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The Miseducation of the American People

2020.09.08 17:07 intellectualgulf The Miseducation of the American People

This is a theory that I will be working on until I figure out if it is accurate or not. Y'know, how the scientific process is supposed to be applied.
The theory is this: The american people have been purposefully miseducated for generations and the bizarre backwards behavior we see today is a symptom of this miseducation.
Whether or not the GOP is mainly responsible, whether this miseducation was politically aligned / inspired seems like a very important question given Nixon's presidency. Nixon is however just a symptom of a disease, and that disease is misinformation. The miseducation of the American people has been occurring for at least 100 years, but most likely has been ongoing since the founding of the country. Unfortunately freedom of speech protects liars, but that is the price we pay for democracy.
Misinformation is a human disease, and is directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of American citizens in 2020 alone. Trump appointed Jared Kushner, an uneducated unqualified man, to lead a Covid Task force AND Jared Kushner showed why being uneducated is dangerous, since he decided Covid would magically hurt democrats more than republicans.
I appear to be picking on Trump, but my theory is that conservatives of every color are to blame for this miseducation. It may be unfair to lay the blame entirely at the feet of conservative political parties, but we still can't have rational public debates about social policy without one of the miseducated screaming about communism.
The average american has no idea what socialism is and only vaguely understands it to be a dangerous / bad system of governance that opposing superpowers have historically claimed to follow. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2019/10/07/in-their-own-words-behind-americans-views-of-socialism-and-capitalism/
The issue with this miseducation is it prevents reasonable logical debate. Of course any purely socialist society would fail, we are not a cooperative species. Any "true" form of government will fail when applied to humans because we are not rational or logical animals. We will inevitably smear everything in sight with feces and claim we have improved the world.
Miseducation has led to the average american not understanding how governments function at a fundamental level. A government is a group of people who agree to a set of rules that direct acceptable or unacceptable behavior, who organize around these rules, and who contribute resources to the group fund to support the enforcement of those rules. Every government is socialist since the definition of socialism is group ownership, and democratic governments are group owned. All guaranteed services provided by a government are group owned, and anyone who claims the government should not provide guaranteed services should leave since that is exactly what our founding fathers wanted it to be.
I'll repeat that last bit for clarity, the founding fathers intentionally created a group owned government to provide guaranteed services which include the postal service. If you consider yourself an "American" and believe that privatizing government services is a good idea, then you do not understand your government. This is reasonable given that many people were taught complete falsehoods before the internet came along, and many more falsehoods have been propagated by charlatans via the internet.
The only reason we can even tell that a massive amount of miseducation occurred in the United States is because so many of those people are very loud. The internet acts as a permanent record, and despite active revisionism / ongoing miseducation it still provides a clear view of the miseducation.
Each administration that chooses to use misinformation as a political weapon / tool ultimately damages the United States of America as they progressively weaken the citizens faith in truth. The american people at this point in time continue to act illogically despite access to the entirety of human knowledge at their fingertips. This is because the average American has been taught that Science and truth are not the same, and that "science" cannot be trusted to protect their interests. It does not matter that "their interests" are given to them by politicians who have shown an inability to think rationally or scientifically, since this is what they have been taught to accept.
This is yet another symptom of the disease, as people who otherwise are not mentally deficient make completely irrational or illogical choices / behaviors, such as continuing to elect corrupt and incompetent leaders.
The claims by Trump and other "modern" conservatives that the United States is or ever was intended to be a Christian nation is common. It really shouldn't be commonly held or believed since it is patently false, but it is another symptom of the disease of misinformation which is propagated in the United States through miseducation.
Data Sources
Statistics in the U.S. Department of Education: Highlights from the Past 120 Years
https://nces.ed.gov/pubs93/93442.pdf
US Department of Education website
https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/role.html
History
The original Department of Education was created in 1867 to collect information on schools and teaching that would help the States establish effective school systems. While the agency's name and location within the Executive Branch have changed over the past 130 years, this early emphasis on getting information on what works in education to teachers and education policymakers continues down to the present day.
The passage of the Second Morrill Act in 1890 gave the then-named Office of Education responsibility for administering support for the original system of land-grant colleges and universities. Vocational education became the next major area of Federal aid to schools, with the 1917 Smith-Hughes Act and the 1946 George-Barden Act focusing on agricultural, industrial, and home economics training for high school students.
World War II led to a significant expansion of Federal support for education. The Lanham Act in 1941 and the Impact Aid laws of 1950 eased the burden on communities affected by the presence of military and other Federal installations by making payments to school districts. And in 1944, the "GI Bill" authorized postsecondary education assistance that would ultimately send nearly 8 million World War II veterans to college.
The Cold War stimulated the first example of comprehensive Federal education legislation, when in 1958 Congress passed the National Defense Education Act (NDEA) in response to the Soviet launch of Sputnik. To help ensure that highly trained individuals would be available to help America compete with the Soviet Union in scientific and technical fields, the NDEA included support for loans to college students, the improvement of science, mathematics, and foreign language instruction in elementary and secondary schools, graduate fellowships, foreign language and area studies, and vocational-technical training.
The anti-poverty and civil rights laws of the 1960s and 1970s brought about a dramatic emergence of the Department's equal access mission. The passage of laws such as Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 which prohibited discrimination based on race, sex, and disability, respectively made civil rights enforcement a fundamental and long-lasting focus of the Department of Education. In 1965, the Elementary and Secondary Education Act launched a comprehensive set of programs, including the Title I program of Federal aid to disadvantaged children to address the problems of poor urban and rural areas. And in that same year, the Higher Education Act authorized assistance for postsecondary education, including financial aid programs for needy college students.
In 1980, Congress established the Department of Education as a Cabinet level agency. Today, ED operates programs that touch on every area and level of education. The Department's elementary and secondary programs annually serve nearly 18,200 school districts and over 50 million students attending roughly 98,000 public schools and 32,000 private schools. Department programs also provide grant, loan, and work-study assistance to more than 12 million postsecondary students.
When formulating this theory I was focused on education in the 1950s and later, but I am revising this theory as I read more. I think the best way to identify the miseducation will be to find writings that survived the shifts in belief. To suggest to one of Jefferson's contemporaries that he wanted religion involved with the United States government would have gotten you laughed out of the room. Jefferson was not above using the law to support his personal beliefs, but we have his letters with Madison where they congratulate one another on keeping religion out of the government [see comments].
I bring this up as it is a MAJOR point for conservatives despite being clearly historically wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Conservatism%20in%20the%20United%20States%20is%20a%20political%20and%20social,%2Dcommunism%2C%20pro%2Dindividualism%2C
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Conservatism%20in%20the%20United%20States%20is%20a%20political%20and%20social,%2Dcommunism%2C%20pro%2Dindividualism%2C
Anyone who ascribes to believes in made up history is one of the miseducated.
20200915 - "The white man's burden"
In February 1899, British novelist and poet Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem entitled “The White Man’s Burden: The United States and The Philippine Islands.”
I had hoped I would need to search further than this to find my evidence, as if all the evidence is laying about like this it is a wonder no one else stumbled upon it before.
"The White Man's Burden" had a clear historical impact, and yet most people alive now would refuse to believe that their great great grandparent, great grandparent, or grandparent was assuredly raised with (and most likely promoted) Racist views.
This poem influenced the future) US President Theodore Roosevelt and Global Policy as a result: http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5478/
We see contemporary refutations by famous figures such as Mark Twain, that were clearly ignored in favor of the "White Man" which in the USA was quite literal. "Predestination" was the idea that White Christians were beloved by God, and that God had made the world for White Men to rule".
This was such a common theme in those days that it was used to literally steal land from the natives. Really good evidence of how effective Christianity is as a moral spine to humanity in my thinking.
Just look at President Jackson's Message to Congress "On Indian Removal", December 6, 1830;
https://www.nps.gov/museum/tmc/MANZ/handouts/Andrew_Jackson_Annual_Message.pdf
We must admit that not just some, but most of our forefather's were selfish and racist people who had been indoctrinated by their conservative peers and teachers.
The reason I bring this poem up specifically is I found it in a Biology textbook. Which Biology textbook? Why only one of the most famous textbooks in history that no one remembers,:
A Civic Biology: Presented in Problems (usually referred to as just Civic Biology) was a biology textbook written by George William Hunter, published in 1914
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/39969/39969-h/39969-h.htm
Excerpt from The Economic Value of Trees. Protection and Regulation of Water Supply. : "It was such a strange, tremendous story, that of the Greek Poseidonia, later the Roman Pæstum. Long ago those adventuring mariners from Greece had seized the fertile plain, which at that time was covered with forests of great oak and watered by two clear and shining rivers. They drove the Italian natives back into the distant hills, for the white man's burden even then included the taking of all the desirable things that were being wasted by incompetent natives, and they brought over colonists—whom the philosophers and moralists at home maligned, no doubt, in the same pleasant fashion of our own day. And the colonists cut down the oaks, and plowed the land, and built cities, and made harbors, and finally dusted their busy hands and busy souls of the grime of labor and wrought splendid temples in honor of the benign gods who had given them the possessions of the Italians and filled them with power and fatness. "
Now one instance doesn't make a pattern, but that is clearly not a scientific phrase. Why is this Biology textbook, which was used to force schools to teach science, reinforcing a view that was known at the time to be wrong? Not only was this view known to be wrong, it had been known for at least 50 years.
At this point we can just accept that Christianity was only used as a way to excuse horrendous treatment of "savages", and that the people alive at the time knew this was true. The supporters of predestination at the time most likely were as vehement in their correctness as the neo-nazis of now.
So what is the picture I am painting? Why is this not in chronological order?
I am going to show you that not only is there a constant theme of "denying reality" among conservatives in the United States, but that it was purposeful refutation of correct information (truth).
Andrew Jackson did not consider the native population as human:
"And is it supposed that the wandering savage has a stronger attachment to his home than the settled, civilized Christian? Is it more afflicting to him to leave the graves of his fathers than it is to our brothers and children? Rightly considered, the policy of the General Government toward the red man is not only liberal, but generous. He is unwilling to submit to the laws of the States and mingle with their population. To save him from this alternative, or perhaps utter annihilation, the General Government kindly offers him a new home, and proposes to pay the whole expense of his removal and settlement."
I can say Jackson didn't consider "the red man" as human, because despite this claim that the "red man" would be relocated and all costs covered Jackson would end up authorizing the murder of many natives during his presidency. Just look at how Jackson promoted an incorrect view of the Native American people being "wandering savages" with no connection to the land.
"Whatabout" arguments bring up questions of "ownership", inheritance of land among Native American Tribes, and wars among the Tribes just before the "settling" of the Americas. My counter to this is the same as always, according to your logic if I want your house I just need to prove you haven't owned it "very long".
This argument is at its core insisting that the ownership of a landmass depends on how recently the government on that landmass changed leadership. The fact is that the native American people had been living on the continent without european intervention for at least 1,000 years:
Just for example he Connestee people, believed to be ancestors of the Cherokee, occupied western North Carolina circa 200 to 600 CE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee
This means that the Cherokee have a stronger claim to England than the English according to the "recent ownership theory", since the people the English descended from didn't arrive in England until after 400 CE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_settlement_of_Britain
Honestly if you or anyone you know believes the ridiculously common conservative argument, please point out to them that based on the concept of ownership being based on time spent in a region, the Native American people owned half the world before the English stood up their bastion of failing Rome in the United Kingdom. Not only that, but the Native American people had a rich history that quite literally was all but destroyed between the 16th and 18th centuries.
Jesus H Christ, if you want to see even more proof that we have simply trained ourselves to be idiotic, look at this History Channel Page that supposedly tells the timeline of the Native American People: https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/native-american-timeline
It starts in 1492! That is not a history of the native american people, that is a history of European interaction with the Native American People's. This is a perfect example of how our common knowledge and supposed history is just conservative garbage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States
Looking at the actual Wikipedia page (look out for conservative Christian revisionism), we see that the people who populated the American continents lived there for millenia. "Western Christian Civilization" wasn't even a shitstain in homo sapiens diaper when the American continents were fully settled and replete with grand empires.
Not only did Jackson purposefully mis-inform the American people about the selfishness and evil of the "Indian Removal Act", but he used similar misinformation tactics to disguise other political agendas:
" Mexico, having for six years carried on against Texas a marauding war only, and that upon the most savage principles, inconsistant with all principles of civilised warfare, and against which all civilised nations which have acknowledged the Independence of Texas ought to unite, and by peaceful means, if it could, put it down, and if this could not be obtained peaceably, then all civillised and christian powers are bound to unite upon christian principle to put an end to this savage and inhuman war. The United States having been the first nation that acknowledged Texian Independence, are we not bound to be the first to boldly step forward to put an end to this savage maurading war. I think so. Texas harassed, and her means of war limitted presents herself to the united states to be annexed to, and protected by the United States. There being no embodied army marching against Texas for reconquest, great Britain trying to obtain the Liberation of the slaves in Texas for the avowed purpose of coercing the south and west into this measure by destroying the vallue of this property and opening a way for our slaves to run away to Texas, is [it] not time for the south and west to take the alarm, and as Texas has presented herself for voluntary annexation, which at once shuts the door against this impending evil, and secures Neworleans in case of a war with England, can it be, could it be, that any one could seriously suppose that the whole south and west would not unite upon this important subject, and with one voice cry out annexation. "
"I am very feeble, but excited by the subject, mortified at Mr. V.B. letter and Col. Bentons, for their is no evidence of ever the time being more propitious than the present, the necessitous situation of Texas, the prospects of the encouragement posponement will give to Mexico, with the secrete aid of great Britain and the consequences, makes my tears flow with regret. Texas may feel herself insulted and neglected by the refusal of the U. States and make a treaty with great Britain ruinous to the south west and to the safety of the Union, when we will have to fight both great Britain and mexico—on such an event what curses must fall upon all who refused to receive Texas."
It's almost like Andrew Jackson was a Racist, who while opposed / refuted by some of his contemporaries, the average American clearly supported Predestination.
It is no wonder that with this amount misinformation use already present by the 7th President we see a President today who does nothing but lie. Since conservatives value Opinion over Truth we can no longer trust anything that they claim, and we shouldn't have been letting these views infect out people for this long to begin with.

Special Interest Groups Damaged our Government:

This should be a perfectly reasonable debate with no partisanship or issues of religion / emotion (/s).
This is going to be a shit show, just be prepared.
Academics have almost universally responded poorly to this hypothesis, that the American People have been Miseducated for Generations.
It is quite possible that the misinformation campaigns which turned our nation into an "Idiocracy" were not exclusive to education centers.
Searching through the NY Times you can find many examples of Christian special interest groups attacking politicians for failing to align with their goals:
1832 Wig Paper lauding the destruction of Irish Culture- Constitutional Whig. [volume], September 28, 1824
1841 Indiana State sentinel. [volume], October 19, 1841: 1841 anti-irish sentiment

1840 - Mr. Van Buren has shown he is in favor of Free Negroes and Slaves to swear in Court against WHITE MEN! (emphasis theirs) The Hawk-eye and Iowa patriot., September 10, 1840
1842 article noting the South's prediliction for lynching, and arguing that good christians are not racist
1856 - christian editor taken to court for printing abolitionist sentiments in Va
1907 -white people are great even when they oppress their dark skinned brothers
1919 - princeton journal reference to "Irish need not apply". If you are of Irish heritage, your ancestors were called "white The Princeton union. [volume], December 04, 1919, Page 4
1949 - A congressman from Ohio tells other Congressmen he had never seen any segregation: https://history.house.gov/People/Detail/15130?ret=True
2005 - The United States is still fighting idiots pushing their religion in tax funded schools: https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/20/science/sciencespecial2/judge-bars-intelligent-design-from-pa-classes.html

Textbooks which Promoted Conservative Christian Political Goals

1842 - The Religious instruction of the Negroes in the United States
ORIGIN on THE AMERICAN INDIANS. Hence it seems, at first glance, almost impossible that it should have been reached, in an age when ships Were small‘ and frail, when the mariner’s compass was unknown and the sailor dared not trust himself out of sight of land. This led men to suppose that the inhabitants of America did not descend from Adam and Eve, but from a race previously created. Such a theory’ is plainly contrary to the Bible record, nor is it needed to account for the settlement of America. .8. Later discoveries have brought to light a fact unknown to geographers three hundred years ago, that America wi- dens rapidly in the north, and there juts out into the ocean till it comes within thirty-six ‘miles of Asia. , As a current sets -towards the American shore, the passage thither can be readily made even in rude vessels. Boats may have been driven over by stress of weather, and the continent thus have been discovered without design. But there was a still‘ easier means of communication. In severe seasons, ,Behring’s Strait is frozen over. , ‘Many varieties of animals have passed on the ice from one continent to the other; and the first occupants of America, led by curiosity, or driven by violence,- may have reached the new world in the same manner. 9. At what time this event took place, we are not informed. History makes no mention of it. It is probable that it occurred at an early date, not many centuries after the dispersion at Babel and the consequent emigration from the plain of Shi’nar.
1875 Analysis of Civil Government
There is little need of comment "on this clause‘‘.‘‘ No “man can Well doubt the propriety of placing a President of the" United States’ under the most solemn obligations to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. It is "a suitable ‘pledge of his fidelity and responsibility to his 'country', and creates upon his conscience a deep ‘sense duty, by an appeal at once, in the presence of God and man, to the most sacred and solemn sanctions Which can operate upon the human mind
Oath. A solemn aflirmation or declaration, before a competent tribunal or ofiieer, to tell the truth, appealing to God for the truth of what is asserted.
1875 - Politics for young adults
TO PARENTS AND TEACHERS. to be a good citizen of the United States one ought to be imbued with the spirit of Christianity, and to believe in and act upon the teachings of Jesus. He condemned self-seeking, covetousness, hypocrisy, class distinctions, envy, malice, undue and ignoble ambition
Old textbooks:
ATTITUDES REVEALED IN SUBJECT MATTER Since geography textbooks dealt extensively with people and customs, the opportunity was great for authors to reveal their attitudes regarding the various peoples and their ways of living. In many geographies, especially in the earlier ones, the content revealed that the attitudes of the authors were often biased. Religious Attitudes. The earliest geographies were written when our country was still dominantly Protestant and the academic leaders were either trained as ministers or at least deeply religious. J edidiah Morse and Elijah Parish were both Congregational ministers. Not even all Protestant groups were equally respected. For example, in the first American written geography, Morse in 1784 referred to the Presbyterians and Lutherans as “numerous and respectable.” Parish, in enumerating the religious groups, began with small letters the words Baptists, Methodists, Quakers, and Catholics, but began with capital letters Presbyterian, Congregationalists, and Lutherans. ‘ Many of the early books particularly contained unfavorable comments about other religions than Protestants. Morse in his 1790 edition referred to Roman Catholicism in Spain as “of most bigoted, superstitious, and tyrannical character.” Dwight (1806), Parish (1810), and Adams (1818) used the term “Pop- ery” in referring to Roman Catholicism. Davies (1805) claimed that the priests in Ireland ruled with “blind superstition and ignorance.” Many other early geographies contained similar statements. Later several geography textbooks were written by Catholic
GEOGRAPHIES Q13 authors which were equally biased against Protestantism. Among these were texts by Pinnock (1853) and Sadlier (1880). The latter, in referring to religious conditions in Ireland, said: England abandoned the Catholic faith in the 16th century, and to this country belongs the ignoble distinction of having oppressed and persecuted the Irish nation with a barbarity unparalleled in the history of man’s inhumanity to man. Most Protestant authors referred to the Protestants in Euro- pean countries with respect. Parish (1810) said, “The Scotch clergy are men of learning and piety.” Woodbridge (1835) said, in referring to the Scots, “They are remarkable for knowledge and morality, produced by their numerous schools, and their at- tention to public worship.” In referring to non-Christian religions, likewise, uncompli- mentary statements were often made. A number of authors re- ferred to Mahomet as an “imposter.” Morse (1800) wrote: “In a word, the contagion spread over Arabia, Syria, Egypt, and Persia; Mahomet, from a deceitful hypocrite, became the most powerful monarch in his time.” Warren in 1872 referred to Mohammed as a “false prophet.” Uncomplimentary statements were also made about the religions in Japan and India. Reform Attitudes. The teaching of religion and morality was really the chief aim of education in early American schools. This aim was even dominant. in geography textbooks. Thus many forms of behavior which the authors considered immoral were severely condemned. Alcohol. Morse (1790) believed “in proportion as the use of beer increases, in the same proportion will the use of spiritous liquors decrease. This will be a happy exchange.” Parish (1810) condemned the “numerous Taverns,” and “grogshops.” Several condemned the sale of liquors to Indians.
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2020.08.27 14:47 trifletruffles Clifford "Clifton" Walker-found murdered in his car on February 29, 1964 in Woodville, Mississippi-Closed Case under the Civil Rights Division Emmett Till Act

On February 29, 1964, in Woodville, Mississippi, 37 year old Clifford “Clifton” Walker was "killed by a close range shotgun blast to the head." Clifton was killed on his way home from a local bar which he visited after his work shift ended at the International Paper Company in Natchez, Mississippi. [Name redacted in the closing memorandum] was the last person to see Clifton alive; the man worked with Clifton and carpooled with him back to Woodville where he was dropped off at his at approximately 11:40 p.m. Clifton's body was was found the following afternoon in his car "which had been heavily damaged by shotgun blasts."
Clifton's body was "found" (quotation mark used similarly in the closing memorandum) in his car by Prentiss Mathis who flagged down a local patrolman, R. W. Palmertree. Patrolman Palmertree immediately notified Sheriff Charles T. Netterville of Wilkenson County, Mississippi, and an inquiry into the murder began. After initially processing the crime scene, Sheriff Neterville contacted the Mississippi Highway Patrol for assistance. Patrol investigators traveled to Woodville in February and March of 1964 to talk with witnesses and to review evidence. The last known MHP report from March of 1964 "identifies three prime suspects – Carl Cavin, Prentiss Mathiss and Red Metcalf – in the murder." The FBI, noted in its later investigation, that there is little available evidence linking Carl and Red to the murder. Aside from the fact that Prentiss found Clifton's body, the only other evidence linking Prentiss to the murder comes from investigators noting that Mathiss was “uncooperative and belligerent” throughout his interview with the highway patrol investigators, and that he had “an extreme dislike for Negros.” The FBI became involved in the matter when, on February 29, 1964, they received a report that Clifton had been shot and killed in Mississippi. The FBI monitored the investigation and ultimately closed its case in the winter of 1964. Clifton’s murder remains unsolved.
1964 Mississippi Highway Patrol (MHP) Investigation:
MHP began its investigation into Clifton's murder by interviewing Patrolman Palmertree, who was the first law enforcement officer to respond to the crime scene. Patrol Palmertree reported that Prentiss flagged him down at approximately 1 p.m. on February 29, 1964, and told him that there was a “dead man” in a car on Poor House Road, north of Woodville. When Patrolman Palmertree arrived at the scene, he noticed that Clifton's body was slumped to the right of the driver’s seat with his feet under the floor board. Patrolman Palmertree stated that "all of the windows of the vehicle were shot out, and that several shots had been fired into the body,” but could not advise how many." Patrolman Palmertree further noted that shotgun shells and wadding were found in Clifton's vehicle, which "remained in high gear despite the fact that the engine was off, and that the keys were stuck in the dash board compartment lock with the compartment swinging open." Inside the compartment was "a .38 caliber Smith and Wesson four-inch barrel, chrome-plated firearm."
MHP next spoke with Sheriff Netterville who surmised Clifton had been dead approximately twelve to fourteen hours when Patrolman Palmertree arrived on scene. Sheriff Netterville also reported that Clifton's wallet with $148.00 in cash was recovered from the scene.
At approximately 7:30 p.m. on February 29, 1964, MHP investigators were able to view Clifton's body noting that "it appeared that a full load of buck shot entered just under the left ear appearing to be fired at a very close range.” Another load "appeared to have entered Walker’s chin and mouth on the right side tearing away parts of the mouth, chin and neck."
MHP focused its investigation on trying to find a motive for the killings; accordingly, MHP interviewed people who worked with or knew Clifton in an effort to develop leads. Many of Clifton's co-workers reported that although the International Paper Company had recently integrated its facilities, there was no known conflict between Clifton and any white workers. Many of Clifton's co-workers "generally had a favorable opinion of his character and could not provide a motive for the killing."
MHP next interviewed [name redacted in the closing memorandum] who was the last known person to see Clifton alive. [Name redacted] advised that he was very close to Clifton, and that "if [Clifton] had trouble with anyone, he would have known about it." [Name redacted] indicated that on the night of Clifton's murder, he rode home with Clifton to the “car pool,” which was approximately one mile north of Poor House Road. The “car pool” refers to "a place where people would drop off their vehicles before carpooling with one another to work." From there, [Name redacted] followed Clifton down Highway 61 until Clifton's vehicle turned onto Poor House Road. [Name redacted] did not know who killed Clifton.
As the MHP investigation continued, investigators learned of rumors that Clifton "had been talking to white women, and that some white men took offense to this." It appears that MHP "attempted to substantiate these rumors, but the remnants of their case file show a disjointed investigation that failed to produce enough evidence to charge anyone in the murder." MHP "seemed particularly interested" in learning more about Clifton's interactions with white men and women at Nettles Truck Stop on Highway 61, six miles north of Woodville. One former employee, a white 40-year old woman named Geraldine Vines, reported that in September or October of 1963, Clifton commented to her “I sho does likes you,”; Geraldine reported the comment to Mildred Nettles who was the wife of the owner of the truck stop, Jennings B. Nettles. Jennings told Clifton to “get up and leave and to never darken the door of that place of business [again].”
Geraldine also reported that she had heard from Mildred “a few years back” that Clifton had tried to run Mildred into a ditch on Poor House Road. MHP contacted Mildred who advised that in 1956 or 1957, she was taking one of her employees home when Clifton's car almost ran her into a ditch on Poor House Road. Mildred reported that she knew it was Clifton's car vehicle because her employee remarked “there goes that damn smart alec negro Walker.” Immediately afterwards, Mildred drove to the truck stop and told her husband about her encounter with Clifton. Jennings and Mildred drove back to Poor House Road to look for Clifton, but by the time they arrived he was gone. When MHP interviewed Jennings, he said that Clifton was a “good negro with whom he had no complaints." The investigation files at the time noted that while this incident could have provided Jennings with a “motive to harm" Clifton, MHP did not uncover any evidence linking him to Clifton's murder. However, it appears that no efforts were made by MHP to account for Jennings' whereabouts on the night of the murder.
MHP further inquired about other alleged “inappropriate interactions" Clifton may have had with white women. Sheriff Netterville notified MHP that he had information that [Name redacted in the closing memorandum] was "overheard on the telephone trying to get Doris Dover to accompany her on a negro date." MHP followed up on this lead by briefly interviewing David Vines and a woman whose name was redacted in the memorandum. David recalled that on the day before his murder, Clifton showed up at Rita Lee Dover’s home where he was invited to come inside. MHP recorded no further information from David, and his relationship to Rita is not specified in the investigative reports. MHP also interviewed Rita and her father noting that they “failed to find that they were connected in anyway,” to Clifton's murder. [Name redacted who was overheard on the telephone] was interviewed, but MHP concluded that she was not connected in any way with the case.
The information received by MHP relating to Clifton's "interactions with white women in Wilkenson County was never fully developed and never produced a viable suspect in the murder." The only “suspects identified in MHP’s report were Carl Cavin, Prentiss Mathis and Red Metcalf." The only mention of Carl and Red in the 32 page report from MHP is a single paragraph that states that [name redacted] was with Carl on the night of Clifton's murder at approximately 1 a.m. and “appeared to be extremely nervous and drinking fairly heavily.” [Name redacted] further reported that Carl had been in the company of Red, at around 10:30 p.m. that evening and was seen “within one mile of the murder scene.” Despite listing the three men as suspects, MHP never interviewed Carl or Red, and there was no other information contained in their report linking Carl and Metcalf to the murder. MHP closed its investigation without making any arrests.
1964 FBI Investigation:
After learning of Clifton's death, the FBI opened a case to provide limited assistance to the Sheriff’s Office and MHP. The FBI monitored and tracked the information they received from MHP before ultimately closing the case when no "prosecutable suspects were identified."
2009 FBI Investigation
In 2009, the FBI initiated a review of the circumstances surrounding Walker’s death, pursuant to the Department of Justice’s “Cold Case” initiative and the “Emmett Till Unsolved Civil Rights Crime Act of 2007,” which charges the Department of Justice to investigate “violations of criminal civil rights statutes . . . result[ing] in death” that “occurred not later than December 31, 1969.” The FBI reviewed the original 1964 FBI case file and conducted research to determine whether any of the “subjects identified by MHP or other relevant individuals were still alive." Prentiss, Red, and Carl were determined to be deceased along with the other witnesses noted in the preceding paragraphs.
On September 27, 2010, the FBI contacted [name redacted] who indicated that he had information regarding Clifton's murder. [Name redacted] recalled that he observed G.B. Sproles sawing off the barrel off a shotgun. G.B. had been "flagged earlier in the [1964] investigation as someone who [Clifton] may have had contact with" but not further information was provided. [Name redacted] asked him why he was doing so to which Sproles responded that "he had something to do, and then shooed [Name redacted] away. When [Name redacted] heard about Clifton's murder a few days later, he thought G.B. was probably involved. [Name redacted] later "heard talk between the adults" that Clifton had been killed because "he was going with a white woman." He also heard that the gun used to kill Clifton was thrown off the Mississippi River bridge in Natchez. [Name redacted] further reported that G.B. was “as sorry as the day was long,” but did not elaborate further on this remark. [Name redacted] stated that he would not be surprised if G.B. was involved in the murder. G.B. died in 1996.
On February 14, 2013, the FBI located [Name redacted] and interviewed her about Clifton's murder. [Name redacted] was similarly referenced in MHP’s 1964 report as an individual who had information regarding Clifton but no information was gathered as she had stated " I know too much about this mess and I aint gonna get involved.” [Name Redacted] told agents that on the night of Clifton's death she was in Louisiana with her boyfriend and did not learn of the shooting until she arrived back in Centerville, Mississippi the following day. Upon returning, she learned that law enforcement was looking for her because they believed she had information about Clifton's death. [Name redacted] reported that she left Centerville because she did not want to get involved with the investigation even though she had no knowledge of who killed Walker. [Name Redacted] further noted that she was interviewed in Louisiana shortly after Clifton's murder by local investigators. She explained to the investigators that she did not know who killed Clifton.
Beginning in the fall of 2010, the FBI was in contact with Ben Greenberg, a freelance journalist who was working on gathering information regarding the Clifton and other civil rights era victims. From the fall of 2010 through the summer of 2011, Ben "repeatedly sought to exchange information he had regarding [Clifton's] murder for access to un-redacted FBI information." Ben "claimed to have information that would be valuable to the FBI’s investigation;" however, he was advised that he would not be able to “trade information" for access to un-redacted FBI files. In July 2011, Mark J. Kappelhoff, of the U.S. Department of Justice, sent a letter to Ben requesting any information that he had related to Clifton's murder. Ben never responded to the request, and in July of 2012, he published an article in the Clarion Ledger detailing his investigative efforts. No additional leads were identified in Ben's article.
The Department of Justice closed Clifton's case after noting that that "this matter does not constitute a prosecutable violation of the federal criminal civil rights statutes" as "there are no known surviving eyewitnesses and there is no available physical evidence to review....as such, there is no reasonable possibility that further investigation will lead to a prosecutable case." The Department of Justice also noted that "continued investigation would not lead to a viable prosecution of a living suspect."
Ben Greenberg's investigation in the Clarion Ledger:
The preceding paragraphs relay the information provided in the FBI's closing memorandum. I found Ben's Clarion Ledger article and it noted that Clifton's daughter, Catherine Walker Jones, received a letter from the Justice Department that the case had been closed. However, she was surprised since agents investigating the case had never spoken to anyone in her family. Catherine opined she has been "disappointed in the manner in which promises are made by the Justice Department to families that have not gotten closure for the death of their loved ones....it's like you make it sound real good with the Cold Case Initiative, but there was no substance to it, none whatsoever." She further remarks "no one did any time in jail for killing a human being, a father, a husband, an American citizen, a veteran...you have people going to jail for killing dogs today...and there he was, a human being."
In contrast to the FBI's contention that no additional leads were provided in the article, Ben's investigation reveals that a mob ambushed Clifton Earl Walker Sr. on Poor House Road; this was believed to be "the first slaying by Mississippi's homegrown White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan." It appears FBI was aware of the news article but it is unclear if they followed up on the leads noted within. Per Ben's investigation, Clifton was driving home when the mob stopped his car on the dirt road off U.S. 61 near Woodville, Mississippi. The men surrounded Clifton and shot him repeatedly in the face. In the hours that followed, "the 37-year-old World War II veteran bled to death." The International Paper Plant was known as a "hotbed for Ku Klux Klan recruitment." The White Knights of the KKK are believed to have been responsible for at least 10 killings including the 1964 killings of James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner.
After Clifton's body was found, three of Clifton's brothers-in-laws drove 55 miles south to Baton Rouge to see Ronnie Moore, who was Louisiana field secretary for the Council on Racial Equality. According to FBI documents, the three men talked to Ronnie, and he called and told the bureau that Clifton "had been shot down in Mississippi and that nothing had been done about it by local authorities." On March 1, 1964, FBI agents reported meeting with Ronnie and the three men. FBI Headquarters responded the next day with an order to "contact the Sheriff to ascertain if he is conducting any investigation of this matter and obtain any details available" and to send the bureau copies of any local newspaper coverage of the murder. The FBI opened the case, closed it a few months later, then briefly reopened it before moving on without resolution in December 1964, at which point MPH also closed the investigation.
The 2009 FBI investigation reviewed the 1964 files of both the MPH and FBI and determined there were no viable suspects. Accordingly, Clifton's murder remains unsolved.
Clifford "Clifton" Walker (1927-1964):
Born in 1927, Clifton was the last of nine children. Despite being the youngest, "his siblings respected him." According to his daughter, Catherine, when her father "saw [his siblings] arguing with their wives, he would pull his brothers on the side and tell them you don't talk to your wife that way...he was such a gentleman." His family called him "Man," and the nickname stuck. He met Ruby C. Phipps while walking home from Sunday school and married her two years later. He joined the army during World War II. Catherine and his other daughter Shirley recalled their father made sure "the family never went without" saying "we didn't have to cook on the wood stove...Daddy got a gas stove and a washing machine" remarking "he invested well, and [their mother] maintained their money well." Similarly, Shirley highlighted how her parents worked well "together as a unit...taking care of their children, teaching them what they needed to know to live in this world." In the 1950s, Clifton served in the army again during the Korean War. However, a knee injury sent him back home, and he started working at the nearby International Paper plant about 30 miles north of Woodville in southwest Mississippi.
In the days following the funeral, Ruby, "had a breakdown that frightened her children" with Catherine recalling "when Mama didn't recognize her children, I knew we were in trouble." Ruby recovered from the breakdown, but she had to take medication to sleep each night until her death in 1992 at the age of 65. Clifton's son, Cliff Jr., was 10 at the time of the slaying; Catherine opines Cliff Jr. "didn't realize or know Daddy...he was the kind of man a son really should have known."
Catherine says she has managed to survive saying "he's the sole reason that I'm alive today because his memory meant more to me than I meant to myself at one period." Overwhelmed with depression at times, she felt "it was just easier to die than live with the hurt and the agony of knowing that someone you loved more than the man you prayed to was gone...and it was a bitter, bitter struggle actually dealing with God because He could have prevented this and He didn't." Nevertheless, she "continues to believe justice is possible" opining "no justice has ever happened in dealing with my father, and if it doesn't happen during my time, I'm afraid it's not ever gonna happen."
Links:
https://www.justice.gov/crt/case-document/clifford-clifton-walker
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/journeytojustice/2014/08/29/kkk-killing-clifton-walker-unpunished/14814923/
I came across the Department of Justice’s cold case initiative while reading an article discussing journalists’ efforts to install a billboard on an Arkansas highway aimed at solving the 1954 lynching of Isadore Banks. The Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice launched a website (linked above) to make information about the department’s investigation of cold cases from the Civil Rights Era more accessible to the public. Over the years, the Department “has assisted in prosecuting Edgar Ray Killen in 2005, making him the eighth defendant convicted for the 1964 murders of three civil rights workers in Philadelphia, Mississippi (the "Mississippi Burning" case); secured life sentences in 2003 against the perpetrators of the 1963 Sixteenth Street Baptist Church bombing in Birmingham, Alabama; and secured a federal conviction and life sentence of James Ford Seale for the kidnapping and murder of two teenagers in Franklin County, Mississippi in 1964.” Congress recognized the importance of these federal efforts when it enacted the Emmett Till Unsolved Civil Rights Crime Act in 2008.
Unfortunately, in many cases “legal and evidentiary barriers prevent the Department from moving forward with prosecution." In each case that is not prosecutable, the Department of Justice wrote a closing memo explaining the investigative steps taken and the basis for their conclusion. To date, the Department of Justice has uploaded 115 closing memos. I hope to be able to post on all of the closed cases as I share in the belief with the Department of Justice that “these stories should be told [as] there is value in a public reckoning with the history of racial violence and the complicity of government officials.”
Other posts from the Department of Justice's Cold Case Initiative:
  1. Isadore Banks-unsolved murder in Marion, Arkansas-June 1954
https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/h03esj/isadore_bankslynched_in_marion_arkansas_on_june_8/
  1. Willie Joe Sanford-unsolved murder in Hawkinsville, Georgia-March 1957
https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/h9v61n/willie_joe_sanfordfound_murdered_nea
  1. Ann Thomas-unsolved murder in San Antonio, Texas-April 1969
https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/hdtv4b/ann_thomasfound_murdered_in_san_antonio_texas_on/
  1. Thad Christian-murdered on August 30, 1965 in Central City, Alabama
    https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/i4fetd/thad_christianmurdered_on_august_30_1965_in/
  2. Silas Caston-killed on March 1, 1964 by a Hinds County Sheriff’s Office Deputy in Jackson, Mississippi
https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/idx701/silas_castonkilled_on_march_1_1964_by_a_hinds/
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2020.07.03 23:48 Holesome_chungus NEW! List of banned subreddits part 2

Updated list of all known banned subreddits sorted by reason and alphabetically part 2 (unmoderated and ban evasion). Current as of July 3, 2020 5:32 PM EDT
This is a second thread containing subs banned for ban evasion or for being unmoderated, as Reddit limits you to 40000 characters per post.
 
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2020.06.24 23:40 NamNguyen56 PROCEDURE AND CHALLENGE FOR President TRUMP

PROCEDURE AND CHALLENGE FOR President TRUMP


PROCEDURE AND CHALLENGE FOR President TRUMP
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America was in turmoil caused by people going on the streets, protesting, rioting, and smashing. They were pulled by the Radical Democrats, the Black Lives Matter, the Antifa Terrorists, after the death of the black George Floyd, who was taken by a white police officer of the city of Minneapolis (Minnesota), named Derek Chauvin, used knees crushed to death.
The death of a black man at the hands of white police is something people often see happen in the US states. However, because it was less than 5 months before the presidential election, that ordinary thing suddenly became abnormal, great, and the rabid crowd of anti-incumbents against President Trump took advantage of him to tear up. The fault of Chauvin policeman is so cruel, heartless, with blood born to kill people, what is wrong with pulling Mr. Trump out, accusing him of racism, like a female leader in Europe, some officials Christian identity in the Vatican and the United States, a lot of retired or disgraced US generals, two former presidents ... did, ungainly, without cause, if they did not want to use heavier, mean words, stupid.
Mr. Trump is a president who is unlike any president in the 300-year history of building the United States: not compromising with any power in the world as well as in the United States, and the only president who dares to publicly. declared war on the press and the media, which all previous presidents were trembling with, he called them "Fake News", "enemies of the people".
Recently, it was reported that most of the American newspapers were bought out by the Chinese Communist Party, with the scheme to destroy Mr. Trump. As such, he swore at these journalists for a reason. Therefore, he became a thorn in the eyes of evildoers, making them, from Joe Bi Den to Nancy Pest, want to spit at any cost, including kneeling, collapsed, in front of a coffin of a name. Crime.
Not to mention, I realize that recently, every day, in the stack of emails, in addition to the familiar "journalists" of An Nam ‒ which NLGO had once had the honor of touching the neck (such as Giao Chi Vu Van Loc, Nguyen Quoc Khai) - appeared strange authors (perhaps fake names) of anti-Trump articles (in Vietnamese), or at least, very negative about him, causing me to wonder if they were Annam This chew has been bought out by the China Communist Party and the American K-Rats Party?
1►. Merkel, the woman walked in four rows:
For a few days now, it has been reported that President Trump has ordered the withdrawal of 9,500 US troops from Germany (only 25,000) to take to Poland, on the pretext of reorganizing US forces abroad, prompting Ms. Thu General Merkel jumped, howling it was "not acceptable"! Oh that is, do not accept, what can he do? The German Foreign Minister was also worried, confused, and vowed to discuss the matter with the United States. Because, he said, "if the United States withdraws its troops from Germany, its security will be seriously threatened, bringing danger to the US"! Nonsense and unfounded intimidation: in the two world wars, only the Americans brought troops across the Atlantic to save Europe, but why not?
President Trump's decision is based on the reasons that children can guess, let alone the readers in the head have a pile of grit: Mrs. Merkel, this re-educated Eastern German, is very clever, flipping, just like any Which Viet Cong guy, playing a game with the United States, is more true of Mr. Trump. She wears three or four face masks at once, or roughly, swings to three or four strings,
(● 1) plays with the "enemy" of Russia by buying its petroleum through a pipeline. oil from Russia to Germany, worth $ 9 billion, instead of buying from the US "allies",
(● 2) playing with China: not speaking out against China about the Wuhan pandemic, and continuing to do business, to join them,
(● 3) not pay NATO a royalty as promised to Mr. Trump,
(● 4) refused President Trump's invitation not to go to the US for the G7 conference, in late June, on the pretext of dealing with Covid 19 virus, causing him to move to September, and, to embarrass her, invited four new members, including Russia, Australia, India and South Korea, and
(● 5) very important reason for Mr. Trump to be so sensitive and easily offended: she is itchy, and her mouth is from Germany came to the United States, attacked Mr. Trump for violent protests in the United States, but forgot about the terrorist attacks and the murder of people, by the ISIS, which she allowed her to enter and enter Germany in previous years.
With the exception of Merkel, no head of state publicly voiced criticism of Mr. Trump, absurdly, cheaply, although in their country there were also cases of street protests against racial discrimination. In Australia, for example, people oppose aboriginal treatment. In France, according to author Han Giang Tran Le Tuyen, in France (cf. article on June 13, 2020, published in http://xn--hn-vit-mk8bqd.co.uk/ “Looking at the conversations protests in the US, remember the 'protests' in the summer, 1966, in Da Nang ”):
[...] "The Negroes dragged the dead body of Adama Traoré, also a criminal. Because Adama Traoré is not a victim of police violence. In the case of Adama Traoré, a young black man who died after being detained four years ago, was pushed up to become ‛a symbol of police violence in France ', Le Point said in the investigation. : On 07/19/2016 Gendarmerie Gendarmerie, questioning papers Bagui Traoré, is Adama's brother, has committed crimes many times, being sought for extortion. Adama, who was next to him, ran away. Chased, then arrested, then rescued by a fellow accomplice, Adama fled into a citizen's house but was eventually discovered, handcuffed to a car. On the way to the headquarters of the gendarmerie, he lost consciousness, the emergency medical arrived late because he lost, Adama died. Specialists concluded that there was no sign of violence.
The young man, who is notorious for being addicted to alcohol and drugs, was sued for raping a former prisoner. The Adama Traoré family did not accept the results of the doctors, demanding multiple re-examination. Her sister Assa Traoré repeatedly appeared on many television stations accusing the police, saying that Adama fled because he forgot to bring papers. In fact, the Gendarmerie found on Adama Traoré a package of marijuana and 1,330 euros in cash, which was returned to the family. This was the case, but the blacks established the so-called 'Adama Traoré Committee', to 'sympathize with' the death of George Floyd. This means that these people want the deaths of two criminals American and French are both "heroes". "
2►. Mad Dog Mattis and disgraced generals:
This General Mattis, nicknamed "Chaos" (based on a work of Mr. Call Sign Chaos), or "Mad Dog", was chosen by President Trump, when he took office, to be Secretary of Defense. After two years, because of a disagreement with Trump over the withdrawal of troops from Syria, he resigned and set a date for his departure, two months later. Being immediately taken away by Mr. Trump, without giving any more days, means that Mattis was dismissed, not resigned.
In the George Floyd case, Mattis made a statement in The Atlantic, accusing his former boss of causing racial segregation and abusing the army to suppress the protests. Shortly thereafter, three other former generals, all white, including John Kelly (former Head of Staff, White House Chief of Staff, White House, were fired), also voiced their voices behind Mad Dog, defending Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement, attacking President Trump to dock on two similar "crimes". There was also former General David Petraeus, who had a history of scandal with cats and cats, was dismissed from the Jars by the Jars as commander of the Afghanistan front, and was denied by President Trump to be Secretary of State. occasion of release criticism.
In particular, the former General Colin Powell, 83, (a Fake Republican, meaning Wei Republican, specialized in counter-party critics, exactly like the dishonest senator, called the Republic, Mitt Romney), of Jamaican, Foreign Minister of the Bush era, this man, after being re-elected, did not understand why, sent home to chase his wife chicken, silenced for a long time. I remember my name, my face, and NLGO. Do not know if there is any resentment for Mr. Trump (heard in 2016, also about to run for president under the umbrella of CH, but aiming not to eat, withdraw very soon), but he was very bitter to him. , in the G. Floyd case. Trump condemned everything, and declared to CNN: "I will vote for Joe Bi Den", although the "bi" of the 78-year-old old man, said before and after, specializes in kissing the necks of women, enemies of refugees South Vietnam, not "black" at all!Caused President Trump to fan right away, via a sarcastic twitter (roughly, not verbatim): “Is Powell the father who declared at the United Nations headquarters to tell the world that Saddam Hussein had an arsenal? serial killer chemistry in Iraq, right? ”
Another translated general, Mark Milley, the Joint Chief of Staff (appointed by President Trump) brought the crew, accompanied the Trump delegation (including Defense Secretary Esper) on foot to Lafayette Square, to visit St John's Church, DC, read the reaction of the Fake News, criticized him for obeying Mr. Trump's order for the army to stop the violent protests, so scared, just like the minister Esper, want to spread the pants. , then voiced, publicly "regret accidentally missed Mr. Trump."
Regarding the use of the army to suppress violent protests, according to Dr. Nguyen Tien Hung, in an article read by NLGO this morning of June 14, titled "I've seen 10 times the US president sends troops to the streets", to the BBC from Virginia, USA, in which the author asserts that it is not uncommon for presidents to send troops to quell rebellion. He wrote: "[...] By July 28, 1932 there was real violence. General Douglas MacArthur under President Herbert Hoover's orders sent troops from Fort Meyer in Arlington, Virginia, near our home, across the bridge on the Potomac River to Washington. His aide, Lt. Gen. Dwight Eisenhower (later President) advised MacArthur not to go to the street and should only appoint a senior officer to do this. MacArthur did not listen, and even instructed Eisenhower to follow him immediately.The officer leading the army was General George Patton, followed by five tanks with 300 helmeted men walking on the streets of Washington, using smoke grenades to clear the protest. "So all three famous American generals, Mac Arthur, Eisenhower and Patton, and tanks marched on the streets of the capital to quell violence."
3►. Cardinal Kevin Joseph Farrell and the black crows anti-Trumpist: Last
week, during an online ceremony at the Vatican, Farrell, of Irish descent, who served in Catholic communities in Washington and Texas, is now a Cardinal. The minister and chancellor (?) Of the Roman Church (camerlingue, tasked with managing Vatican properties and convening a new papal congress, when the current pope died). In June 2019, Farrell confessed to having received $ 29,000 from Bishop Michael Bransfield, West Virginia, to repair his room. Bransfield was charged, investigated, and charged with sexual harassment of children, adults, and abuse of public funds, and was stripped of his title.
In a lecture from Rome, Farrell pointed to America in denouncing Mr. Trump, without mentioning his name, accusing him of creating injustice and racial injustice. If Pope Francis did not nod, he said Farrell would not dare to speak. In the days of Obozo and previous Democratic presidents, when the US Supreme Court allowed abortion and favored same-sex marriage, which were contrary to the doctrine, they were strangely silent, just staring at Trump's unfinished border wall, then, to accuse him of all sorts of crimes, while the citadelle wall surrounding the Vatican remains intact. True morality?
And yet, the Catholic DC Archbishop of North America, Wilton Daniel Gregory, also criticized Trump's visit to the Basilica of St. John-Paul II, on June 2, as an unacceptable abuse. received, because he did not respect the equality between people ("I find it baffling and reprehensible that any Catholic facility would allow itself to be so egregiously misused and manipulated in a fashion that violates our religious principles , which call us to defend the rights of all people even those with whom we might disagree ”). Gregory is a black man, people can understand his frustration (called VC pressing). But where did Mr. Trump discriminate against blacks? To make up for the recklessness, Gregory pleaded not to be warned by Trump (cf. Crux). But the Crux newspaper also said they had evidence,that a week earlier, President Trump had sent an invitation to Archbishop Gregory, to the cathedral, where TT would announce the "religious equality" law, but was rejected by the archbishop.
And Archbishop Mariann Budde of Episcopal Saint John's Church, also in Washington DC, after President Trump's visit, shouted at the village, like a careless kiss from Sleepy Joe: "I am outraged" (angry at being touched Pham).
And yet, I had just finished reading a story about an An Nam Mit Diet, meaning yellow skin, named Pham Huu Tam, priest and tu-beep, also went to a church in the diocese of Galveston, TX, along with the crowd of white and black people (even standing in front of the cathedral, taking a picture with a huge black aunt), to attend the Mass commemorating the death of "saint" George Floyd. NLGO wants to ask this LM, if he ever thought about it, let alone talk to the memorial church, even for just a minute, the victims of the victims in the country, for many years were VC killed, robbed, robbed , or are colleagues who fight against them, are they confined like Nguyen Van Ly, or confined like Phan Van Loi? Mr. Tam should remember that business is a cheap farce, only for professional gangs like Bi Bi, Nancy Pest, Obozo, Mit Ram. And you? Give up Eight!Itchy eyes!
In contrast, meanwhile, retired Italian Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, former Vatican nuncio to the United States, on June 7, 2020 wrote a letter to President Trump, to share the difficulties. in his attempt to "slap the swamp" and advised him to persevere in the fight against "children of darkness": He wrote, "[...] the children of darkness are the Invisible Enemy of all humanity" that of darkness is the invisible enemy of all mankind), and “[...] riots are orchestrated by the children of darkness to serve the purposes of those who would like to see someone elected in the upcoming presidential elections who embodies the goals of the deep state. ” (the riotings organized by the children of darkness serving the ploy want to see, in the upcoming presidential election, one who implements the goals of the underground state).Viganò went on to say that he denounced the Catholic bishops who expressed their support for taking to the streets to oppose ...
4►. Joe Biden and the lame chickens: Lame
chickens, because they can't stand upright, just eat around the mill. I want to say the DemoK-Rats Deo, headed by the Black White Black Sleepy Joe, for the need to vote, in front of the gold coffin of George Floyd, a criminal Black guy (once had a knife in his stomach a pregnant woman to get money), a record in prison, check out, genuinely knelt down, and the black police chief Minneapolis Medaria Arradondo, hugged the coffin crying, like his father died, while Mr. Jar Obozo wiped a tear with his hand, assuming it was flowing. How ridiculous and ridiculous! Seeing want to vomit!
In the House of Representatives, Nancy Pest, wearing red clothes and wearing a white voile scarf like a bride, joined a number of fellow Saturn colleagues (including Chief Clown Chuck Schumer, but I, my eyesight, couldn't find it). in the picture) invite each other to pay homage to commemorate the ghost, Mr. Floyd, ‒ died of the cruelty of the white police officer Derek Chauvin. About Witch Nancy, after more than 8 minutes on her knees, unable to stand by herself, she had to ask a white girl to lift her arms. Shame the flood! Naturally, the criminal Floyd was canonized by Cardinal Farrell, Archbishop Gregory, Former President Obozo, former Deputy Black Petite, President of the Pest House of Representatives, Prime Minister Merkel Four Faces, Former General Mad Dog Mattis, etc. - all because of the need to raid TT Trump.
Not to mention that the puppet Wei Republican, also the patriarch of the Phe Pho, named Mitt Romney, the mean, original Mormon, was also present in the peaceful, or violent protest, by BLM, or Antifa. organization, only God knows. Recently, he announced to the press that Mr. Trump will win the second term. Just heard, some readers on our side seemed to be excited that he had reformed his righteous attitude. As for NLGO, I am skeptical, thinking (maybe wrong) that this Patriarch of the Anti-Pritocracy wants to raise the alarm, rather, remind, let the Turks know to raise awareness, try to disrupt more more.
Not to mention the former President Bush Con, long kept quiet, suddenly imitating Obozo, itchy mouth, losing his status and the principle of "a speechless manner, not criticizing his predecessor", but every former president must holding, from where to jump, criticizing President Trump on Floyd, arguing that he has failed to tackle racial discrimination. Bush I forget the Roney King riots that happened, very intensely, many people were killed and injured, in 1992, in LA, during the reign of his father, President George Bush Father. I did not mention the controversy between Bush Con and The New York Times over his statement that he would vote for Black Ball in November this year, because he did not read the news and the evidence. Still in doubt, to be or not to be?). And because, certainly, in 2016, the whole Bush group voted for Trump, in the words of Bush Father,after "Low Energy Jeb Bush" (ie Bush Em, nicknamed by Trump) was violently attacked by Trump, had to flee to run for people, very soon. NLGO has written an article about the petty feudalism of the Bush family - which at one time I admired and supported the election money (1992, 2000, 2016) for all three.
Pray for God to allow President Trump to be rescued, to have the strength and perseverance in the difficult battle against enemies in the outside, and to re-win the glorious election in November this year.
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2020.05.02 19:03 C5Jones [Kiko of the Night] Arc 1: The Rosemary Inn — Ch. 3 (Urban Fantasy)

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For those of you reading this in the future, today is April 21, 2020.
It’s not called that here, though, because the fae didn’t reset time to mark the birth of a human god. In Ildathaí Standard Time, it’s the year 9844, measured from the estimated sprouting date of the World Tree; to the dwarves, it’s the 1st of Âfvalasirkha, 11369; in the high elves’ solar calendar, it’s the sixth sun of Saille, year 528 of the Third Era. When discussing matters of cross-cultural history, it would only be fair to include all those dates.
So we’ll call it 2020.
Of the infinite Earths, this is one of the closest to yours. Despite its differences, its timeline has run parallel in every way that matters. And through some divine coincidence or joke, every species that’s evolved on this Earth has been documented on yours, even though most of them don’t exist there.
Its history meandered around fairy forests, took a detour through Atlantis, and prayed to different gods than yours for guidance, but hit all the same waypoints, arriving at the same place at the same time so precisely that Kiko has the same smartphone you might, the only difference being that it bears the logo of a barnacle fruit.
The people of Acacia aren’t currently locked in their houses, but for their own reasons, there will come a time when they are.
As we find ourselves, the boy who will give them those reasons is playing a game on that phone, although straining to see it through sunglasses. He needs them so the rising sun doesn’t scorch his eyes, but they match the rest of his outfit to the point where it looks like he’s trying too hard.
Black is his color, and no amount of complaining from his mom will put him off it. Last night’s skinny jeans have been picked up from the bedside and tossed back on, paired with a few pocket chains that do nothing and a t-shirt for Der Ohrwurm, an industrial band you don’t have, but is indistinguishable from fifty you do.
It’s the time before the first bell rings, when he and his friends usually meet in the courtyard of Rofhessa Memorial High to chat. Ailbe gets there first, throwing up a nonsensical salute they invented in their freshman year.
He grins. ”Hail the spider.”
”Hail the spider,” Kiko returns.
Ailbe is a Cat Sìth, which, if you know your Irish folklore, you’ll have heard described as upright black cats “the size of a dog.” He’s the height of a small Great Dane or a normal 14 year-old boy. It is said they can steal souls. He can not. It is said they are witches in disguise. He is not. Chubby, petulant, and usually wearing a t-shirt with a dragon on it, Ailbe is, without a doubt, the least threatening monster alive.
He sits down on the planter wall next to Kiko, and unprompted, opens a bookmarked book, and begins to read:

“In the cold of a midwinter’s gloaming,
Up the Stygian river we roll’d.
With wights to the right of us roaming,
In woodlands of terrors untold.

“Lo! From the dark shores they assail’d us,
With arrows and infernal flame.
On this plane, no Almighty avail’d us,
In the slaughter that ceaselessly came.

“From deck we beheld yon wild hunters,
Drear ashen, dread ebon of face.
Yet in moonlight the sight brought strange wonders,
A savage yet seraphic race.

“As we fled from a fleet devastated,
I ask’d God, Was this part of Thy plan?
Perhaps Ye these cruel beings created,
To punish the hubris of man.
To undo the doings of man.

”That was written by a human soldier in the Second War. It’s about being attacked by the fae at the Afon mouth,” he adds proudly.
”Cool,” says Kiko. “Got one about dying a virgin?”
It’s said you can test a friendship by how much verbal abuse you can dish out at each other and stay friends. If that’s true, Kiko and Ailbe are soulmates. In the six years since they met, they’ve barely stopped arguing to take a breath. But in a sappy moment in eighth grade, they once admitted they would take a bullet for each other. This was never spoken of again, lest anyone think they get along. But it’s secretly there in the background.
As Kiko fills him in on last night's exploits and the grounding that followed, the rest of the group trickles in. These special few consider themselves the next vanguard of the Unseelie: The malign fae, bringers of death in the dark, agents of chaos, walkers of the left hand path.
Known to everyone else as “those weird kids.”
Second comes Kiyiya, who may look like a Sasquatch, but don’t call him that. He’s of the Ste-ye-hah'mah, the night people of the American northwest. They once haunted the forests, blending into them so well they were a mere rumor, and anyone who wandered too close wasn’t coming back. He’s trilingual with English and Yakima, but his native language is Bird, in which he’s so fluent that when he speaks it indoors, people check to see if something’s gotten in the air ducts. He’s already 6’3 at 16, looming over the rest of them.
Next is an otherkin human called Foxglove. She’s recently decided she’s a Leanan Sídhe, a dark muse who gifts artists with genius at the price of their lives. And no one’s told her those aren’t real, because they want to see how far she’ll take it. She’s started wearing ear extensions 24/7 and studying the Black Tongue, which is no small feat: Not only are its tenses difficult, it’s known to make humans cough up blood.
Another girl who usually joins them is absent. ”Where’s Narkissa?” asks Kiyiya.
”In the gym. Morning practice with the dance team,” says Foxglove.
”Nymphs are crazy about dance class, aren’t they?”
”I guess it’s working out for them, though? They’re saying this year’s seniors might get to perform at the Summer Rade.”
Ailbe shrugs. ”Big deal. It’ll be like the tenth time our school’s done it.”
”Shut up, nerd. Of course you don’t care.”
“Exactly, let’s talk about something that doesn’t suck.” He taps Kiko on the shoulder. “How’s your costume coming?”
Walpurgis Night is next week, which is what really matters to people like Those Weird Kids. The fae’s version of it is a mirror image of Europe’s: the same, but the opposite. The Unseelie gather to ridicule the dread St. Walpurga, who took their pagan friends away. They dress up in their scariest traditional costumes, do the dark arts, and burn effigies of nuns. Their magic, by contrast, never works, but it reminds them there was a time when it did, which is what matters in a tradition. And Kiko had been looking forward to it all year. Like every year.
Ailbe taps Kiko on the shoulder. ”How’s your costume coming?”
”It’s not anymore. I’m grounded.”
“Aww, come on! You’re telling me you won’t even try to sneak out? No one’s allowed out on Walpurgis, but some-fucking-how, everyone gets there.”
Kiko usually included. The routine is that his parents forget what night it is, he sneaks out, and they ground him for a month when he comes back. This time, he just blew it too early. ”Mom even said she’s taking the next day off work so she can stay up all night and make sure I don’t leave,” he groans.
”Can I have it?” Ailbe probes.
”Yeah, but you’ll have to finish it yourself. I can’t look at it anymore.”
A fifth voice speaks up from behind them. ”Can you help me make mine?”
Tina is the daughter of a brujo negro and a succubus. Her stubby horns sprout from brown skin with a clay-red tint, over a face that’s a little odd, but you know what they say about exquisite beauty, strangeness in proportion, and there being neither or both. She’s practically a lolita goth fashion plate in her lacy dress and heart collar, with black lipstick—the expensive kind that doesn’t flake—and a flawless cut crease. She wears a night-blooming flower in her hair: if not real, then convincing enough. No one knows how much free time she has or how loose her parents are with the credit card.
”Oh, didn’t see you there. What are you going as?” Kiko asks.
“A hellspawn! A full one, instead of just half.”
He considers it. ”I can’t be out of the house after school, but I’ll ask mom if you can come over.”
”Will you need any fake blood, sculpting gel, or anything like that?”
”I have it. Just let me know when you’re thinking, and I’ll text you the address.”
”Thanks! See you around!” She bats her eyelashes at him, then goes off to do whatever cool thing she must be doing, as mysteriously as she came. Cheery but elusive, her very presence seems calculated.
”Why her, but not me?” Ailbe says.
”Are you deaf? And you know how I am about costume makeup.”
Foxglove nudges Kiko. ”I see that smile. Are you into her?”
”No.” he says. It’s admiration, not adoration. Part of him wants to be her, and it’s locked in constant combat with the part that wants to be an assassin.
”Your loss,” she says, lost in dreams. ”How do you think my name will go when we’re married? Foxglove López de Lilit? They might not be from the same culture, but I think it has a… je ne sais quoi.
“Pfft!” Ailbe almost spits out his soda. “Are you still doing the Foxglove thing?”
“What ‘Foxglove thing?’ That’s my name.
“Oh really? Because your school ID says—”
“Don’t. Say it.”
“It says—”
“Ailbe, I swear to the gods—”
“You would, Faith.
“Shut your fat mouth! Foxglove is my true name!”
“Since when?!”
”Since, uh, five weeks—”
Ailbe doesn’t let her finish. ”You don’t just shit out a true name!”
“Yeah you do, that’s how you get one! It’s not the one your parents give you, it’s the one your heart calls out for!”
”Exactly! You have to go into a trance or something, or someone has to bequeath it to you! Yours didn’t come to you, you just think it sounds cool!”
”How do you know it didn’t?”
”When you get it—if you get it, ‘cause most people don’t—it’s not gonna be something edgy. And besides, you don’t tell everyone either! That’s how they get control of you!”
”You guys, enough!” Kiko pipes in. “That’s not a thing. Names are a construct, and every race and language can have a different one. That could be a thousand names for the same shit. Even if it comes to you in a dream or whatever, how do you know your alphabet’s spelling of it is truer than the one in Elvish or Chinese? And if someone ‘bequeaths’ it to you, how could they then just turn around and control you with it? That’s cheating.”
He picks up a small stone from the planter. ”This rock’s name is now Steve. Does that mean I have power over it?”
Imperceptibly, the stone vibrates.
“Whatever, buzzkill,” says Ailbe. “You’re just salty ‘cause your name sucks.”
”What’s wrong with my name?”
“Ooh, I’m so scared of Kiko. Kiko, shadow hunter. Kiko of the night.”
“You’re one to talk, Ale-bee.”
Ailbe groans. It’s pronounced Alvah, because Gaelic never learned that letters mean things, but everyone says Ale-bee. He eventually got so tired of correcting ten people a day that he just went with it, but each time still feels like a little insult.
Kiko tosses the stone back. ”You don’t need some stereotype name to be a fae. Names get their connotations from the people who have them.”
Those Weird Kids have arguments like this every day. They haven’t caught on that the reason the other students avoid them isn’t fear.
Ailbe’s a typical “magic lawyer.” He reads too many sword and sorcery books—nonfiction ones, that is—even by Kiko’s standards. He can argue in circles for hours about how Spell X supposedly worked or the different types of cantrips or how basilisks fuck. He thinks we should go back to the old ways, although no one’s seen him away from his phone for more than ten minutes.
”What’s with you, anyway?” he says. “It’s like you don’t even care about magic, or history, or your heritage. You must live in a boring world.”
Kiko’s growing irritated. “And you take ‘em way too seriously.”
”I don’t get why you don’t. You come from the coolest unseelie culture of all.”
”No. My ancestors did, sure, but I don’t have any connection to them. And it wasn’t cool. The weapons were, and the house system and the folk heroes and the temples, but that doesn’t mean I have to believe the stupidity they did.”
“What?! Why?!”
”Why would I? I would’ve been nobody back then.”
Ailbe deflates. ”You don’t know that…”
”Yeah, I do. I’m a boy who can’t fight, and I’m not from some noble family, or I wouldn’t’ve been abandoned in the middle of nowhere. So back in the day, I would’ve been a servant or cannon fodder in some war.” He clenches his fists. ”You know what? If gods only exist ‘cause we believe in them, I hope ours fuckin' starved to death!”
Possible. No one’s heard from her in a while.
Ailbe looks baffled and betrayed. ”Then why were you hailing her?”
“Bro, I was being ironic. None of us still follow her. I’ve never met anyone who does.”
“What about the ones underground?”
”What, all ten of ‘em? The cave cities sucked, that’s why we left. Only the far right—like, the ‘let’s go back to having slaves’ people—miss it.”
“You don’t have to be like that to respect the old ways!”
”Do you know how goofy you sound? It’s like those metalheads who actually worship whatsisface. Red dude from Christianity. Name like a fabric. No one likes those guys. You always say religion is bullshit, so don’t go around having one. Leave the old ways where they belong.
”Plus, I don’t even know if I am that kind,” he adds with a sigh.
”Hmph. Whatever you are, you’re a shit one.” Ailbe smiles, and Kiko knows he’s joking. They say worse things to each other as casual banter. But he has no idea how deep it cuts.
Kiko Sesay is a dark elf.
He could very well be a drow, but just as likely not. He could also be a Norse dökkálfar, or a descendant of a cursed light elf, or a new crossbreed as yet unnamed. If only he knew his parentage. But he doesn’t—just one of many mysteries about him, and many more to come. And not that it would matter. The difference between the types has been all but lost. Nobody’s a pureblooded anything anymore.
His adoptive parents are human, as you can tell by the name: No apostrophes, pronounced how it’s spelled. Many days he forgets he isn’t one, which is why he tries so often to remind himself.
He runs his fingers through his white cornrows, a style his mom does for him. He doesn’t know if he likes it. It suits his facial shape, but not his aesthetic. He doesn’t know if it’s him.
Kiko is an array of colors that don’t make sense on a mammal. Charcoal skin that shines blueish like a bottle fly in direct sunlight. Vermilion eyes that glow a little when his night vision activates, or when he’s focused really hard on an algebra test. Platinum hair. But he’s black, so as far as humans are concerned, he’s black.
But it’s been fine: A childhood of soccer games watched over dad’s shoulder, cookouts, sleepovers with cousins, and not a single blood sacrifice. He was raised with actual affection. He’s never once had to watch for a knife in his back. His extended family is too big to count, even if none of them are fae, and close-knit in a way that was forbidden in the caves. In fact, it’s been pretty good.
But that’s why he doesn’t know what he is. Or what he should be.
Is "assassin" even a full-time job? he wonders. With one king ruling for the country’s whole history, it’s not like there are aspiring politicians knocking each other off for power. Who else would hire an assassin? Probably the mob, but he hasn’t seen any evidence of the cool kind of organized crime in Acacia, the kind where bosses wear sharp suits and ride in limos. The drug gangs of the South End slums are a bunch of meatheads with no class, beneath the notice of an elite trained killer like himself. Like he would be. Someday. Maybe.
Plan B was being a bounty hunter, except that’s well into the realm of things for which one must be swole. It takes size and strength to subdue a guy with prison muscles and bring him in alive. Oh yeah, and there are no bounty hunters in Ildathach. All criminal capture’s handled by Milipol, and there’s no way he’s joining them.
Deep down, he knows he’ll end up going to college, doing something normal, pleasing his family.
Ailbe’s right.
But that doesn’t mean he has to stand for this.
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Author notes:
  1. Crits welcome on this one. I was afraid it was an expo dump that would bore readers, but if you've reached this point, I guess not. A beta reader said that although she enjoyed it, some parts could use rephrasing, although she didn't know what, so if anyone has suggestions or opinons, I'm always interested in refining it.
  2. The first 3 updates are sort of a pilot. (And by the time we get to the next one, all the unanswered questions in ch. 1 will make sense.) After that, I'll work out a schedule, but word count per update will decrease: This one and the next, in particular, are over 3k, but after that, following ones will be between 1k and 2.

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2020.03.09 23:33 Elvis_Interstellar Updated list of all known banned subreddits sorted by reason and alphabetically part 2 (unmoderated and ban evasion)

This is a second thread containing subs banned for ban evasion or for being unmoderated, as Reddit limits you to 40000 characters per post. Link to main thread
 
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2020.01.18 15:17 s810 Old Austin Tales: Attack of the Airships - Spring of 1897

Lord, don't I wish I had a photo of the subject of today's story. You'll have to bear with me. Lots of descriptive 19th century newspaper articles coming through.
Today I bring you some Austin UFO stories from 50 years before the Roswell incident of 1947. I've seen and participated in a few discussions about this topic here before, but some new shit has come to light, so I've got to get this one off my chest. The acronym "U.F.O." gets taken for granted as something extra-terrestrial but it really means anything flying that's unidentified. Besides something alien, in today's world that could be anything from a weird looking drone or an Air Force test plane, or even a Chinese lantern.
There comes a time when technological progress advances to a point where the materials needed to invent something new and great are available to many people at once, so you end up with different people inventing things like the telephone, or the television, at roughly the same time. That's also kind of what happened with human flight. A few years before the Wright Brothers glided over a beach in North Carolina and before the Germans perfected the Zeppelin, there were apparently a few different people flying around the country in what was at the time referred to as "mystery airships". By most accounts these were cigar shaped craft, sometimes with elaborate sails or wings mimicking those of many different bird species, that could carry passengers and/or cargo flown over great distances. If you saw one today you would probably call it a blimp with wings, but it was really more like a floating paddleboat. Back in the late 1800s the thought of attaching a mechanical engine, whether steam or oil powered, to a balloon to guide it places was experimental and revolutionary. Different types of airships began test flights over Europe in the 1860s and by the 1880s there were Americans doing it too, although it would be more accurate to say these early inventors had very little idea what they were doing at all. They were basically trying out different forms of balloons with accessories more than inventing the blimp. But one thing is for sure, when these things would "fly"/float over anywhere near a populated area they would scare the crap out of the public and become the talk of the area for weeks. These were the UFOs of their time; some people thought they were from Mars. 123 years ago these things captivated The City of Austin when they began appearing over our violet crowned skies. There were more than a few sightings, locally, statewide, and nationally, and the Statesman of the time covered most of it. One Statesman reporter even had a sighting himself. The Legislature was freaking out over how to regulate them, and there was an incident at The Driskill. But as usual I'm getting ahead of myself.
The most famous incident during the "mystery airship" wave of 1896-1897 is probably the Aurora, TX UFO incident. To quickly sum it up, an airship with an alien visitor on board is supposed to have crashed after hitting a windmill in the small North Texas town of Aurora on April 17, 1897. The "martian" was said to have died from the crash, and was buried in an unmarked grave in the local graveyard.
That's a very important date to remember: April 17th, 1897. The following day on the 18th, the Statesman announced a "Strange and Startling" discovery. A few years ago Michael Barnes did a writeup on this in the Statesman, from which I quote:
Balloon? Airplane? UFO? What flew over Texas — including Austin — with searchlights in April 1897?
Bob Ward of the Travis County Historical Commission drew our attention to this airborne mystery. We’re not suggesting aliens, but the reports fit the definition of an “unidentified flying object.”
A headline in the April 18, 1897, Austin Daily Statesman shouted “Strange and Startling: A ‘What Is It?’ Serenely Sailing over the Blessed Long Star State.” Texans in Sherman, Fort Worth, Hillsboro, Marshall and Paris spotted unusual objects in the night sky. This was six years before the Wright Brothers took off from Kitty Hawk, N.C., and 50 years before an unexplained object crashed in Roswell, N.M.
On April 26, the Daily Statesman reported that airship had made another appearance, this time behind Mount Bonnell traveling north. “At least, three young men who were camping up on Bull Creek at Huddle’s Point say they saw it. Messrs. Geo. Powell, Ted Tobin and Jas. Caldewell went up the lake Saturday afternoon for a couple of days’ camp and pitched their tents. ... About 3 a.m. it began to rain and the men were compelled to get up and fasten the tent. It was at this time they saw the mysterious aircraft. They claim it was in sight fully 15 minutes and are positive they could not be mistaken. At intervals of every few seconds, it would throw its searchlights, and the boys say the light looked as big as four ordinary arc lights.”
Of course, those interested in UFOs have not let the subject of the 1897 aircraft go. An April 15, 2016, story in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reached back to revive the tale of an airship that crashed into a windmill, “killing a spaceman,” in the North Texas town of Aurora on April 17, 1897. (In other words, before the Austin sighting.)
The town recently celebrated the crash with an event called the Aurora Alien Encounter with talks and shuttle tours, including a stop at the cemetery where the alien nicknamed “Ned” was supposedly buried.
This 2017 Statesman article was I think the first time I had heard of this story. So the same night a UFO allegedly crashed in Aurora, airship(s) were seen all over North Texas. The Statesman of 1897 reports on that, but then eight days later comes another report of some boys seeing an airship near Mt. Bonnell. Well come to find out that was only one of many local airship stories dating back to that Spring and Summer of 1897 in the old Statesman archive, and not even the best one in my opinion. Allowing for the yellow-journalism tendencies of The Statesman and newspapers in general at the time, some of the reports are made with intricate detail by otherwise credible people from all walks of life, while others seem obviously a hoax too fantastical to be believed.
I'm just going to go through Statesman articles in chronological order. We will start in 1896 with a bit more backstory:

May 31, 1896 - A New Flying Machine

Prof. Samuel P. Laughley's Successful Flying Machine.
Professor Langleys has invented a flying machine which is a success. At Occoquan, Va.. near Washington, D. C. the Smithsonian Institute Professor recently tested this machine to his complete satisfaction. The machine rose 200 feet in the air and flew steadily for half a mile. Fuel in the engine then gave out and the machine sunk gently to the ground. The flying machine carries a small steam engine of one-horse power. The whole contrivance weighs twenty-five pounds. Its light steel frame work holds extended horizontally three sheets of thin canvas. one above the other. The length over all is fifteen feet. The engine runs two propellers.
The machine could fly 100 miles, or even a much greater distance with a sufficient, supply of steam. But the small engine employed is not of the condensing pattern and has no means of using the same water over again.
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October 2, 1896 - Flies Like a Bird

Remarkable Success of the Lamson AirShip at Portland, Ma.
Big machine rises steadily to an altitude of six hundred feet and then gracefully settles to the ground again. A New York Sun special from Portland. Maine. Charles H. Lamson performed a feat here the other day practically demonstrating that a large airship or kite capable of carrying a man can be floated successfully and steadily. He raised his ship with a dummy man on it 600 feet. The retaining rope broke when the ship was at that altitude. Had it not been for this break, Mr. Lamson would have sent up a man to navigate his ship. As it was, W. A. Eddy, of Bayonne, NJ. an authority on aerial experiments, declared that Lamson'a achievement was the greatest step toward solving the problem of aerial navigation of the age. Two records, at all events, Lamson made. He flew the largest kite or airship ever floated. He carried by mean of this kite the heaviest weight to the greatest altitude on record. Tbe kite which made the flight is an invention of Mr. Lamson and is called "The Lamson Airship." The kite, when in the air, resembles two large, oblong j boxes parallel to each other and attached to each other in the middle. It took 15 men to carry the kite or ship into the field from which it was to be sent up. The cord tested to a pull of 500 pounds This was made fast to a reel and four men attended to it. About 400 feet of the rope was run out along the ground, and at a signal from Mr. Lamson the snip was released. It quivered a m ment and then steadily rose skyward. Seated on the car of this ship was a dummy weighted to 150 pounds. The ship rose to an altitude of 600 feet, and was rising steadily, "when, with a sudden gust of wind, snap went the rope, showing what a tremendous pressure was brought upon it by the soaring of the ship. The ship floated out a half mile and descended as easily and gracefully as it went up. Had a man been in the car he would not have been harmed in the slightest.
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November 23, 1896 - An Airship Sure Enough!

Frisco lawyer says one is perfected and has had a successful trial.
San Francisco, Nov. 22. The Chronicle printed a story which would indicate that the airship in practical form is at established fact. About 1 o'clock last Monday morning. the inhabitants of Sacramento who astir at that hour claim to have seen an airship passing rapidly over the city (Some merely say they saw a bnght light, while others went so far as to say they saw a cigar shaped flying machine and heard human voices from it.) The residents of Oakland also say they same the same sight. The story of the mysterious airship ha been told all over tin state and has created considerable amusement, as it was generally believed to he a hoax.
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So you can see that at least a few people were experimenting with airships in various forms at that time. This brings us to 1897, and the first incident mentioned in the 2017 Statesman article. This was written the day after the Aurora incident but doesn't mention Aurora by name.

April 18, 1897 - Strange And Startling

What is it serenely sailing over the blessed Lone Star State? Be it a big airship or something else seen in the heavens at various North Texan points.
Keep a Watch Out Here. Of late strange sights have been witnessed in the heavens and some day ago.
The Statesman obtained a dispatch saying that an airship or something of that sort had been seen sailing over Oklahoma. Now the mysterious aerial craft has been seen at various points in Texas and from all accounts it is a fast sailer. Friday night at Sherman, Mr. W. S. Hellyer, cashier of the Missouri, Kansas and Texas Railroad, saw a mysterious oval-shaped object of large proportions plass over the moon. On the same night, Conductor W. M. Honney of Fort Worth, his wife and mother saw a strange object pass over the city.
On the same night Hon. J. S. Bound of Hillsboro, on his way to visit a sick friend, had an experience he will not forget soon. He was jogging alone quietly, when suddenly his horse whirled around and came near overturning the buggy. There was a brilliant light, as if coming from an arc light. This light, he says rested on him less than a minute and then he saw it gliding over a field nearby. It then turned upward and he watched it until he says it must have been 1000 feet in in the air. The light appeared to him to be the headlight of some kind of it ship. While he watched, the light went out and small ones such a incandescent lights, appeared all around the body of the vessel, or whatever it was.
The strange craft sailed slowly in a southernly direction and while Mr. Bounds watched it all the lights were extinguished and then it disappeared.
On the same night, about 2 o'clock, J. A. Black of Paris, Tx., night watchman at the Paris Oil and Cotton company's plant, observed a faint but luminous body in the northeast heavens. It looked at first like a luminous cloud, but as it drew nearer he saw it was some, huge monster. He hurried over to the cabin of a negro named Jim Smith and woke him up, and when Jim caught sight of the heavenly visitor his wool promptly straightened out and Jim piously went to praying. Mr. Black watched the object carefully, and to a Dallas News reporter he said its body was shaped something cigar, and appeared to be 200 feet long. It carried sails and attachments that looked like great fans. It finally disappeared, going in the direction of the Mississippi river. Mr. Black's dog was with himi when he first discovered the monster and he was greatly agitated and moaned until the thing disappeared.
On the same night Conductor Virgil Brown and his brakeman on the Texas-Pacilic Railroad saw the curious monster near Jewella. La., about thirty miles east of Marshall. It appeared to have a search light attached to it that threw out rays in several directions. It appeared to be going in the direction of Marshall and traveled faster than his train. On the same night at Marshall, Marshal Dick Wentberby. night watchman at the Pacific Railroad shops, saw the monster pass over. From Jewella to Hillsboro is some 300 or 400 miles, and the ship being seen at both places only a few hours apart shows it is a traveler. Whence is it? 'What is it and whither is it going, anyhow? Are we living in the days when strange sights are to appear in the heavens?
From this point onward the word was out that these things were being seen in Texas. What follows in the coming days in the Statesman seems like borderline mass hysteria.

April 20, 1897 - Rickety Airship

The report that Deputy Sheriff Thorp and Uncle Dick Boyce, afraid of the airship, were sleeping in the boiler room at the court house, is untrue. They stay in the basement of the Capitol. No weak boiler room for them with a rickety airship sailing overhead.

April 20, 1897 - The Heavenly Mystery

Possible soldiers from warlike Mars out on a terrestrial reconnoiter
An astronomical theory about the mysterious stranger as seen in Chicago. The celestial craft the talk of the town.
The great and mysterious aerial vessel that has thrown north Texas and many parts of the country into a state of excitement and commotion, was first seen sailing over Kansas, but the stories about it did not excite much attention. Since then, however, the mysterious stranger has been seen in many parts of the country, and Friday night last reputable citizens in scores of Texas towns had a view of the aerial vehicle. It has traveled over Illinois, Indiana, Iowa. Wisconsin, Arkansas, Louisiana and other states, and everywhere has excited great curiosity and in some places provoked consternation. On Friday night, April 9, the strange light skirted over the northern border of Chicago and could be seen, according to the numerous reports of residents in that neighborhood. A great crowd gathered at the corner of Milwaukee and Oakley avenues and gazed at the object, trying to figure out to their satisfaction what it might be. It was an "airship" for lack of a better name to designate it by, but most were skeptical about the identity of the "manifestation." It was said the object looked very much like a balloon, but the "red light" was plainly discernible. Many of the people mounted the roofs in the neighborhood and all the field glasses in the vicinity were called into play.
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In Texas:
The strange craft seen at many points in North and East Texas Friday night has thrown those parts of the state into a whirl of excitement. Col. R. N. Burt, cashier of the National Bank of Ladonia, Texas, saw the craft, or whatever it is, last Friday night. His description varies very little from that of others, only that it appeared much larger to him, as he says that it seemed to be about 300 feet long, its wiungs being enormous and looking like huge sails. It seemed to hover for a short time over the city and then rise and go rapidly in a southwesterly direction. At Farmersville, Texas, Friday night, as reported in the Dallas News, about 9 o'clock a dim tight was seen in the northwest, apparently moving slowly to the south or southeast. When first seen it did not look larger than an ordinary 30-cent silver piece. Those watching it soon discovered that the object was approaching the city. It traveled; at the rate of sixty or eighty miles an hour. Some thought it to lie a cloudless tornado, and those who had storm houses lost no time in getting into them, whilst the more unfortunate waited and watched the result, of the approach of the queer object. In a very short time fully two-thirds of the citizens of the city were out looking at what they then supposed to be a large planet or meteor approaching the earth. In a few moments, in fact, in less time than one can tell it, the queer thing was almost hanging over the city. City Marshal Brown was in the western part or the city making his rounds before going home and says the ship or balloon passed over him about 200 feet from the ground. Mr. Brown says he could see two men in the ship and something resembling a large Newfoundland dog. Mr. Brown says he was close enough to hear them talking, but could not understand one word of their language.
Mr. Walter L. Norwood, an undertaker at Galveston, had a professional call about 3 o'clock Saturday morning, and he says he and his driver. Bob Tevis, saw the airship and said to a Galveston news reporter: "The moon was shining brightly, and we could see almost as fully as in daylight. There was not a cloud in the sky. When we were out on the beach not far from our destination I happened- to look up and saw the thing. It moved to the eastward down the beach, following the line of the beach as closely as one would do in driving a buggy. We stopped and watched it. When down about the end of the island it turned and followed the bay front until almost Tremont street, when it turned and went south out over the gulf, disappearing in the distance." It was pointed at both ends, according to Mr. Norwoods description, and the headlight was directly in front. It looked like a great big bird, with wings flapping regularly and it traveled swiftly.
Statesman's Mystery Man.
The mystery man of The Statesman heard yesterday that Mr. R.H. Cousins had caught a glimpse of the mysterious ship Friday night, and Mr. Cousins was seen about it. 'No, I saw no ship," he said. "I stepped out into my yard and my attention was attracted by a moving light which appeared to lie some distance above the earth, not far from the residence of Mr. J. W. Graham. I first I thought it was a meteor, but I soon discovered it moved too slow for a meteor. In the light was not very large, I think possibly I could have covered it with my hand. I watched it as it moved and it passed over and down in the direction of Shoal Creek. I saw no dark object, nor anything that resembled a ship; I saw nothing but the light, and at the time thought nothing about it. The story, as reported, was that Mr. Cousins had seen a large ship-like shape, with the light attached to it. To the Statesman's gang last night the mystery man, to the utter consternation of the boys, gave it as his unalterable opinion that there was something in this airship business. "Where there's so much smoke there must be some fire," he said. "So many reports, from so many different points can not be fabrications. People may say what they will, but there's something in it."
The gang was visibly moved. "It is my opinion," continued the mystery man, "that the airship, so-called, is nothing more nor less than a reconnoitering aerial war car from warlike Mars, investigating the Conditions of the United States to see what reinforcements we'll need when the country is invaded by the allied armies of Europe, the Mars soldiers having no confidence whatever In the American jingoes as real fighters," "With these soldiers of Mars cavorting around over our heads, do you think there is any danger to us of the earth?" asked the gang in concert,' "I most emphatically do.
Last Thursday night one of their aerial boats exploded, and scraps of steel and piece of electric wire were found on the school house, the roof of which workmen were repairing. They heard an explosion during the night, and just before it took place the aerial vehicle was seen sailing through the air. There is great danger in venturing out these nights. What if one of those fellows from Mars should tumble out and fall on you ? The city editor and telegraph man were profoundly impressed, and last night they slept under a table in the editorial rooms.

April 21, 1897 - Shadbolt gets a package at the Driskill

Say, you people all know Shadbolt, manager of the Driskill, and are acquainted with his reputation for veracity? The fact that he is in the category with George Washington in this line, inclines me to take stock in these airship yarns that are at present flooding the country. Shad asserts that while on the roof of the hotel last Monday night engaged in taking clothes off the line, he was astonished first by a peculiar sizzling noise, followed immediately by a biff, bang, whiz, and a current of cold air that chilled him to the marrow. Dodging behind a chimney pot, he saw coming towards him a frightfully constructed cigar-shaped balloon, or something of that character.
His heart was in bis throat for a moment, but swallowing it with an effort, be sang out: 'Ship ahoy!' A voice replied: 'Howde? Is this Austin?' 'You're bloody right,' yelled Shad, whereupon the main guy on that flying monster called out: 'Stand by you lubbers, and let go that freight'. Something struck the roof, and the startled manager says as the thing went out of sight there was a man sitting cross-legged on the quarter deck, working a concertina. and grinding out the music of 'Me 'Art Is True to Poll,' (???) In the bundle, which smelled of stale fish and a few decayed things of that kind, was a note stating that the ship was en route to China, but would return in October next, by which time the writer hoped the Texas legislature would have passed all the blooming (democrat) platform demands formulated at Fort Worth. Now Shadbolt will not deny bis fondness for potted cheese and a bleeding glass of 'alf and 'alf, but be says neither of these appetizers had the slightest connection with his experience on the roof. He's got the note, and the brick that came with it, and will take pleasure in showing it to his friends.

April 21, 1897 - Weary Man Sick of Hearing About Airship

A weary man: "Can yon direct me to a boarding house where they do not talk of the airship?"

April 24, 1897 - Airship Resolution

Proposal to have the commission regulate them.
Yesterday morning, in a spirit of fun, Mr. Brigance offered the following resolution about airships: "Whereas, There is an airship sailing around Texas, carrying freight and passengers; and whereas the owners or incorporators of said airship pay no taxes for said traffic; and whereas, the railroad commission have been derelict in their duty in fixing rates tor said airship; and whereas, The State of Texas is badly in need of fund to run the state government; therefore,
Be it resolved that the advocate of revenue measures. Hon. J. T. Curry, the representative from Van Zandt county, is hereby requested to be the master of making rates for the government of said airship before the Railroad Commission of Texas and request that said commission proceed at once to make rates and charges for the transportation of passengers and freight in Texas, and in default of the payment of said rates, said commission shall apply to the Justice of the Peace of Precinct No. 1, Travis County, and procure an attachment and proceed to levy the same upon said airship for the purpose of collecting said rates, etc.
Now comes the second instance mentioned in the 2017 article.

April 26, 1897 - Airship Again

The airship made its appearance again early yesterday morning. At least three young men who were camping up on Bull creek, at Huddle's point, say they saw it. Messrs. Geo. Proctor, Ted Tobin and Jno. Caldwell went up the hike Saturday afternoon for a couple of days camp, and pitched their tents at Huddle's point. About 3 o'clock yesterday morning it began to rain, and the young men were compelled to get up and fasten their tent. It was at this time they saw the mysterious air craft. They claim it was in sight fully fifteen minutes and are positive they could not have been mistaken. At intervals of every few seconds it would throw its searchlight, and the boys say the light looked as big a four ordinary arc lights. It made its appearance from behind Mount Bonnell and traveled north. The boys broke camp last afternoon they say because it was raining so hard, but that mysterious light probably made the rain seem wetter than usual.

April 27, 1897 - Another Airship Again

It seems impossible to hide anything from the "argus eyes and ears" of a Statesman reporter. Mr. Teagarden of Teagarden & Shumate, "The Peacemakers," has been in "telepathic" communication with the inhabitants of Mars for some time past. In fact his summer location on the summits of various mountains in Colorado has been the means of enabling him to adopt a system of telepathic communication, and he intimates that "the airship" now voyaging around us is for the purpose of discovery, and not war, as some suppose. The ship is named "The Peacemaker" and is now used in the interest of his manufacturing centers of goods kept by this firm and perfect such arrangements as may be necessary for their interests. Upon his return early in May, Mr. Teagarden designs taking a trip over the eastern continent as a guest of the representatives of the fiery planet. No alarm need be felt by the inhabitants of Earth as the appearance of the ship only betokens peace. In fact, wars are a thing of the past in Mars, and the art is lost with them.

April 27, 1897 - Airship Located

It is en-route to Cuba to scatter dynamite for Wyler's forces.
A carefully planned expedition left for Cuba last night from near Sea Isle, N. J. The supply of arms and ammunition left New York Saturday on lighters and was placed on a tug between Barengal and Long Branch. The tug came steadily down the coast and was soon joined by another boat. In the way of munition, the expedition took along a Hotchkiss gun. 1000 rifles, 13000 rounds of ammunition, 2000 machetes, a lot of medicine and what is known as an experimental flying machine adapted to the use of dynamite.

April 29, 1897 - Airship Seen Here

It passed over the city yesterday morning in a rain.
Moved Slowly, Plainly Visible
Seen by more than one person. Work of Hiram Wilson, son of the master-mechanic for the New York Central (Railroad).
The airship, carrying a large headlight, passed over the city yesterday morning, apparently about 300 or 400 feet above the earth. It moved slowly at first, traveling in a northwesterly direction, but its speed seemed to lie greatly increased when it reach a point probably over Shoal creek. A gentleman out north of the capitol saw it, and a colored man living on Robertson Hill had a sight of the aerial visitor. A fine view of it was had by Mr, Otto F. Porsch, an intelligent and wholly reliable gentleman living at the corner of Colorado and Second streets and doing a grain and feed business at 402 East Sixth street. He is well known and has a large circle of friends. A Statesman reporter saw Mr. Porsch at his place of business yesterday, and he told the following story: "I was aroused from my sleep by my dogs barking and growling, and I went to a window and looked out. It was very cloudy and dark, and I saw the glare of a big light on the clouds. I thought a large fire was in progress and hastily put on my clothes and went out into the yard to see where it was. As I opened the door to go out, my young dog, greatly scared at something, pushed by me and went into the house. My old dog stayed in the yard, and I noticed he was barking at something overhead, and I looked up and saw great light slowly moving over the Salge Hotel. It was coining from the southeast and moved in a northwesterly direction. It appeared to me to be about 300 or 400 feet above the hotel, and it traveled very slow, the light being so blinding that I could not see the shape of the vehicle or whatever it was carrying it, I watched it carefully, and after it had gone some distance and has passed me, I could see the shape of the rear end of the vessel, and it appeared to be in this shape." And Mr. Forsch arranged his hands in a V shape, somewhat like the tail of a fish. "It was still moving very slowly, but as I watched 1 saw a movement on each side of it like a bird flap ping its wings, and its speed was once greatly increased, and I watched it until it disappeared, which was not long after it began to increase its speed. It was drizzling a little, and it rained pretty hard after the light disappeared. Asked if he saw any colored lights, he said "No, I did not. It was a very large, ordinary light and very blinding until it passed me." Mr. Porsch said that a gentleman living out north of the capitol told him yesterday forenoon that he had seen the ship at the same time Mr. Porseh did. Mr. Porsch said: "After it had disappeared I went buck into the house and looked at the clock, and it was exactly fifteen minutes after 4." A colored man named Gray saw the ship as it passed over yesterday morning.
The Galveston News of yesterday contained a story that the vessel landed in Uvalde a few days ago near the residence of Sheriff H. W. Baylor. Two men were aboard, with whom Mr. Baylor talked, one of them giving bis name as Wilson, and he said be had lived in Fort Worth, and the News of yesterday confirmed bis story and shows he did live in the Panther city, where he worked on an arship.
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May 2, 1897 - Letter to Sheriff Baylor of Uvalde

A gentleman in this city has written Sheriff Baylor of Uvalde for the particulars of the airship he boarded and inspected at Uvalde.

May 4, 1897 - Cripple Creek Airship

The airship has been heard from at Cripple Creek. The information comes through a letter dropped from the airship. The letter states that there are three person in the airship, and that they are out of water and can not make a landing on the earth and have given up in despair. A man who could invent such an airship a that would have the ingenuity to condense water from the clouds, but the whole thing about the airship seems to be getting to be "in nubibus." (?)

May 4, 1897 - Airship demonstrated at Nashville

A sure enough airship
A Practical Demonstration Given at the Nashvllle Exposition
Today at the Tennessee Exposition, Professor Arthur Barnard, physical instructor of the Young Men's Christian Association of Nashville, began a jonrney in an airship constructed by himself. Professor Barnard promised to sail against the wind after arising into the air, and he did so. The airship will be continued in use at the exposition. Professor Barnard said he would land at the starting point tonight. The ship is 4 feet long and 20 feet in diameter
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May 11, 1897 - Travis County Man Knows How To Build An Airship, But Won't

In a burst of confidence yesterday, Uncle Dick Boyce informed a Statesman reporter that Joe Costa had seen an airship sailing majestically through the deep blue heavens.
Joe was hunted up and asked if he saw the aerial mystery.
"I have not seen an airship, nor do I want to see one," he indignantly said. "If I wanted to see an airship I'd build one and be done with it. I know exactly how one should be constructed. You know I've watched buzzards and a ship modeled after them will fly"
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May 23, 1897 - Webberville Airship

It was seen in Austin and Webbervllle Friday night.
Friday night, about 12:30 o'clock, Mr. O'Brien, the Associated Press operator in the Statesman office, while standing on the gallery in front, saw what was evidently the airship, or at least the mysterious aerial body that has been seen several times in these parts. Mr. O'Brien watched it about a half minute, and then hastened to the window and called to the telegraph editor to come quick. The latter, although mentally absorbed in the interesting St. Louis produce market, hastened to the gallery, but when he got there the airship had passed out of view behind the business buildings southeast of the office. Both watched for some minutes in vain, and then returned to their work, the operator with a puzzled look, and the telegraph editor with an incredulous smile flitting across his face. They resolved not to say anything about it till next day, to see if any other night hawk had seen anything of the sort. Yesterday word came from Webberville announcing that John T. McCall, a prominent citizen of that section, had seen the airship about 10 o'clock Friday night. It was sailing very low, and he had a good view of it. He said it looked to be about fifty feet long, and was brilliantly lighted, looking something like a steamboat at night. This description tallies exactly with Mr. O Brien's description. There is about two and a half hour s difference in the time the two men saw it, but this could be easily accounted tor. There is evidently something prowling about the heavens in this neck of the woods, whether it is an airship or some other illuminated body.

June 2, 1897 - Edison Says Mysterious Airship is Fake

Thomas Edison, Denounces It as a "Pure Fake" Thinks It Absurd, Believes, However, That Airships Will Be Successfully Constructed in Future.
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June 2, 1897 - Legislature Sees An Airship

Along about 10 o'clock some enthusiastic member saw what be thought was an air ship hovering over the university, and in a many seconds as it take to tell it, all the dear solons were rubbernecking toward the airship. The House and Senate both were nearly disbanded in their vain endeavor to see the airship. It could be plainly seen hovering over the university, and the members spent some time in discussing exactly how the ship was operated. They will probably not feel so cheerful in the morning when they discover that the impossible airship that excited their admiration was but a kite -an aeroplane- the university professors were operating for the purpose of trying to secure electrical experiments. The horse is on the solons, and they might as well give in.
Well I'm almost out of space but I think you get the picture. It goes on like this throughout the summer of 1897 and into 1898 when primitive airships were used in the Spanish-American war. There is an old truism that says necessity is the mothers milk of invention, but I have always said ubiquity does the same thing. In this case it seems to fit, the materials for flight were available everywhere and a few visionaries put it together. As for all the Austin sightings, I can't say who it was or what they were trying to do. But I do think if even one of those sightings was real then there is probably a chapter on human flight in some history books that needs a little expanding.
No Bonus Pics today I'm afraid. I hope to make it up to you next time.
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2020.01.03 16:37 sconce2600 The List: 2020

Edit 4/9/20: The lineup potentially leaked on the official website, bold names denote the names leaked (this may change upon an official release).
This is a list of acts that are potentially playing OSLs 2020. I intend to update this list via edit from now until the lineup drop. If you want to add someone to this list just comment below and I will modify the list and credit your handle next to the edit. If you want to find someone in particular quickly I suggest you use ctrl F.
POTENTIAL HEADLINERS
POTENTIAL UNDERCARD:
Playing five tracked festivals
Playing four tracked festivals
Playing three tracked festivals
Playing two tracked festivals
Playing one tracked festival
Added by users, not currently playing any heavy crossover festivals so far
The following have appeared at OSLs once before but have not released new material since their first stint and are therefore less likely to appear in 2019 (To date only Beck and Vance Joy have returned WITHOUT new material, making the following acts much less likely)
The following is a list of bands that have played OSLs more than once and the gaps between return performances, considering only five acts have ever played OSLs three times, all acts in this section should be considered less likely than acts that have played OSLs once or never. Note that no act has ever returned quicker than a three year gap, Givers, Fantastic Negrito, and Big Boi were all makeup performances for prior year cancellations.
Headliners
Threepeaters
Three year gap
Four year gap
Five year gap
Six year gap
Seven year gap
Eight year gap
Ten year gap
The following are past lineup drop dates, all lineup drops from 2012 to 2019 have occurred on a Tuesday:
ACTS CONFIRMED PRIOR TO LINEUP DROP:
Clement Marfo: cracked via bigpavelski35 from a Twitter clue video posted by OSLs Twitter.
Orville Peck
Zhu
Tyler, The Creator
Brittany Howard
The Hu
The 1975
Below are names on the potential lineup leak that occurred on 4/9/20 on the official Outsidelands website that were not included on either list:
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2019.07.06 00:14 pynchon_as_activist Gravity's Rainbow and the secret integration.

I've read Gravity's Rainbow four times and thought I understood it pretty well. However, reading Beckett's Molloy/Malone Dies/The Unnameable trilogy and the Beckett biography Damned to Fame, and a lot of Jung, and going through some difficult times made me realise how much within me that I had previously repressed. The slow process of integrating everything I was in denial about has allowed me to find peace that I never thought I would attain, having been clinically depressed and suicidal for around ten years. I started reading GR again with this new understanding of myself and realised that I actually hadn't understood it properly at all. I thought I'd share a few things I realised in case they might be of interest to any of you. I will discuss the book from a psychoanalytical perspective and a political perspective here, but I do not wish to reduce what is such a brilliant novel in its own right to these elements alone; I feel like the literary perspective has been discussed far more than these aspects though, and strongly doubt I would be able to add anything new to that excellent body of existing work. Even though I have realised that the political and psychoanalytical aspects are examined and explored very overtly in GR, I think they are often underexamined because the readers themselves haven't come to terms with their own inner conflicts, and are therefore in denial about certain things in themselves, such as their own possible complicity (through inaction or otherwise) with the System - much like Pokler. Therefore I am only going to be discussing the book within the very narrow frameworks of psychoanalysis and politics, while acknowledging that this comprises only a fraction of what it really is.
The sheer density of GR can make it hard to tell what the hell is going on even just in terms of things like the plot. But maybe this isn't such a surprise, Pynchon's intelligence and education, how long he spent writing it, and and how much research he had to do in the process. It's only after doing a lot of the background reading that he refers to that things started to come together for me. With subjects such as Pavlov's theories of conditioning, statistics, physics, engineering, Pynchon reproduces key concepts within the text. For example:
Pavlov was fascinated with “ideas of the opposite.” Call it a cluster of cells, somewhere on the cortex of the brain. Helping to distinguish pleasure from pain, light from dark, dominance from submission... . But when, somehow—starve them, traumatize, shock, castrate them, send them over into one of the transmarginal phases, past borders of their waking selves, past “equivalent” and “paradoxical” phases —you weaken this idea of the opposite, and here all at once is the paranoid patient who would be master, yet now feels himself a slave... who would be loved, but suffers his world’s indifference, and, “I think,” Pavlov writing to Janet, “it is precisely the ultraparadoxical phase which is the base of the weakening of the idea of the opposite in our patients.” Our madmen, our paranoid, maniac, schizoid, morally imbecile—
However, for much of the history, particular that regarding intelligence agencies (whether that is WWII activity such as the O.S.S. or the S.O.E., or CIA activity in the 60s and 70s around the time that Pynchon was writing GR in a Californian beach house, very near where groups such as the Black Panthers were operating, targets of programs such as COINTELPRO and Operation CHAOS), the books had not even been written yet. I think the first few pages, with the carriage full of evacuees, can be interpreted as moving into the darkest parts of lost or repressed history, e.g.:
and it is poorer the deeper they go... ruinous secret cities of poor, places whose names he has never heard..
These names he has never heard could range from the Herero tribe whose genocide he discovered while writing V. ten years before, to Novi Pazar (with the Adenoid passage), to the all other hidden history in the book. I have also read people remarking on how in The Crying of Lot 49 it seems like Pynchon was somehow aware of MK-Ultra (which Dr Hilarius was involved with) before well the documents were leaked and the program confirmed. However, fortunately, many these history books have since been written. If anyone is interested, a great place to start is The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government, published in 2016, which follows Dulles from his time at the Wall Street law firm Sullivan and Cromwell to his time in the O.S.S. in Switzerland, working with Nazis in Operation Paperclip, to his directorship of the CIA through the 50s and 60s. Reading about this Cold War history, and also the writing of Huey Newton (who I strongly believe Enzian is in part based on), made a lot of GR far clearer. It is important to recognise that these histories of intelligence agencies contain irrefutable documented facts that the public at large is collectively in denial about - because they are too dark for them to acknowledge and face. For them to acknowledge these facts requires integrating that darkness into their conscious minds, before anything can be done about it on the political level. I think that, through the incorporation of all the world's darkness, from politics to history to sexual and paedophilic fantasies to etc..., this is the Secret Integration that Pynchon is trying to accomplish, and which concept he wrote a story about, published in Slow Learner. Reading this book causes the beginnings of this process, as all of the darkness is brought into one's mind by reading it.
Another crucial area for me was understanding a bit about Freud and Jung. Particularly Freud's tendency to project his own incredibly powerful repression onto his patients, because of his own compulsion to analyse and differentiate everything, much in the Western tradition, seen in, for example, his five stages of psychosexual development, oral, anal, phallic, latent and genital stages. Some people don't need to delve into the darkest aspects of their unconscious to find peace, but since Freud did, he felt the need to inflict this also on his patients - seen in the many cases where he would tell victims of childhood sexual abuse that it was due to their own subconscious desires to be raped, which could, obviously, do enormous damage to his patients. His compulsion to do this might have stemmed from, alongside his overanalytical compulsions, the truth that anything we are in denial of or repress causes inner conflicts that manifest in our daily lives, and the only way to get rid of them is to integrate them into the conscious mind. Jung's equivalent of this is his statement that “until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.” Jung's thinking on the unconscious, and particularly the notion of the collective unconscious - this idea that all the darkness in humanity is also within ourselves, and vice versa, much as in Daoism, another critical source for GR - is very useful to help understand the book.
An interesting thing to consider is that the old psychoanalytic approach, more directive/authoritarian (going back to Mesmer powerfully dominating his hypnotic subjects), where the analyst would attempt to integrate these repressions into the conscious mind of the patient by force, has fallen out of favour - it is now seen that the permissive style, in which the therapist tries to help the patient realise things themselves without use of force, is a much healthier approach for the average person (though there are still some cases where the directive style can be more effective). The former's effects can be seen in GR when, after many sessions with Freud, Greta's darkest parts of her unconscious mind rise up and she begins murdering children. Pynchon links Freud's repressions to trauma carried down by Jews from life under the Romans, and elsewhere, slavery under the Ancient Egyptians, which is fundamental to their religious texts (linked itself with attitudes and trauma in the black population about the more recent black slavery).
The trouble with Sigmund was the place he happened to be living in, a drafty, crenelated deformity overlooking a cold little lake in the Bavarian Alps. Parts of it must have dated back to the fall of Rome. That was where Sigmund brought her.
She had got the idea somewhere that she was part Jewish. Things in Germany by then, as everyone knows, were very bad. Margherita was terrified of being “found out.” She heard Gestapo in every puff of air that slipped in, among any of a thousand windways of dilapidation. Sigmund spent whole nights trying to talk it away. He was no better at it than Rollo. It was around this time that her symptoms began.
However psychogenic these pains, tics, hives and nauseas, her suffering was real. Acupuncturists came down by Zeppelin from Berlin, showing up in the middle of the night with little velvet cases full of gold needles. Viennese analysts, Indian holy men, Baptists from America trooped in and out of Sigmund’s castle, stage-hypnotists and Colombian curanderos slept on the rug in front of the fireplace. Nothing worked. Sigmund grew alarmed, and before long as ready as Margherita to hallucinate. Probably it was she who suggested Bad Karma. It had a reputation that summer for its mud, hot and greasy mud with traces of radium, jet black, softly bubbling. Ah. Anyone who’s been sick in that way can imagine her hope. That mud would cure anything. Where was anybody that summer before the War? Dreaming. The spas that summer, the summer Ensign Morituri came to Bad Karma, were crowded with sleepwalkers. Nothing for him to do at the Embassy. They suggested a holiday till September. He should have known something was up, but he only went on holiday to Bad Karma—spent the days drinking Pilsener Urquelle in the cafe by the lake in the Pavilion Park. He was a stranger, half the time drunk, silly beer-drunk, and he hardly spoke their language. But what he saw must have been going on all over Germany. A premeditated frenzy.
This is a similar process to what Slothrop goes through in the Abreaction Ward, when under sodium amytal ("truth serum") and the supervision of psychoanalysts, Slothrop explores the parts of his unconscious that he has repressed, including his feelings towards race and homosexuality.
PISCES: We want to talk some more about Boston today, Slothrop. You recall that we were talking last time about the Negroes, in Roxbury. Now we know it’s not all that comfortable for you, but do try, won’t you. Now—where are you, Slothrop? Can you see anything?
Slothrop: Well no, not see exactly...
By the presence of Red (Malcolm X) in the scene where Slothrop flees the black men at the jazz club trying to rape him down the toilet (which leads through a trip not only through Slothrop's own unconscious racism but also through the repressed histories, all the Preterite lost and forgotten.
Either he lets the harp go, his silver chances of song, or he has to follow. Follow? Red, the Negro shoeshine boy, waits by his dusty leather seat. The Negroes all over wasted Roxbury wait. Follow? “Cherokee” comes wailing up from the dance floor below, over the hi-hat, the string bass, the thousand sets of feet where moving rose lights suggest not pale Harvard boys and their dates, but a lotta dolled-up redskins. The song playing is one more lie about white crimes. But more musicians have floundered in the channel to “Cherokee” than have got through from end to end.
Here, among other things, if we consider Slothrop's mouth harp a (Rilke-referencing) metaphor, in part, for Pynchon's own tools of artistry, I feel like these floundering musicians can be seen as other writers who have not come to terms with the darkest parts of history, and thus their own unconscious. And the decision to delve into these things as an artist necessitates exposing one's own unconscious repressions, which causes you to be in a vulnerable position - particularly since They like to use these aspects of people to control them, as with Prentice and the drawing of the Scorpia Mossmoon lookalike he is given to activate the Kryptosam. In Pynchon's case, this means exposing his own racism and homophobia:
If Slothrop follows that harp down the toilet it’ll have to be headfirst, which is not so good, cause it leaves his ass up in the air helpless, and with Negroes around that’s just what a fella doesn’t want, his face down in some fetid unknown darkness and brown fingers, strong and sure, all at once undoing his belt, unbuttoning his fly, strong hands holding his legs apart—and he feels the cold Lysol air on his thighs as down come the boxer shorts too, now, with the colorful bass lures and trout flies on them. He struggles to work himself farther into the toilet hole as dimly, up through the smelly water, comes the sound of a whole dark gang of awful Negroes come yelling happily into the white men’s room, converging on poor wriggling Slothrop, jiving around the way they do singing, “Slip the talcum to me, Malcolm!” [*] And the voice that replies is who but that Red, the shoeshine boy who’s slicked up Slothrop’s black patents a dozen times down on his knees jes poppin’ dat rag to beat the band... now Red the very tall, skinny, extravagantly conked redhead Negro shoeshine boy who’s just been “Red” to all the Harvard fellas—“Say Red, any of those Sheiks in the drawer?” “How ’bout another luck-changin’ phone number there, Red?”—this Negro whose true name now halfway down the toilet comes at last to Slothrop’s hearing—as a thick finger with a gob of very slippery jelly or cream comes sliding down the crack now toward his asshole, chevroning the hairs along like topo lines up a river valley—the true name is Malcolm, and all the black cocks know him, Malcolm, have known him all along—Red Malcolm the Unthinkable Nihilist sez, “Good golly he sure is all asshole ain’t he?” Jeepers Slothrop, what a position for you to be in! Even though he has succeeded in getting far enough down now so that only his legs protrude and his buttocks heave and wallow just under the level of the water like pallid domes of ice. Water splashes, cold as the rain outside, up the walls of the white bowl. “Grab him ’fo’ he gits away!” “Yowzah!” Distant hands clutch after his calves and ankles, snap his garters and tug at the argyle sox Mom knitted for him to go to Harvard in, but these insulate so well, or he has progressed so far down the toilet by now, that he can hardly feel the hands at all...
GR can be seen even as a process of abreaction that Pynchon underwent. If the rumours that he used drugs through writing it are true, then that would mean exposing things in him unconscious even to himself while writing it. Worth at this point also to note Jung's criticisms of Freud's use of abreaction, and thus the possible dangers of doing this.
Though traumata of clearly aetiological significance were occasionally present, the majority of them appeared very improbable. Many traumata were so unimportant, even so normal, that they could be regarded at most as a pretext for the neurosis. But what especially aroused my criticism was the fact that not a few traumata were simply inventions of fantasy and had never happened at all.
However, as Daoism asserts, light and darkness is in everything. For the Pavlovian Pointsman, who views things in binary, this is impossible to accept - the idea that for between every extreme - like black and white - lies a spectrum, a continuous rainbow. As Western humans understand things through this differentiation and analysis, this continuity causes an inherent conflict. Pointsman, the pure cause-and-effect man, the "Antimexico" (since Mexico, the statistician who thinks all can be explained through independent variables and probability distributions, takes the opposite position), says this on Daoist thinking early on.
“Pierre Janet —sometimes the man talked like an Oriental mystic. He had no real grasp of the opposites. ‘The act of injuring and the act of being injured are joined in the behavior of the whole injury.’ Speaker and spoken-of, master and slave, virgin and seducer, each pair most conveniently coupled and inseparable—The last refuge of the incorrigibly lazy, Mexico, is just this sort of yang-yin rubbish.
But by the end of Beyond the Zero, he's having a breakdown, as his unconscious is trying to tell him the truth of the Daoist wisdom he was so quick to reject in his scientific arrogance.
“Talking to myself, here. Little—sort of—eccentricity, heh, heh.”
“Yang and Yin,” whispers the Voice, “Yang and Yin... .”
With all that out of the way, the plot of what GR is actually about can perhaps begin to be discussed. I'm going to make a lot of assumptions here that many of the male characters are based on Pynchon himself. You may disagree with this approach, which is very understandable, given my total lack of evidence. My justification for it is the following passages from Slothrop's trip down the toilet:
Here now is Crutchfield or Crouchfield, the westwardman. Not “archetypical” westwardman, but the only. Understand, there was only one. There was only one Indian who ever fought him. Only one fight, one victory, one loss. And only one president, and one assassin, and one election. True. One of each of everything. You had thought of solipsism, and imagined the structure to be populated—on your level—by only, terribly, one. No count on any other levels. But it proves to be not quite that lonely. Sparse, yes, but a good deal better than solitary. One of each of everything’s not so bad. Half an Ark’s better than none.
Then slightly later on:
Isn’t there supposed to be only one of each?
A. Yes.
Q. Then one Indian girl...
A. One pure Indian. One mestiza. One criolla. [*] Then: one Yaqui. One Navaho. One Apache—
Q. Wait a minute, there was only one Indian to begin with. The one that Crutchfield killed.
A. Yes. Look on it as an optimization problem. The country can best support only one of each.
Q. Then what about all the others? Boston. London. The ones who live in cities. Are those people real, or what?
A. Some are real, and some aren’t.
Q. Well are the real ones necessary? or unnecessary?
A. It depends what you have in mind.
Q. Shit, I don’t have anything in mind.
A. We do.
However, given the extent to which Pynchon has managed to keep his life quiet, I'm aware that this assumption could be projection from me. I think might be by design of the book though:
“Pre cise-ly why,” leaps Rozsavolgyi, “we are now proposing, to give, Slothrop a com plete- ly dif-ferent sort, of test. We are now de sign- ing for him, a so called, ‘projec-tive’ test. The most famil-iar exam- ple of the type, is the Rorschach ink-blot. The ba- sic theory, is that when given an un struc-tured stimulus, some shape-less blob of exper-ience, the subject, will seek to impose, struc- ture on it. How, he goes a -bout struc-turing this blob, will reflect his needs, his hopes—will pro vide, us with clues, to his dreams, fan- tasies , the deepest re-gions of his mind.”
With those disclaimers out the way, here's what I think. I think Mexico is the "cheap nihilist" of Pynchon as a younger man, before he's delved into his own darkness, and still very much without belief in any sort of spiritualism:
“It makes no sense unless we also consider those who’ve passed over to the other side. We do transact with them, don’t we? Through specialists like Eventyr and their controls over there. But all together we form a single subculture, a psychical community, if you will.”
“I won’t,” Mexico says dryly, “but yes I suppose someone ought to be looking into it.”
Pointsman is his analytical side, obsessed with cause-and-effect, which eventually, he comes to realise, necessitates delving in the darkest regions of Slothrop's mind, but still obsessed with control, never losing control:
Sign and symptoms. Was Spectro right? Could Outside and Inside be part of the same field? If only in fairness... in fairness... Pointsman ought to be seeking the answer at the interface... oughtn’t he... on the cortex of Lieutenant Slothrop. The man will suffer—perhaps, in some clinical way, be destroyed—but how many others tonight are suffering in his name? For pity’s sake, every day in Whitehall they’re weighing and taking risks that make his, in this, seem almost trivial. Almost. There’s something here, too transparent and swift to get a hold on—Psi Section might speak of ectoplasms—but he knows that the time has never been better, and that the exact experimental subject is in his hands. He must seize now, or be doomed to the same stone hallways, whose termination he knows. But he must remain open—even to the possibility that the Psi people are right. “We may all be right,” he puts in his journal tonight, “so may be all we have speculated, and more. Whatever we may find, there can be no doubt that he is, physiologically, historically, a monster. We must never lose control. The thought of him lost in the world of men, after the war, fills me with a deep dread I cannot extinguish...”
Prentice, the employee, the seasoned intelligence veteran, strikes me as a maturation from Pynchon's earlier Mexico phase, into a more realistic and experienced person and, by the time he gets into the Counterforce, "activist". This could be projection but given that the book was written from around the mid-60s until 1973, and how much changed in that time, I feel like this could be based on his own experiences with political activism in California around that time. Might be totally wrong about that, but I just got that impression from reading the weird "interview" towards the end of the book with the Wall Street Journal between the interviewer and the "spokesman for the Counterforce". Who knows, read it again and see what you think.
And Slothrop, the experimental subject, is a model of Pynchon himself, rather than a differentiated portion of his own psyche which he turned into a character.
So, what I think is going on:
PISCES is using Slothrop (conditioned by Jamf) to exploit the racism of the Germans in psychological warfare with the whole Schwarzkommando thing. Pointsman is following his own pathological drive to analyse every facet of Slothrop's psyche. This includes Bloat taking photographs of Slothrop's map of girls linked to rockets, which we find out later might partly be falsified, which I interpret perhaps as Pynchon's recognition of his own attempt to impose his sexual interpretation system onto the world at large - interestingly something touched on early on in Bleeding Edge, though I can't find the passage right now, he quietly references the sexual hysterias of youth or something like that.
Prentice is an employee of the Firm, a greater They than either PISCES or Pointsman, using his ability to have other people's fantasies, notionally for Pointsman, but really for some even grander scheme. This is reflected in the discussion of the message which Prentice picks up from the rocket which he and Slothrop see at the beginning of the book. From the Kryptosam message with the Scorpia lookalike:
Slowly then, a revelation through the nacreous film of his seed, in Negro-brown, comes his message: put in a simple Nihilist transposition whose keywords he can almost guess. Most of it he does in his head. There is a time given, a place, a request for help. He burns the message, fallen on him from higher than Earth’s atmosphere, salvaged from Earth’s prime meridian, keeps the picture, hmm, and washes his hands. His prostate is aching. There is more to this than he can see. He has no recourse, no appeal: he has to go over there and bring the operative out again. The message is tantamount to an order from the highest levels.
This "highest orders" thing can be compared with Slothrop seeing the hand of God pointing down at him.
There is in his history, and likely, God help him, in his dossier, a peculiar sensitivity to what is revealed in the sky. (But a hardon?) On the old schist of a tombstone in the Congregational churchyard back home in Mingeborough, Massachusetts, [*] the hand of God emerges from a cloud, the edges of the figure here and there eroded by 200 years of seasons’ fire and ice chisels at work, and the inscription reading:
In Memory of Constant
Slothrop, who died March
ye 4th 1766, in ye 29th
year of his age.
Death is a debt to nature due,
Which I have paid, and so must you.
...
6:43:16 BDST—in the sky right now here is the same unfolding, just about to break through, his face deepening with its light, everything about to rush away and he to lose himself, just as his countryside has ever proclaimed... slender church steeples poised up and down all these autumn hillsides, white rockets about to fire, only seconds of countdown away, rose windows taking in Sunday light, elevating and washing the faces above the pulpits defining grace, swearing this is how it does happen—yes the great bright hand reaching out of the cloud...
I think Pynchon recognised that with his unique abilities, perception, intelligence, and even privilege, it was his duty to delve into these hidden histories and play his role in bringing about this integration of the darkest levels of the unconscious. But Beyond the Zero is all about systems, and as Pynchon is well aware all systems are inherently limited because there are irrational elements in the world. So after this we have the briefer section in the Casino Hermann Goering, where the role of chance - or fate, depending on your interpretation - is recognised, and systems are examined, particularly language systems, like the drinking game Prince. So after that, with the third part, In the Zone, I think he may have been using drugs and various other techniques to bring out unconscious things in himself, to get past these conscious systems. And then completed with the Tarot reading performed at the end, where it says "here are the cards, exactly as they came up" - I think it's very possible that he did an actual Tarot reading at this point. Maybe I'm wrong about this though, I don't want to make too many assumptions given the lack of information we really have on him. If that thing with the drugs is true, it would explain that infamous quote Jules Seigal attributed to him, "I was so fucked up while I was writing it... that now I go back over some of those sequences and I can't figure out what I could have meant." But it's unclear whether that quote is real or not.
How does this play into politics? I've written far too much already, but I'll just leave things with a couple more quotes and the observation that the final part, the Counterforce, contains some very valid criticisms of the countercultural movement as it manifested in the 60s through 70s. There's this critical passage when Enzian is motorbiking around the Zone, high on Pervitins, and realises that everything has come together for this. There's definitely a sense that Pynchon is acknowledging here the importance of his work, the fact it has done things that no other book had before. But in it too there's also, in it, the mocking of the temptation to view everything as an ordered conspiracy, and not acknowledge the non-rational and non-causal forces also at work, and mocking of his own self-seriousness.
There doesn’t exactly dawn, no but there breaks, as that light you’re afraid will break some night at too deep an hour to explain away—there floods on Enzian what seems to him an extraordinary understanding. This serpentine slagheap he is just about to ride into now, this ex-refinery, Jamf Ölfabriken Werke AG, is not a ruin at all. It is in perfect working order. Only waiting for the right connections to be set up, to be switched on... modified, precisely, deliberately by bombing that was never hostile, but part of a plan both sides—”sides?” —had always agreed on... yes and now what if we—all right, say we are supposed to be the Kabbalists out here, say that’s our real Destiny, to be the scholar-magicians of the Zone, with somewhere in it a Text, to be picked to pieces, annotated, explicated, and masturbated till it’s all squeezed limp of its last drop... well we assumed—natürlich!—that this holy Text had to be the Rocket, orururumo orunene the high, rising, dead, the blazing, the great one (“orunene” is already being modified by the Zone-Herero children to “omunene,” the eldest brother)... our Torah. What else? Its symmetries, its latencies, the cuteness of it enchanted and seduced us while the real Text persisted, somewhere else, in its darkness, our darkness... even this far from Südwest we are not to be spared the ancient tragedy of lost messages, a curse that will never leave us... . But, if I’m riding through it, the Real Text, right now, if this is it... or if I passed it today somewhere in the devastation of Hamburg, breathing the ashdust, missing it completely... if what the IG built on this site were not at all the final shape of it, but only an arrangement of fetishes, come-ons to call down special tools in the form of 8th AF bombers yes the “Allied” planes all would have been, ultimately, IG-built, by way of Director Krupp, through his English interlocks—the bombing was the exact industrial process of conversion, each release of energy placed exactly in space and time, each shock-wave plotted in advance to bring precisely tonight’s wreck into being thus decoding the Text, thus coding, recoding, redecoding the holy Text... If it is in working order, what is it meant to do? The engineers who built it as a refinery never knew there were any further steps to be taken. Their design was “finalized,” and they could forget it. It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted... secretly, it was being dictated instead by the needs of technology... by a conspiracy between human beings and techniques, by something that needed the energy-burst of war, crying, “Money be damned, the very life of [insert name of Nation] is at stake,” but meaning, most likely, dawn is nearly here, I need my night’s blood, my funding, funding, ahh more, more... . The real crises were crises of allocation and priority, not among firms—it was only staged to look that way—but among the different Technologies, Plastics, Electronics, Aircraft, and their needs which are understood only by the ruling elite...
Yes but Technology only responds (how often this argument has been iterated, dogged and humorless as a Gaussian reduction, among the younger Schwarzkommando especially), “All very well to talk about having a monster by the tail, but do you think we’d’ve had the Rocket if someone, some specific somebody with a name and a penis hadn’t wanted to chuck a ton of Amatol 300 miles and blow up a block full of civilians? Go ahead, capitalize the T on technology, deify it if it’ll make you feel less responsible—but it puts you in with the neutered, brother, in with the eunuchs keeping the harem of our stolen Earth for the numb and joyless hardens of human sultans, human elite with no right at all to be where they are—”
We have to look for power sources here, and distribution networks we were never taught, routes of power our teachers never imagined, or were encouraged to avoid... we have to find meters whose scales are unknown in the world, draw our own schematics, getting feedback, making connections, reducing the error, trying to learn the real function... zeroing in on what incalculable plot?
Up here, on the surface, coaltars, hydrogenation, synthesis were always phony, dummy functions to hide the real, the planetary mission yes perhaps centuries in the unrolling... this ruinous plant, waiting for its Kabbalists and new alchemists to discover the Key, teach the mysteries to others...
And if it isn’t exactly Jamf Ölfabriken Werke? what if it’s the Krupp works in Essen, what if it’s Blohm & Voss right here in Hamburg or another make-believe “ruin,” in another city? Another country? YAAAGGGGHHHHH!
Well, this is stimulant talk here, yes Enzian’s been stuffing down Nazi surplus Pervitins these days like popcorn at the movies, and by now the bulk of the refinery—named, incidentally, for the famous discoverer of Oneirine—is behind them, and Enzian is on into some other paranoid terror, talking, talking, though each man’s wind and motor cuts him off from conversation.
Some words of wisdom from the seasoned veteran Prentice:
“You’re a novice paranoid, Roger,” first time Prentice has ever used his Christian name and it touches Roger enough to check his tirade. “Of course a well-developed They-system is necessary—but it’s only half the story. For every They there ought to be a We. In our case there is. Creative paranoia means developing at least as thorough a We-system as a They-system—”
“Wait, wait, first where’s the Haig and Haig, be a gracious host, second what is a ‘They-system,’ I don’t pull Chebychev’s Theorem on you, do I?”
“I mean what They and Their hired psychiatrists call ‘delusional systems.’
Needless to say, ‘delusions’ are always officially defined. We don’t have to worry about questions of real or unreal. They only talk out of expediency. It’s the system that matters. How the data arrange themselves inside it. Some are consistent, others fall apart. Your idea that Pointsman sent Gloaming takes a wrong fork. Without any contrary set of delusions—delusions about ourselves, which I’m calling a We-system—the Gloaming idea might have been all right—”
“Delusions about ourselves?”
“Not real ones.”
“But officially defined.”
“Out of expediency, yes.”
“Well, you’re playing Their game, then.”
“Don’t let it bother you. You’ll find you can operate quite well. Seeing as we haven’t won yet, it isn’t really much of a problem.”
Roger is totally confused.
And finally, amid all this darkness, in a superlatively dark book, some hope at last, to hold onto, that makes life worth living, and why I think that despite what many say, GR is not a nihilistic work at all (Tchitcherine, the born nihilist, is almost a parody of this position). It starts with Slothrop's awakening to nature:
Trees, now—Slothrop’s intensely alert to trees, finally. When he comes in among trees he will spend time touching them, studying them, sitting very quietly near them and understanding that each tree is a creature, carrying on its individual life, aware of what’s happening around it, not just some hunk of wood to be cut down. Slothrop’s family actually made its money killing trees, amputating them from their roots, chopping them up, grinding them to pulp, bleaching that to paper and getting paid for this with more paper. “That’s really insane.” He shakes his head. “There’s insanity in my family.” He looks up. The trees are still. They know he’s there. They probably also know what he’s thinking. “I’m sorry,” he tells them. “I can’t do anything about those people, they’re all out of my reach. What can I do?” A medium-size pine nearby nods its top and suggests, “Next time you come across a logging operation out here, find one of their tractors that isn’t being guarded, and take its oil filter with you. That’s what you can do.”
And then, after Slothrop's harp makes its trip down the toilet, and through all of the darkness of the book until that point, where does it next show up? After he draws a rocket mandala, scrawls Rocketman was here on a wall, after the sequence with the Magician using black magic and a mandrake to multiply money, and a delegate from the Committee on Idiopathic Archetypes shows up to visit:
Crosses, swastikas, Zone-mandalas, how can they not speak to Slothrop? He’s sat in Säure Bummer’s kitchen, the air streaming with kif moires, reading soup recipes and finding in every bone and cabbage leaf paraphrases of himself... news flashes, names of wheelhorses that will pay him off enough for a certain getaway... . He used to pick and shovel at the spring roads of Berkshire, April afternoons he’s lost, “Chapter 81 work,” they called it, following the scraper that clears the winter’s crystal attack-from-within, its white necropolizing... picking up rusted beer cans, rubbers yellow with preterite seed, Kleenex wadded to brain shapes hiding preterite snot, preterite tears, newspapers, broken glass, pieces of automobile, days when in superstition and fright he could make it all fit, seeing clearly in each an entry in a record, a history: his own, his winter’s, his country’s... instructing him, dunce and drifter, in ways deeper than he can explain, have been faces of children out the train windows, two bars of dance music somewhere, in some other street at night, needles and branches of a pine tree shaken clear and luminous against night clouds, one circuit diagram out of hundreds in a smudged yellowing sheaf, laughter out of a cornfield in the early morning as he was walking to school, the idling of a motorcycle at one duskheavy hour of the summer... and now, in the Zone, later in the day he became a crossroad, after a heavy rain he doesn’t recall, Slothrop sees a very thick rainbow here, a stout rainbow cock driven down out of pubic clouds into Earth, green wet valleyed Earth, and his chest fills and he stands crying, not a thing in his head, just feeling natural...
And later:
Slothrop moseys down the trail to a mountain stream where he’s left his harp to soak all night, wedged between a couple of rocks in a quiet pool. ... Through the flowing water, the holes of the old Hohner Slothrop found are warped one by one, squares being bent like notes, a visual blues being played by the clear stream.
There are harpmen and dulcimer players in all the rivers, wherever water moves. Like that Rilke prophesied,
And though Earthliness forget you,
To the stilled Earth say: I flow.
To the rushing water speak: I am.
It is still possible, even this far out of it, to find and make audible the spirits of lost harpmen. Whacking the water out of his harmonica, reeds singing against his leg, picking up the single blues at bar 1 of this morning’s segment, Slothrop, just suckin’ on his harp, is closer to being a spiritual medium than he’s been yet, and he doesn’t even know it.
There's hope after all, and I think it's reflected in how much more positive all his later works have been. Thanks so much for reading, I hope it was at least vaguely interesting, not too much of an unstructured ramble. Also, this is such a great subreddit, really I love the community here. My very best to you all!
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  3. 1357 points, 36 submissions: Bede_the_Venerable
    1. Notre Dame update: the interior appears substantially intact! (102 points, 13 comments)
    2. St David's Cathedral, Pembrokeshire, Wales. Posted solely because it's beautiful. (87 points, 6 comments)
    3. Motivation from Thomas CANmer (82 points, 11 comments)
    4. It's easy to forget in this subreddit that when you say 'Anglican' to a significant chunk of British people this is their first thought: (75 points, 39 comments)
    5. Not that this sub skews a bit Anglo-Catholic or anything... (71 points, 7 comments)
    6. You zany Episcopalians, what are you like, eh? (66 points, 70 comments)
    7. How to satisfy your Marian tendencies when your parish isn't into it: (59 points, 18 comments)
    8. This time last year we were in the middle of a cold snap up in North-East England. It did lead to some heavenly moments, though. (59 points, 13 comments)
    9. It’s a wonderful evening here, I thought I’d share it with you all. (58 points, 7 comments)
    10. I turned the list of provinces by population on Wikipedia into a pie chart. (42 points, 18 comments)
  4. 1122 points, 36 submissions: WhiteTwink
    1. When you have Baptist parents (107 points, 10 comments)
    2. When a Low Churchman visits this subreddit (80 points, 48 comments)
    3. A mystery that may never be solved (74 points, 32 comments)
    4. Ven. Archbishop Fulton Sheen (62 points, 5 comments)
    5. 10/10 would do again (48 points, 8 comments)
    6. For born unto in the City of David a savior, which is Christ the Lord. Gloria in Excelsis Deo! Christ was, and is, and is to come! (43 points, 0 comments)
    7. The real problems of church life (34 points, 8 comments)
    8. Today, one century ago the most bloody (percentage wise) war that ever ravaged our fragile home ended. Please pray for all the souls of those who lost their lives in this tragedy. (34 points, 8 comments)
    9. Are memes allowed here? (33 points, 11 comments)
    10. Happy Pentecost (33 points, 0 comments)
  5. 720 points, 24 submissions: OhioTry
    1. Archbishop Justin Welby: "It is deeply disturbing that the President of the United States has chosen to amplify the voice of far-right extremists." (138 points, 50 comments)
    2. CANA bishop denounces "prosperity gospel" heresy - Anglican Ink © 2019 (57 points, 2 comments)
    3. I stepped down as a mod last night. (meta) (55 points, 7 comments)
    4. Presiding Bishop Michael Curry was installed Sunday as the first black leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church (38 points, 2 comments)
    5. TIL that The Cathedral of St John the Divine is listed in the 1939 edition of the Negro Motorist's Green Book as a New York City institution that welcomed African American visitors. (35 points, 2 comments)
    6. Anglicans in Queensland have had enough of global warming + Australian summer. X-post from /Australia (34 points, 1 comment)
    7. Church of England demands ban on anti-gay conversion therapy (32 points, 0 comments)
    8. I'm posting the highlights real from Archbishop Welby's enthronement here because it didn't do well on /Christianity. This is a small sub, but it will be of interest to everyone here, I think. (27 points, 0 comments)
    9. The Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion) has a very active YouTube channel. (26 points, 2 comments)
    10. Confederate Flag Images Quietly Removed from Washington National Cathedral (23 points, 36 comments)
  6. 699 points, 28 submissions: WpgDipper
    1. If we do not resist evil, we do not follow Jesus: A response to Charlottesville (53 points, 9 comments)
    2. Britain’s direct complicity in the war in Yemen must end: Rowan Williams (45 points, 8 comments)
    3. Trans people are welcomed by Church of England members (43 points, 16 comments)
    4. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle ask US Presiding Bishop Michael Curry to preach at wedding (40 points, 18 comments)
    5. Went to Episcopal church today and thoroughly loved it (37 points, 7 comments)
    6. Archbishop of Canterbury on Trump-backing Christians: ’I really genuinely do not understand’ (33 points, 25 comments)
    7. Statute of Limitations on Sexual Misconduct Claims Against ECUSA Clergy to Be Suspended as of January 1 (31 points, 5 comments)
    8. How the 'Book of Common Prayer' Became a Modern Worship Album (29 points, 10 comments)
    9. Young people hear the call to rejuvenate ageing priesthood: Big rise in younger ordinands after fears that no one would replace the quarter of English Anglican vicars near retirement (29 points, 0 comments)
    10. Trump refuses to say the Apostles' Creed at the Bush funeral service (27 points, 75 comments)
  7. 538 points, 18 submissions: AnglicanPrayerMan
    1. Life as an Episcopal Franciscan Friar Starterpack (65 points, 29 comments)
    2. The faces tourists make when they see me walking in my Franciscan habit as I pass the original Mission Church (built almost 300 years ago) (47 points, 3 comments)
    3. Bishop Frank Weston's famous address to the 1923 Anglo-Catholic Congress. This is where he says, "You cannot claim to worship Jesus in the Tabernacle, if you do not pity Jesus in the slum." (46 points, 2 comments)
    4. Friary Update - One Year In (38 points, 0 comments)
    5. Update on Franciscan religious life (with pictures) (35 points, 5 comments)
    6. Today I was Subdeacon at Mass for the first time! (33 points, 8 comments)
    7. That's it! I'm done! (Sort of) (31 points, 5 comments)
    8. We’re getting to new novices! (29 points, 2 comments)
    9. I’m extremely disappointed in the lack of charity illustrated by priests and attendees at GC based off what they are saying online. (28 points, 37 comments)
    10. To the number of people recently asking what Anglicans believe (26 points, 24 comments)
  8. 472 points, 16 submissions: banqu0s_gh0st
    1. A photo inside La Sagrada Familia, Barcelona. (Taken by me) (50 points, 17 comments)
    2. Thr Queens Christmas message, its amazing (50 points, 41 comments)
    3. An interesting style of stained glass I found in York minster (44 points, 2 comments)
    4. Please pray for me (42 points, 15 comments)
    5. A Methodist church that me and my family go to when on holiday (40 points, 15 comments)
    6. What do people think of this stained glass in my local church? (39 points, 18 comments)
    7. Please pray for my persistent ear infections to stop. (26 points, 5 comments)
    8. Found this in my estate. Thought I might share :D (25 points, 8 comments)
    9. I went to another Methodist church! Lovely people and food for a coffee morning (25 points, 5 comments)
    10. I visited this lovely little Anglican church in Durham, one of the stained glass windows (22 points, 8 comments)
  9. 416 points, 12 submissions: KarlBarthMallCop
    1. To the parents of our young children, may we suggest... (127 points, 15 comments)
    2. Please pray for Rachel Held Evans (62 points, 11 comments)
    3. Friendly reminder: If you are sick, please stay home (42 points, 21 comments)
    4. I wish our church was like this. (26 points, 10 comments)
    5. Friday 🌶 Take: A social space can either be affirming or non-affirming, but it can't be neither (23 points, 42 comments)
    6. TIL Ann Davis, famous for portraying Alice on The Brady Bunch, joined an Episcopal community shortly after the show's end and remained for 38 years (23 points, 4 comments)
    7. Very Good Sourdough Pancake Recipe (21 points, 0 comments)
    8. Full Communion Proposal Ready for Methodist Bishops (20 points, 53 comments)
    9. [TEC] Who needs a copy of the Book of Common Prayer? (20 points, 27 comments)
    10. In Praise of the Lectionary (19 points, 3 comments)
  10. 376 points, 7 submissions: chaywardthgod
    1. All Anglican Priests know this feeling. (78 points, 3 comments)
    2. Hope ya’ll don’t mind a good ol’ Protestant Reformation meme! (75 points, 10 comments)
    3. I think we can all agree that an Anglican Organist is the loudest thing God ever created. (67 points, 9 comments)
    4. DROPPING ANOTHER FIRE ANGLICAN MEME!!! (66 points, 0 comments)
    5. When the congregation forgets not to say alleluia. (34 points, 11 comments)
    6. GET REKT ROMAN GUARDS (32 points, 2 comments)
    7. JESUS IS RISEN! (24 points, 0 comments)
  11. 366 points, 15 submissions: Come-My-Fanatics
    1. Church leaders offer prayer and solidarity after New Zealand mosque attacks leaves 49 dead (40 points, 0 comments)
    2. Church of England attacks Home Office for saying Christianity 'not peaceful' to reject asylum seeker (34 points, 13 comments)
    3. Presiding Bishop Michael Curry wins top broadcasting award for Royal Wedding sermon (34 points, 1 comment)
    4. Eucharistic Prayer C - Star Wars Style (29 points, 16 comments)
    5. 'Clergy in Cars’ shows feature Episcopal priests taking their faith talk on the road in Texas - Episcopal News Service (28 points, 4 comments)
    6. anglicanism_irl (26 points, 43 comments)
    7. truly we live in a society (25 points, 12 comments)
    8. On the episcopate (23 points, 45 comments)
    9. Christians face 'imminent extinction' in the Middle East, Archbishop of Canterbury warns (22 points, 8 comments)
    10. Today is the Feast Day of St. Michael and All Angels! (20 points, 1 comment)
  12. 328 points, 5 submissions: ag23thomas
    1. My wife and I were officially Confirmed into the Episcopal Church! (104 points, 33 comments)
    2. I got confirmed today! (90 points, 27 comments)
    3. Happy Trinity Sunday! (70 points, 6 comments)
    4. Happy Pentecost! (45 points, 3 comments)
    5. Do you pray to Saints? (19 points, 30 comments)
  13. 318 points, 11 submissions: VexedCoffee
    1. I'm back from my Lenten fast and I'm a deacon now! (106 points, 18 comments)
    2. Gay Marriage does pass in ACoC. There was a miscount in the order of clergy. (43 points, 33 comments)
    3. TIL that there is a tartan designed for Episcopal Clergy (25 points, 0 comments)
    4. [Video] Lambeth’s young monastic community hailed a major success (23 points, 4 comments)
    5. Cuban synod votes to return to Episcopal Church (20 points, 7 comments)
    6. Episcopal Presiding Bishop Michael Curry addresses Syrian refugee crisis: “Be not afraid!” (19 points, 1 comment)
    7. Rowan Williams Interviewed By Church Times (18 points, 2 comments)
    8. Video: Presiding Bishop Curry responds to primates’ actions (18 points, 2 comments)
    9. Bones of Thomas Becket to return to Canterbury - via Hungary (16 points, 1 comment)
    10. The Community of St Mary, an Episcopal religious order for women, is having a vocations discovery program June 3-10. (16 points, 2 comments)
  14. 316 points, 12 submissions: _dpk
    1. An Order for the Orderly Disposal of a Lemon Pig (54 points, 7 comments)
    2. Potential ongoing brigading of this sub (50 points, 79 comments)
    3. Millennials shun modern liturgy for ‘bells and smells’ [article in comments] (36 points, 20 comments)
    4. Wednesday hot-take hot take: ‘hot take’ threads are bad and the moderators should ban or restrict them (24 points, 42 comments)
    5. What are we to do about the decline of the Church? (23 points, 94 comments)
    6. How was church? (Advent II) (22 points, 31 comments)
    7. How was church (16 Sept. 2018) (21 points, 49 comments)
    8. Why is the word ‘holy’ missing from ‘one catholick and apostolick church’ in the 1662 Book of Common Prayer’s Nicene Creed? (20 points, 2 comments)
    9. Finding, not fixing: We don’t need prayer book revision in the church; we need prayer book recovery (18 points, 5 comments)
    10. How was church? (First Sunday after the Epiphany) (17 points, 26 comments)
  15. 272 points, 14 submissions: diverseandsundry
    1. [Urgent prayer request] For HM Government, Parliament and Brexit. (28 points, 14 comments)
    2. Archbishop of Dublin welcomes return of stolen crusader head. (25 points, 0 comments)
    3. Anglican Orders may not be invalid says Cardinal in charge of legislative texts. (24 points, 23 comments)
    4. Anglican Myths (20 points, 82 comments)
    5. CoE: come and confess your sins but we might have to report you to the Police (20 points, 87 comments)
    6. Living with Cranmer’s Lectionary (19 points, 8 comments)
    7. "I timed the sermon at seven minutes" - The Presiding Bishop on Radio 5 (18 points, 21 comments)
    8. Should Deplorables receive Holy Communion? (18 points, 17 comments)
    9. Today, the 21st of March, is the Anniversary of the Martyrdom of Thomas Cranmer. (18 points, 23 comments)
    10. The Apostles’ Creed - Not the Nine O’Clock News (17 points, 1 comment)
  16. 240 points, 5 submissions: TECDigitalEvangelist
    1. Would there be interest in an IAmA with Presiding Bishop Curry? (128 points, 45 comments)
    2. The first episode of Presiding Bishop Curry's new Way of Love podcast is available now. Let us know what you think! (34 points, 4 comments)
    3. Someone in another thread hoped for a group of BCP prayers read by Presiding Bishop Curry, like the one in yesterday's @PB_Curry tweet. We have them all collected here. (29 points, 0 comments)
    4. An Invitation to Eucharist - Preview of the How2charist: Digital Instructed Eucharist (26 points, 47 comments)
    5. In the Philadelphia area? The Episcopal Church is looking for folks to join filming for a Digital Instructed Eucharist on Sat., August 25. (23 points, 7 comments)
  17. 236 points, 6 submissions: Flaxmoore
    1. The strange moment of "I am Episcopalian." A thought moment for the converts. (61 points, 23 comments)
    2. Episcopal Church handling allegations of sexual abuse right- open the doors, punish the wrongdoers, no matter how long ago! (48 points, 8 comments)
    3. Being Received as an Episcopalian, considering making it formal. (43 points, 25 comments)
    4. Diocese of Michigan starts Pride Month with a bang- elects Bonnie A. Perry, a happily married lesbian, as 11th bishop (40 points, 62 comments)
    5. Can my wife and the church Search Committee get some prayer? They're interviewing a new priest tonight. (22 points, 2 comments)
    6. Hanging on to my Patron Saint, despite crossing over to the Episcopal side of things. (22 points, 39 comments)
  18. 235 points, 3 submissions: jerzeyjohn
    1. Trinity Episcopal Church (Columbus, OH) (86 points, 6 comments)
    2. Christ Church Cathedral (Nashville, TN) (81 points, 2 comments)
    3. Trinity Episcopal Church (Princeton, NJ) (68 points, 12 comments)
  19. 231 points, 7 submissions: abhd
    1. I attended an Episcopal Inquiry class tonight and they gave me a new BCP and a Walk In Love! (93 points, 10 comments)
    2. Diocese of Chicago Convention text on Resolution G-181: Affirmation of the Inherent Dignity of Transgender and Nonbinary Persons as beloved by God (30 points, 41 comments)
    3. Presiding Bishop’s Pride Month statement honors LGBTQ Episcopalians (25 points, 2 comments)
    4. CNY Episcopal Bishop: Gay marriages still welcome here despite Albany bishop's refusal (23 points, 7 comments)
    5. The Only Way We'll Survive This Thanksgiving (22 points, 1 comment)
    6. [META] Let's give a warm welcome to our new mods! (22 points, 29 comments)
    7. Episcopal Church’s advocacy for LGBTQ people pre-dates Stonewall uprising (16 points, 1 comment)
  20. 226 points, 9 submissions: CiderDrinker
    1. I think I've just been 'born again' after 20 years of completely missing the point. (43 points, 16 comments)
    2. Seven things I like about Anglicanism (feel free to add your own). (38 points, 28 comments)
    3. Anglicans for Christian Socialism (28 points, 106 comments)
    4. Happy Commonwealth Day to all of those who are Commonwealth citizens. (The vast majority of Anglicans worldwide are.) (25 points, 12 comments)
    5. A quick reflection on Notre Dame (22 points, 6 comments)
    6. An Evangelical Anglican, Liberal Anglican, Reformed Anglican, and Catholic Anglican in discussion on what divides and what unites them. (21 points, 25 comments)
    7. Being Anglican and republican (in the 'no king' sense, not the GOP sense) (17 points, 16 comments)
    8. Eucharist is a dangerous thing (16 points, 0 comments)
    9. Livestream of Rachel Held Evans' funeral. Nadia Bolz-Weber preaching; Winnie Verghese presiding. (16 points, 3 comments)
  21. 212 points, 7 submissions: phil701
    1. broadchurch.jpeg (84 points, 10 comments)
    2. Who are some cool people that others might not know are/were Anglican? (25 points, 59 comments)
    3. Friday Hot Take: Praying to saints should be a fully established and integrated part of liturgy. (23 points, 68 comments)
    4. The results of the Marian Survey, for those who want them. Scroll past the questions, select Submit, and then See Previous Responses. (22 points, 50 comments)
    5. A stupid question perhaps: Why do priests wear robes, garments etc. when Jesus wore poor man's clothes? (20 points, 26 comments)
    6. TIL of the Inclusive Orthodoxy movement, which seeks to combine Same Sex Marriage and Ordination of Women with the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic faith. It is led by Episcopal Clergyman Justin R. Cannon. (20 points, 26 comments)
    7. I made a quick survey for your guys' beliefs on Mary, Jesus' Mother. I'd appreciate some input. (18 points, 19 comments)
  22. 204 points, 4 submissions: revtrev92
    1. Praise God! #doxology (62 points, 5 comments)
    2. Worship with a baptism today at my local E.C. parish in Ashland, Kentucky. I took this picture 10 minutes before service so it doesn’t do the crowd justice. Great crowd, great service! (57 points, 12 comments)
    3. Mid-Week Chapel at my Local Parish (56 points, 4 comments)
    4. Conservative Episcopalians? (29 points, 46 comments)
  23. 203 points, 4 submissions: such_reddit_wow
    1. Happy Ascension Day! (70 points, 8 comments)
    2. Happy Ascension Day! (56 points, 11 comments)
    3. Weather Forecast but It's in Anglican Chant (51 points, 3 comments)
    4. Merry Christmas! (26 points, 5 comments)

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  5. OhioTry (1570 points, 456 comments)
  6. yibanghwa (1486 points, 282 comments)
  7. Knopwood (1345 points, 277 comments)
  8. diverseandsundry (984 points, 211 comments)
  9. chillenchillada (974 points, 304 comments)
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  11. KarlBarthMallCop (841 points, 107 comments)
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  18. TotalInstruction (667 points, 90 comments)
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  20. WhiteTwink (614 points, 159 comments)
  21. KonradX (591 points, 121 comments)
  22. liliesofthefield (581 points, 89 comments)
  23. VexedCoffee (552 points, 118 comments)
  24. themsc190 (496 points, 74 comments)
  25. candydaze (493 points, 90 comments)
  26. PersisPlain (489 points, 113 comments)
  27. palaeologos (480 points, 160 comments)
  28. primitive_thisness (458 points, 150 comments)
  29. gnurdette (453 points, 45 comments)
  30. CiderDrinker (432 points, 81 comments)
  31. AnglicanPrayerMan (419 points, 68 comments)
  32. Machinax (407 points, 53 comments)
  33. texanmason (405 points, 90 comments)
  34. BrotherHausel (375 points, 66 comments)
  35. tryingforsomething (361 points, 105 comments)
  36. bobo_brizinski (359 points, 74 comments)
  37. Ghibellines (351 points, 87 comments)
  38. elrealvisceralista (333 points, 79 comments)
  39. sl150 (331 points, 44 comments)
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  42. phil701 (313 points, 56 comments)
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  2. Would there be interest in an IAmA with Presiding Bishop Curry? by TECDigitalEvangelist (128 points, 45 comments)
  3. To the parents of our young children, may we suggest... by KarlBarthMallCop (127 points, 15 comments)
  4. When you have Baptist parents by WhiteTwink (107 points, 10 comments)
  5. I'm back from my Lenten fast and I'm a deacon now! by VexedCoffee (106 points, 18 comments)
  6. My wife and I were officially Confirmed into the Episcopal Church! by ag23thomas (104 points, 33 comments)
  7. I was confirmed in the beautiful Ely cathedral yesterday :) by harryeu2 (104 points, 7 comments)
  8. Notre Dame update: the interior appears substantially intact! by Bede_the_Venerable (102 points, 13 comments)
  9. Get Your Ash In Church by bmcginnis47 (98 points, 6 comments)
  10. I attended an Episcopal Inquiry class tonight and they gave me a new BCP and a Walk In Love! by abhd (93 points, 10 comments)

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2019.03.06 02:03 tombstoneshadows28 Every horror film listed on IMDB for the calendar year 2019 (grouped by current state of completion as of time of this posting.) (Part 2 of 2)

Released (theatrically, on festival circuit, cable, streaming, PPV) thus far in 2019
  1. Demons (2019/14m/Daniel Lopez Nelson)
  2. Rehabilitation (2019 Video/Justin Knoepfel)
  3. A Momentary Lapse of Anamnesis (2019/13m/Kieran Griffiths)
  4. Curtains (2019/Brian M. Streiff)
  5. 11:11: Apa yang Kau Lihat? (2019/78 min/Andy Manoppo)
  6. The Blind Man's Visions (2019/5 min/Andrew S. Pustea)
  7. Ricky's Barn (2019/Austin Bitikofer and Jermaine Nix)
  8. Pizza Time (2019/6m/Phillip Larsen)
  9. Billie Eilish: Bury a Friend (2019 Video/4m/Michael Chaves)
  10. Dr. Ling's Torture Greenhouse (2019/Louis Timm)
  11. All the Colors of Giallo (2019/89m/Federico Caddeo)
  12. Mine Forever (2019/Ron T. Baker)
  13. Banshee (2019/9m/Nathan Adloff)
  14. Tez: 13. Gece (2019/Taylan Isiklar)
  15. Ready For My Close Up (2019/30m/Jason Read)
  16. Missed Call (2019/Thimmampalli Chandru)
  17. Prema Katha Chithram 2 (2019/Hari Krishna)
  18. You Are Dead (2019 Video/4 min/Michael Kroz)
  19. Lun-Ar Penitentiary (2019/19 min/Allison Albano Knight)
  20. Hideouser and Hideouser (2019/8m/Aria Covamonas
  21. Soul Reaper (2019/84 min /Bob Pipe)
  22. Midnight Snack (2019/J. Martin)
  23. Beneath the Trees (2019/76 min/Marco De Luca)
  24. Killer Skin (2019)
  25. Horrors of the PNW VI (2019/Michelle Nessk)
  26. Tu veux jouer à un JEU? (2019/Jérémie Bertrand)
  27. Karma Chakra (2019/B. Sudhakar Sudarshan Rao and Milind Rokade)
  28. Musabbar (2019/Engin Tutus and Erdal Tutus Sir-Ayet)
  29. Sir-Ayet (2019/Onur Aldogan)
  30. Die letzte Party (2019/4m/Wilda Wahnwitz)
  31. Counting Down the Days (2019/8m/Derek Stockton)
  32. 4th Dimension (2019/Tyler Fordham and David van den Berg)
  33. Contempt (2019/Cole Daniel Hills)
  34. Snap (2019/7 min/Ed Guida)
  35. One: Awaken (2019/10m/Justin Bloodworth)
  36. Hell (2019/5m/Sergey A.)
  37. Stay Away (2019/8m/Xiao Tang)
  38. Legends of Uud - The Calling Voices (2019/6m/Fouad Hajji and Samba Schutte)
  39. Lifeform (2019/Harry Hughes)
  40. Adrushya (2019/15m)
  41. Sweet Dreams (2019/10 min/KC Matthews)
  42. At Two Thirty (2019/90 min/Wang Sai)
  43. Rachell (2019/Julian Edward Harris)
  44. Backwood (2019/3m/Shannon Hutchinson)
  45. Selfie Shots (2019/Michael Tracy)
  46. Kain Kafan Hitam (2019/76 min/Yudhistira Bayuadji and Maxime Bouttier)
  47. Utolsó Estém a Pokolban (2019/Czömpöl Kristóf)
  48. Psycho Sisters: Possessed! (2019/Roland Brown and Pete Jacelone)
  49. Spellbound (2019/18m/HorroSohit Khanna)
  50. Dhilluku Dhuddu 2 (2019/119m/Rambala)
  51. The Foe (2019 Video/2m/Michael Pham)
  52. Collection (2019/Michael Davis, Garrett Julian and Andrew Long)
  53. Bad Blood (2019/5m/Travis Darkow)
  54. Full Moon (2019/14m/Philippe Bazelle)
  55. Muffled Screams (2019/6m/Robert Turnbull)
  56. Bagman Rising (2019/Logan Wilson)
  57. Ester's Entity (2019/Julie Merrick)
  58. Ghost-ed (2019/10m/Jessie Rabideau and Steven Soria)
  59. Gore II (2019/11m/Jerry Collins)
  60. The Light (2019/8m/Kevin Mounce)
  61. Üç Harfliler: Adak (2019/91 min/Alper Mestçi)
  62. Love (2019/Justin Oakley)
  63. The Midnight Jester (2019/4m/Craig Fisher)
  64. Man in my Room (2019/3m/Caleb Heiland)
  65. You've Been Bad (2019/3m/Craig Fisher)
  66. Teen Girl Fight Club (2019 Video/60m)
  67. Hanga Gubbe (2019/3m/Mauricio Molinari)
  68. Welcome to the Madhouse (2019/Marc Zammit)
  69. Sugah Rush (2019)
  70. Cernunnos (2019/14m/Winston Stemler)
  71. Emergency Broadcast (2019/12 min/Nathanial Holt)
  72. Séance (2019/5m/Nick Owens)
  73. Shower (2019/Jesse Haaja)
  74. Mercy (2019/Luis Perez Villegas)
  75. Gipsy Doll (2019/7m/Mauricio Molinari)
  76. Luna (2019/Ben Tefft)
  77. Lost Property (2019/7m/C.J. Barnes)
  78. Embody the Homicide (2019/Seth Jacobs)
  79. Nästet (2019/26m/Erik Hansson)
  80. Forest of Chaos (2019/John H. Shelton)
  81. Satu Suro (2019/94 min/Anggy Umbara)
  82. Thumbs (2019/William Grefé)
  83. Fred Needs a Friend (2019/25m/Turner Munch)
  84. Curse of La Llorona (2019/William Terry)
  85. Local Legends (Reboot) (2019/30 min)
  86. Play or Die (2019/Jacques Kluger)
  87. Zebra (2019/5m/Peter Spann)
  88. Play Date (2019/8m/Herb Cremer and Joe Cremer)
  89. Soul Hunt (2019/3m/Rajesh Rajilal)
  90. The Retreat (2019/Surya Kiran Enjam)
  91. Cabina de la Locura (2019/50 min/Holger Wlodarczak)
  92. Sonic.Exe. (2019/HorroDennis Edwards)
  93. Damned Faustus (2019/5m/Mason W. Shell)
  94. Drop Dead (2019/Drew Bashen)
  95. Don't Drink the Milk (2019/Bill Zebub)
  96. Fármako (2019/7 min/Spencer Welch)
  97. Sonic.Exe (2019/93 min/Dennis Edwards)
  98. Knock Knock Knock (2019/11 min/Colin Hodson)
  99. Herbie (2019/2 min/Miguel Alejandro Marquez)
  100. Chimamire sukeban chênsô red: Kôhen - Gîko no kakusei (2019/Hiroki Yamaguchi)
  101. Every Secret Thing: The Making of KKKillers (2019/Manny Velazquez)
  102. Monster Truck (2019/88m/Daniel Weiss)
  103. The House That Henry Built (2019/7m/Peter Mckeirnon)
  104. Bamboozled (2019/11 min /Lucia Balestrieri and Paolo Tarantini)
  105. Hüddam 2 (2019/92m /Utku Uçar)
  106. Lured (2019/David LI)
  107. Evil Beneath (2019/52m/Brett Gerking)
  108. Dreadout: Tower of Hell (2019/95m/Kimo Stamboel)
  109. Emma (2019/Daniel Glenn-Barbour)
  110. Water Horse (2019/8 min/Sean Temple and Sarah Wisner)
  111. Tembang Lingsir (2019/90 min/Rizal Mantovani Perjanjian Dengan Iblis)
  112. Perjanjian dengan Iblis (2019/80 min /Ardy Octaviand)
  113. Mislaid (2019/7m/Matthew Penado and Chandler Thornton)
  114. PrettyFace (2019/Francesco Depinto)
  115. Rajawali (2019/87m/Mamat Khalid, S. Amin Shahab)
  116. The Aamazyn Killer (2019/John Harper)
  117. Bequeathed (2019/8m/Michael McCallum)
  118. Deprivation (2019/Chris Foster)
  119. Feed Me Death (2019/Matt Devino)
  120. Nu gui ai shang shi (2019/Yew Kwang Han)
  121. The Skies That Bleed (2019/Ricky Jordan Moore)
  122. The Car: Road to Revenge (2019/89m/G.J. Echternkamp)
  123. Ghost (2019/Vikram Bhatt)
  124. Muse (2019/80m/Richard John Taylor)
  125. Grosshouse II (2019/85m/Alex Powers and Doug Waugh)
  126. The Witching Tree (2019/Shelby Jones)
  127. Felina (2019/Sandosh Kesavan)
  128. Moonbow (2019/84 min/William Robert Chadwell)
  129. Appurtenance (2019/20m/Deuandra T. Brown)
  130. Cruel Perfection (2019/10 min/John Strucel)
  131. Eyes at the Specter Glass (2019/12m/Matthew Wade)
  132. Life Lessons (2019/JohnMark Triplett)
  133. See You Soon (2019/Brennan Karem)
  134. The Mark Of Nefarious (2019/Jason Ledford)
  135. Chiroptera (2019/131m/Danial Donai)
  136. The Ratman of Southend (2019/Michael Holiday)
  137. Dollface (2019/11m/Victor Tapia, Darryl Thomas)
  138. Just a Child (2019/Adam Ford)
  139. The Rat (2019/12m/Carlen May-Mann)
  140. Halloween Do you believe in the boogeyman (2019/John Harper)
  141. Abigail (2019/Julian Vetrone)
  142. Hymns of Abarise - Megan (2019/Alex De Luca)
  143. The Killer (2019/Anders Jacobsson and Tomas Sandquist)
  144. Haunted Evil Dead (2019/95 min/Sonny Laguna and Tommy Wiklund)
  145. Last Call (2019/Ronnie L. Cleary)
  146. When Justice Fails (2019/Crissy Kolarik)
  147. I Bind You to Me (2019/Felipe De Vecchi)
  148. She Summoned Him (2019/Chris Sanders)
  149. Suo (2019/42m/Tuomas Anttonen)
  150. Afraid of the Dark (2019 Video/5m/Alicia Eames)
  151. Porcelain (2019)
  152. Knock Knock Knock (2019/Ross Heath and Chris John Livermore)
  153. Pareidolia (2019/11m/Stefan Riesner and Christian Skibinski)
  154. Seton Falls Park (2019/T.S.)
  155. Blood Is Thicker (2019/Shelly Doss)
  156. 29 Needles (2019/95 min/Scott Philip Goergens)
  157. Limbo (2019/45 min/Alfonso Vega)
  158. Ghost in My House (2019/9m/Angel Kunev)
  159. La Faraona (2019/20m/José Paredes)
  160. Please Forgive Me (2019/Marcus Marino)
  161. Seytan Oyunu (2019/90 min/Kadir Genç)
  162. Popsy (2019/Jon Mann)
  163. If Talk Could Kill (2019/Summer Rudas)
  164. Rust (2019/38 min/Joe Lujan)
  165. Están Aquí (2019/Héctor Bravo)
  166. La Paura Trema Contro (2019/74 min/Pupi Oggiano)
  167. Its Finished (2019/Alexzander Rogers)
  168. Born on the 8th of March (2019/104m/HorroLyberis Dionysopoulos)
  169. Kostakurta (Bajka o Satankrajini) (2019/27 min/Sasa Karanovic)
  170. Vampz! (2019/76m/Ramsey Attia)
  171. Wrinkles the Clown (2019/75m/Michael Beach Nichols)
  172. Tabu: Mengusik Gerbang Iblis (2019/96 min/Angling Sagaran)
  173. Latent (2019/Marek Losey)
  174. Beyond the Macabre (2019/John H. Shelton)
  175. Wrong Love (2019/90 min/Brian Frank Visciglia)
  176. Chimamire sukeban chênsô red: Zenpen - Nero no fukushû (2019/Hiroki Yamaguchi)
  177. Water (2019/Phillip Penza)
  178. Rancour (2019/Dane Hallett)
  179. Cuentos Oscuros (2019)
  180. Loveland (2019/67 min/Jeffrey J. Scott)
  181. Inhuman (2019/Zac Loy)
  182. Nightshade (2019/Charles Chudabala)
  183. School-Live! (2019/101m/HorroIssei Shibata)
  184. Decoyed (2019/Pezhmann Mokary)
  185. Malisan (2019/11m/Danilo Beckovic)
  186. All Dressed in White (2019/Jason Wright)
  187. Aye (2019/Violetta Anna Licari)
  188. A Handful of Dust (2019/18 min/Grayson Whitehurst)
  189. Stree 2 (2019/Amar Kaushik)
  190. Convention Bloodbath (2019/20m/Connor Watson)
  191. Forever (2019/David Lamar Watkins II)
  192. Nevrland (2019/88m/Gregor Schmidinger)
  193. It's Not The End (2019/17m/Sydney Perozak)
  194. Cold Feet (2019/Kearney Thompson)
  195. Creature from Cannibal Creek (2019/80 min/John Migliore)
  196. FilmFrights (2019/Manny Velazquez)
  197. Georgie (2019/Ryan Grulich)
  198. God Save the Cat (2019/Ryan Grulich)
  199. The 3rd Eye 2 (2019/116 min/Rocky Soraya)
  200. Scurry (2019/14m/Mike Leffingwell)
  201. Bright Lights, Dark Shadows (2019/Ryan Justice)
  202. Glam (2019/Sam Hodge)
  203. Paranoia: A Friday the 13th Fan Film (2019/20 min/Mason Scott)
  204. Strange Events 2 (2019/Jaysen P. Buterin, Charlie Phoenix, Kayden Phoenix and Ruben Rodriguez)
  205. Tillie (2019/Olivia Anton)
  206. Identity Theft (2019/7m/Michael Davis)
  207. Posljednji Srbin u Hrvatskoj (2019/90m/Predrag Licina)
  208. Just Another Day (2019/7m/Daniel Attrill)
  209. Chromophobia (2019/15m/Keith Adams)
  210. No Way Out (2019/Robert X. Golphin)
  211. Welcome To Paris (2019/13m/HorroJoon Ho Moon)
  212. The Acrylic (2019/Daniel James Pike)
  213. Mercy Black (2019/Owen Egerton)
  214. Canis (2019/20m/Phil Cheney)
  215. Edge of Insanity 2: Age of Madness (2019)
  216. Malus Canetis (2019/6 min/Justice Neyedli)
  217. Segredo Dos Djinn (2019/Rui Constantino)
  218. Incident at Montauk (2019/60 min/Owen Mulligan)
  219. Vi finns kvar (2019/12m/Alexander Rönnberg)
  220. The Fable (2019/Kan Eguchi)
  221. Halloween at Aunt Ethel's (2019/80m/Joseph Mazzaferro)
  222. Le dernier Vermouth (2019/Germain Aguesse)
  223. Wowzers (2019/40m/Ace Thor)
  224. Karma (2019/85 min/Wei-Heng Chung)
  225. ¡Vaya Reparto! (2019/16m/Javier Cobo and Pedro Riutort)
  226. For Summer (2019/11m/Jessie Kirby)
  227. Araf 2 (2019/Biray Dalkiran)
  228. One Night At Villa (2019)
  229. I Know You (2019/Jayveer Panghaal)
  230. The Monster (2019/Neil Stevens)
  231. The Malicious (2019/Noel Vinson)
  232. Teratomorph (2019/35 min/Joe Meredith)
  233. Dark Eyes (2019/Matt Dugan)
  234. Ykcowrebbaj (2019/8m/HorroHelen Hideko)
  235. Old Future: Storm of Stardust (2019/45 min/Nicolas Naranjo)
  236. The Blue Whale (2019/15m/Fahad Olayan)
  237. Pyar Ektarfa (2019/Jai p Mishra)
  238. Amavas (2019/134 min/Bhushan Patel)
  239. Suicide by Sunlight (2019/17 min/Nikyatu Jusu)
  240. Seven Boxes (2019/90 min/Andrew Sean Eltham-Byers)
  241. Corporate Animals (2019/86m/Patrick Brice)
  242. Retukiri Tukiri (2019/19m/Daniel Martín Rodríguez and Germán Tejada)
  243. Automata (2019/95 min/Lawrie Brewster)
  244. Rage Road (2019/Cédric Cremet)
  245. The Hermit (2019/14 min/Nate Schrader)
  246. Blackout (2019/Konstantinos Gourgiotis and George Leontakianakos)
  247. Pee Nak (2019/Achira Nokthet)
  248. The Hunt (2019/Craig Zobel)
  249. Slasher Party (2019/80 min/Tony Villalobos)
  250. Jerome (2019)
  251. Silhouette (2019/Mitch McLeod)
  252. Tell Your Children (2019/Doug Kaufman)
  253. 9: Nine (2019/149 min/Jenuse Mohammed)
  254. Lucero (2019/69m/Norberto Ramos del Val)
  255. The Baby (2019/9m/Sam Nicoresti)
  256. Happy Death Day 2U (2019/PG-13/100m/Christopher Landon)
  257. A-Symmetry (2019/Sam Bradford)
  258. Petra (2019/23m/Andreas Avgousti)
  259. That Night (2019/Joseph R. Davis and Brian Gerson)
  260. Down's Revenge (2019/108m/Lekhraj Patel)
  261. Quiet Comes the Dawn (2019/Pavel Sidorov)
  262. Demon Eye (2019/87 min/Ryan Simons)
  263. Praana (2019/107 min/V.K. Prakash)
  264. The Devil's Lettuce 2: Edible Evil (2019/Adam York)
  265. Derek's Thirteen Nightmares (2019/Pete Jacelone)
  266. Spirits in the Dark (2019/70m/József Gallai)
  267. The Killer Clown Meets the Candy Man (2019/Pete Jacelone)
  268. Char Man (2019/85 min/Kurt Ela and Kipp Tribble)
  269. Jeff Carroll's the Death Pledge (2019/Jeff Carroll)
  270. Here Comes Hell (2019/80m/Jack McHenry)
  271. Feedback (2019/Pedro C. Alonso)
  272. Midnight Games (2019/Katrina Nelson)
  273. X, Por primera vez te enamoraras de un asesino en serie (2019/9m/Raquel Choy)
  274. Demonbond (2019/Michael DeSanto)
  275. Detention (2019/Johan Vandewoestijne)
  276. The Golden Glove (2019/115 min/Fatih Akin)
  277. Short Game (2019/11m/Allistair Johnson)
  278. Monsterland 2 (2019/Jonathan Holbrook, Arlen Konopaki, Corey Norman, Charlie Phoenix, Kayden Phoenix, Patrick Rea, Elena Stecca and Ben Steiner)
  279. The Drone (2019/82m/Jordan Rubin)
  280. Sunny Child (2019/Ethan Peverley)
  281. Orchard Beach (2019/T.S.)
  282. House of the Gorgon (2019/Joshua Kennedy)
  283. Adrenaline Rush (2019/Marc Outbreak)
  284. Little Monsters (2019/94m/Abe Forsythe)
  285. Dark Night (2019/Matt Spease)
  286. The Lodge (2019/100m/Severin Fiala and Veronika Franz)
  287. Dis (2019/61 min/Adrian Corona)
  288. Blood Oak (2019/C.J. Girard and Tyler Dane Sutton)
  289. S.K.B. (2019/Not Rated/Dustin Kay)
  290. Fortuna Lake (2019/Felipe Martínez Amador)
  291. BOO! (2019/91m/Luke Jaden)
  292. Um Dia Negro 2: Estrada De Sangue (2019/21 min/Rui Constantino)
  293. Wake Up (2019/77 min/Joe W Nowland)
  294. Real Cases of Shadow People The Sarah McCormick Story (2019/107 min/Joseph Mazzaferro, Joseph D. Thomas)
  295. Chestersberg (2019/Jamie McKeller)
  296. Chickens Blood (2019/Korey Jordan)
  297. The Dream Called Life (2019/Piotr Dismas Zdanowicz)
  298. The Premonition (2019/James Ersted)
  299. Velvet Buzzsaw (2019/113 min/Dan Gilroy)
  300. Clickbait (2019/80m/Sophia Cacciola and Michael J. Epstein)
  301. FarmKill (2019/Benjamin van den Dool)
  302. The Unearthly (2019)
  303. Creaker (2019/Vidar Tevasvold Aune)
  304. The Taxidermist (2019/9 min/Luke Ramer)
  305. Relive (2019/103 min/Jacob Estes)
  306. Cute Exorcist (2019/80m/Vinicius J. Santos)
  307. Sweetheart (2019/82 min/J.D. Dillard)
  308. Bad Dose (2019/79 min/Patrick Downing)
  309. Betsy (2019/81 min/Shawn Burkett)
Films Announced for 2019 that may or may not actually be made/released within 2019
  1. Awesome Possum (2019/Michael Knobbe, Jr.)
  2. Geocache (2019/Maarten Bun)
  3. Play with Me (2019/Jesse Haaja)
  4. Night Swim (2019/Bryce McGuire)
  5. Stealing Manhattan (2019/Steve Stanulis)
  6. Along Came the Devil 2 (2019/Jason DeVan)
  7. Crossbow Creek (2019)
  8. Mother God (2019)
  9. Live from Toledo, Erin Darling Reporting (2019/Fabian Rush)
  10. Burn If She Floats (2019/Lee Lennox)
  11. RatAttack (2019/Andriana Parisi)
  12. The Engagement Reunion (2019/Stephan Sherman)
  13. This Order (2019/Levi Eddie Aluede and Dylan Mascis)
  14. Dark Room or Traces of something long gone (2019/Daniel Michalos)
  15. Uncle Edwin (2019/Alex Chikov)
  16. Behind (2019/Angel Gómez Hernández)
  17. Ink (2019)
  18. The Visit (2019/Raza Mallal)
  19. Untitled AHP Project (2019/Anthony Hemingway)
  20. All My Friends Are Dead (2019)
  21. Mask of the Valkyrie (2019/Mark Bousfield)
  22. Bathed in Blood (2019/Alexander Henderson)
  23. The Humming 2 (2019)
  24. The Blood King (2019)
  25. The Haunting of White Rock Lake (2019/85m/Andrew Jones)
  26. Untitled Courtney Miller Horror Project (2019/Courtney Miller)
  27. Here Comes the Night (2019/A.D. Calvo)
  28. Bad Little Children (2019)
  29. We Only Come Out at Night (2019/John Liang)
  30. La Llorona (The Ultimate Sin) (2019)
  31. Untitled Macabre Universe Film (2019/Bobby Roe)
  32. Yellow (2019)
  33. The Works of Evil (2019)
  34. Pig (2019/Claire Haxell-White, Jason Impey and Melvin Sutherland)
  35. Gently Smiling Jaws (2019/Sadrac González-Perellón)
  36. Sonny (2019/Rocco Winks)
  37. Maya (2019/Maria Brenda)
  38. Relax! (2019)
  39. The Deal (2019)
  40. Broken Pieces (2019)
  41. Halloween: Evil on Two Legs (2019/Joseph Formato)
  42. Wendigo (2019/Nic Sell)
  43. Demon (2019/Michael Thelin)
  44. Hellish (2019/David Malcolm)
  45. Play Time (2019/Anthony Raus)
  46. Ménage à Trois (2019/Kris Heys, Helen Lyons-Curran and Rebecca Melvin Phillips)
  47. Canis Lupis (2019)
  48. Bad Things Happen (2019)
  49. The Old Witch (2019/Justin Beahm)
  50. Never sleep again (2019)
  51. Jump (2019)
  52. Come Out to Play (2019)
  53. Equus Spiritus (2019)
  54. Unquiet (2019/Gabriel Beristain)
  55. The Adventures of Baked Potato Man (2019)
  56. The Shepherd (2019)
  57. Girl in the Creek (2019)
  58. Nightly Night Man (2019/Jermaine Nix)
  59. Spirit Reckoning (2019/Jimmy Lee Combs)
  60. Absolution (2019/Nathan Oliver)
  61. Red Right Hand (2019)
  62. Heather (2019)
  63. Untitled Craig Jordan Slasher Film (2019/Craig Jordan)
  64. The Unholy Spirit (2019/Adam Jay Ung)
  65. Merry F'n Christmas (2019/90m/Lawrence Whitener)
  66. Sins (2019/Anthony Hickox)
  67. Who Goes There (2019/Matthew Fackrell and Nathan Fackrell)
  68. Curse: Pearl of Wisdom (2019/Anantha Ramanan)
  69. Vinyl (2019/Banjo Carmichael)
  70. A Herança (2019/João Cândido Zacharias)
  71. The Closet Game (Redux) (2019/Jason Harris)
  72. Dead End Solitude (2019/Rona Walter)
  73. The Elevator Ritual (2019/Jason Harris)
  74. The Closet Game (2019/Jason Harris)
  75. Follow the Leader (2019/Marcus Dunstan)
  76. Santeria: The beginning of Horror (2019/Clovis Ong)
  77. Gear Man (2019)
  78. Macabre (2019/Jack Stanis and Schyler Coghlan)
  79. The Visitor (2019/10m/Kristopher Wile)
  80. The Castle (2019/Fiona Mackenzie)
  81. Imago (2019/Rafa Dengrá)
  82. The Dock (2019/Rocco Michaluk)
  83. The Gunter (2019/Christian York)
  84. Home Sweet Home (2019)
  85. Cidic (2019/Audrey Cummings)
  86. Appointment with the Devil (2019)
  87. Ignominia (2019)
  88. El Cortillo (2019)
  89. Are You Scared Yet? (2019/Dane Millerd)
  90. Untitled El Cucuy Feature Film Project (2019/Christopher Ambriz)
  91. Smilers (2019/Lance Doty)
  92. A Day In Hell (2019/Branden Anthony Bayless and Dustin Andrew Jones)
  93. Deadboyz (2019)
  94. Untitled Project (2019/Leo Di Leo and Graziano Molteni)
  95. Laundromat (2019)
  96. POSER (2019)
  97. Edge of Hell (2019/Kevin Hicks)
  98. Pieces of Amy (2019)
  99. Forevermore (2019/Kenneth E. Carper)
  100. Migraine (2019/Hengame Keshvarpajoh and Amirabas Moradmand)
  101. Psychedelic Nudes (2019)
  102. Sadie (2019/Alexandra Adomaitis)
  103. Pottu (2019/120m/V.C. Vadivudaiyan)
  104. H40 (2019)
  105. Xenophobia (2019/Romeo Ortiz)
  106. The Next Voice (2019)
  107. Don't Listen (2019/Michael Davis)
  108. Wrota piekiel (2019/Lukasz Stasiorowski)
  109. Savon (2019/Michael Davis)
  110. Jake Estrada's the Human Virus (2019/Jake Estrada)
  111. Don't Breathe 2 (2019/Fede Alvarez)
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2018.12.20 00:05 subreddit_stats Subreddit Stats: Conservative top posts from 2017-12-18 to 2018-12-17 17:32 PDT

Period: 364.10 days
Submissions Comments
Total 1000 145385
Rate (per day) 2.75 397.38
Unique Redditors 241 24839
Combined Score 1376770 1831168

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 422528 points, 262 submissions: chabanais
    1. Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit (8022 points, 27 comments)
    2. He legally immigrated here to enjoy Capitalism... (5537 points, 285 comments)
    3. Ben Shapiro delivers a reality check... (4965 points, 424 comments)
    4. Game, Set, Match... (3909 points, 263 comments)
    5. The ultimate stage of absurdity... (3873 points, 272 comments)
    6. Happy Thanksgiving and Thanks (3818 points, 229 comments)
    7. Decoding the NPC Protester... (3778 points, 343 comments)
    8. The more you know... (3627 points, 494 comments)
    9. Imagine being that racist... (3495 points, 339 comments)
    10. What comes around... (3411 points, 459 comments)
  2. 69247 points, 62 submissions: optionhome
    1. Gary Sinise Just Flew 1,000 Children of Fallen Soldiers to Disney World (2760 points, 121 comments)
    2. All the reasons why the MSM have blacked out the You Tube shootings (1707 points, 333 comments)
    3. this is how it happens (1653 points, 405 comments)
    4. Trump is finally bringing justice back to college campuses. "to require colleges to allow cross-examination in sex-assault cases." (1626 points, 172 comments)
    5. Transgenders furious over man changing to female on birth certificate for cheaper car insurance (1621 points, 407 comments)
    6. Simple logic that can never be voiced by the media (1588 points, 154 comments)
    7. No More Free Money to Pakistan: President Trump Cuts Off $255 Million in Military Aid to Pakistan (1485 points, 194 comments)
    8. Not too long ago Starbucks refused to let a police officer use the restroom telling him it was for paying customers. Don't remember Starbucks closing 8000 stores for sensitivity training toward police. (1485 points, 265 comments)
    9. Isn’t it time we quit pretending that using race in college admissions is morally acceptable because it helps some minorities? (1482 points, 238 comments)
    10. This is your new justice system if you support the left (1434 points, 74 comments)
  3. 65993 points, 51 submissions: Clatsop
    1. Thank you. (4288 points, 165 comments)
    2. Liberals on Reddit when a submission is popular on /Conservative... (2826 points, 300 comments)
    3. Together again... (2508 points, 122 comments)
    4. Never forget that over 3,ooo PEOPLE died on September 11, 2001 when four planes were hijacked (taken over) by members of the overseas-based terrorist group Al-Qaeda. The attacks of that day resulted in the single largest loss of life on American soil from a foreign attack. NEVER FORGET. (2449 points, 145 comments)
    5. North Carolinians Vote To Require Voter ID (2312 points, 337 comments)
    6. Kanye West designed 'Blexit' shirts calling for black people to leave the Democratic Party (1969 points, 211 comments)
    7. Dick's May Have To Close Stores Due To Anti-Gun Decisions (1842 points, 179 comments)
    8. Woke. (1699 points, 133 comments)
    9. Liberals on Reddit today ... (1662 points, 265 comments)
    10. On this day in 1775, militiamen at Lexington and Concord confronted 700 British Red Coats — firing the opening volley for American Liberty. The British governor had ordered his troops to seize weapons in Concord... the first shots of the Revolution were fired in response to a gun confiscation order. (1633 points, 133 comments)
  4. 54894 points, 36 submissions: ReaganTroll
    1. Media Uninterested in First Korean-American Woman in Congress... Because She's Republican (3498 points, 313 comments)
    2. UC Berkeley settles landmark free speech lawsuit, will pay $70,000 to conservative group (2877 points, 122 comments)
    3. Doctors & Nurses Cheer When They See a Glimpse of the President. What Trump and the First Lady Do Next Is Just Wonderful (2724 points, 344 comments)
    4. Lindsey Graham to take DNA test to find Native American roots: 'I think I can beat' Elizabeth Warren (2712 points, 471 comments)
    5. The morning after in France. Oh, sorry, this is Portland... (2549 points, 282 comments)
    6. conservative reached 170K subscribers! (2129 points, 283 comments)
    7. Woman Who Claimed Justice Kavanaugh Raped Her Now Admits They’ve Never Even Met. She’s Been Referred to DOJ/FBI for Investigation and Could Soon Be in Serious Legal Trouble%20with%20redacted%20enclosures.pdf) (2037 points, 135 comments)
    8. ‘Dems Care More About the Black Vote Than Black People.’ New John James Ad Seriously Kicks A*S (1959 points, 192 comments)
    9. Marco Rubio: 'Florida law requires counties report early voting & vote-by-mail within 30 minutes after polls close. 43 hours after polls closed 2 Democrat strongholds Broward County & Palm Beach County are still counting & refusing to disclose how many ballots they have left to count' (1863 points, 328 comments)
    10. GOP senators introduce bill to give Trump $25 billion for border wall (1857 points, 275 comments)
  5. 35610 points, 25 submissions: SuperCharged2000
    1. Why the US has the Electoral College (3010 points, 751 comments)
    2. Someone rewrote a section from "Mein Kampf" using feminist terminology, & an academic journal published it. 'Academics' cannot distinguish radical feminism from Nazism. (2849 points, 287 comments)
    3. Study: 80% of Americans Believe Political Correctness Is a Problem (2743 points, 293 comments)
    4. NYT Sarah Jeong Doxed a Rape Victim (1843 points, 169 comments)
    5. BREAKING. Michael Avenatti Discovers Being Tried In the Media Is a Bad Thing (1812 points, 129 comments)
    6. Trump: "The Word 'Racist' Is Used About Every Republican That's Winning" (1734 points, 132 comments)
    7. Trump Calls for Voter ID: 'Only American Citizens Should Vote' (1582 points, 578 comments)
    8. Twitter suspends woman for calling Muslim Brotherhood a “terrorist organization” (1526 points, 134 comments)
    9. Trump plan to deny green cards to immigrants using welfare, food stamps (1521 points, 100 comments)
    10. School bars mom from entering after she objected to gay ‘pride’ event for 5-year-olds (1321 points, 270 comments)
  6. 35143 points, 32 submissions: thatrightwinger
    1. Mike Pence Admits To Heavy Root Beer Drinking In High School (1866 points, 130 comments)
    2. Don Lemon: 'I Apologize If Any Evil White People Were Offended By My Remarks' (1742 points, 137 comments)
    3. Dr. Ben Carson on white liberals (1739 points, 142 comments)
    4. In-N-Out Refuses To Back Down, Responds To Democrat Boycott Calls With Strong Statement (1606 points, 238 comments)
    5. Science proves communism makes nations poorer and less healthy (1521 points, 198 comments)
    6. Christian Daily Reporter Comic: Whose Side Are You On? (1486 points, 180 comments)
    7. Student Kicked Out Of Class For Asking Feminist Professor How Women Are Simultaneously 'Powerful' And 'Helpless Victims Of Patriarchy' (1301 points, 64 comments)
    8. Massachusetts mayor boycotts Sam Adams beer for thanking Trump for tax cuts (1272 points, 129 comments)
    9. Study: 100% Of Elections Are 'The Most Important Election Of Your Lifetime' (1251 points, 36 comments)
    10. Money Raised After Pittsburgh Shooting Went To An Islamic Center With Terror Ties (1187 points, 77 comments)
  7. 34268 points, 23 submissions: tehForce
    1. Go to work. ✔️ (3311 points, 210 comments)
    2. Start documenting it all now. (2310 points, 146 comments)
    3. New Game New Rules (2160 points, 127 comments)
    4. June 6, 1944 (2135 points, 90 comments)
    5. Believe Someone (2124 points, 249 comments)
    6. #CancelWhitePeople (1916 points, 263 comments)
    7. Carolyn Bryant was believed (1622 points, 77 comments)
    8. Message Sent - Message Approved (1605 points, 161 comments)
    9. NRA Congratulates Associate Justice Kavenaugh (1494 points, 148 comments)
    10. Perspective (1432 points, 252 comments)
  8. 29671 points, 15 submissions: Yosoff
    1. Bob and Sally (5914 points, 1222 comments)
    2. Countries that require an ID to vote (3111 points, 598 comments)
    3. Wholesome Thomas Jefferson (2719 points, 335 comments)
    4. Two things that you shouldn't combine. (2272 points, 469 comments)
    5. General Mattis wins again. (2231 points, 326 comments)
    6. How Democrats debate (1726 points, 189 comments)
    7. Russia Truthers (1721 points, 440 comments)
    8. 90% of Redditors on /politics (1670 points, 220 comments)
    9. Why Socialism Fails (1477 points, 98 comments)
    10. Gun Politics (1426 points, 224 comments)
  9. 23562 points, 20 submissions: alc59
    1. Man Who Called Tucker Carlson's Daughter a Whore & 'C' Word Serves on the Board for a Women's Group (2540 points, 200 comments)
    2. Media: 2008 vs 2016 (1745 points, 79 comments)
    3. CNN Forgives Reporter's Homophobic Tweets Because It Was A Long Time Ago When She Was Just A Silly College Kid (1656 points, 342 comments)
    4. Conservative rep introduces bill to defund cities that let illegals vote (1626 points, 212 comments)
    5. Senate report concludes evidence Swetnick, Avenatti ‘criminally conspired’ against Kavanaugh (1472 points, 151 comments)
    6. California judge rules against same-sex couple suing bakery owner (1425 points, 320 comments)
    7. Trump admin kicking unions out of free govt. office spaces: Pay rent or get out. (1306 points, 155 comments)
    8. Antifa Thugs Are Mad Police Released Their Names and Headshots — Let’s Make Them Famous! (1262 points, 135 comments)
    9. Dan Bongino: Kavanaugh should be ‘preparing to sue the living snot’ out of some people … (1029 points, 121 comments)
    10. Tim Allen joins docudrama taking down PC culture (972 points, 97 comments)
  10. 18430 points, 15 submissions: guanaco55
    1. Sir Michael Caine on Brexit: 'I'd Rather Be a Poor Master of My Fate' Than a Slave to EU Bureaucrats (1819 points, 198 comments)
    2. Dalai Lama: 'Europe Belongs to Europeans,' Refugees 'Should Rebuild Their Own Country' (1754 points, 95 comments)
    3. Graham: I'm not going to blame Trump for 'nut job' who sent bombs to Dems -- "I didn’t blame Bernie Sanders when a Bernie supporter shot Congressman Steve Scalise. And I’m not going to blame President Trump for this nut job." (1578 points, 186 comments)
    4. President Trump: "We Want Our Cities to Be Sanctuaries for Americans, Not Safe Havens for Criminals" (1468 points, 240 comments)
    5. Starbucks Is Currently Learning The Hard Way That You Can't Please SJWs (1387 points, 177 comments)
    6. Josef Stalin: "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." (1287 points, 107 comments)
    7. Father of Daughter Killed by MS-13 Gang Members Praises Donald Trump for Using ‘Correct Word’ to Describe Them: “I think you used the correct word. Animals. That's what they are.” (1165 points, 56 comments)
    8. Elizabeth Heng, Republican Candidate For California's 16th Congressional District, Gets Facebook Ad Blocked Due To Mentioning Cambodian Genocide In Her Family's Roots (1157 points, 76 comments)
    9. Twitter Permanently Bans Feminist For Writing That ‘Men Aren’t Women’ (1155 points, 108 comments)
    10. Ben Shapiro: ‘Trump Has a Magic Power … He Can Get Democrats to Defend Anything’ (1067 points, 118 comments)
  11. 18138 points, 13 submissions: LumpyWumpus
    1. Leftists reaction to the Korea situation (2168 points, 221 comments)
    2. This is why we call them fake news (1874 points, 166 comments)
    3. Every Single Time (1764 points, 184 comments)
    4. Why we won (1688 points, 334 comments)
    5. The evolution of liberal "comedy" (1374 points, 166 comments)
    6. A collection of all the evidence against Kavanaugh (1269 points, 68 comments)
    7. For anyone who has trouble understanding the wording of the second amendment (1249 points, 171 comments)
    8. Remember, politics is a subreddit for civil discussion. (1236 points, 193 comments)
    9. Here is the "Baby Trump" balloon that the left is going nuts over. Keep in mind they paid 30k for this thing. (1197 points, 210 comments)
    10. Brett Kavanaugh's Opening Statement (1164 points, 534 comments)
  12. 15685 points, 10 submissions: PlymouthSock
    1. Modern Racism (2184 points, 144 comments)
    2. Sarah Jeong - The New Face of Racism (1873 points, 233 comments)
    3. Democrats plan their legislative agenda (1799 points, 143 comments)
    4. Now Nike is going full Socialist (1726 points, 71 comments)
    5. Literally the same. (1690 points, 100 comments)
    6. /politics since the election (1568 points, 196 comments)
    7. California (1469 points, 114 comments)
    8. Guilty Until Proven Innocent (1285 points, 98 comments)
    9. The root cause of Socialism (1058 points, 218 comments)
    10. Merry Christmas from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (1033 points, 44 comments)
  13. 14581 points, 11 submissions: Tawana_Brawleys_Dad
    1. Chick-fil-A named Americans' favorite fast-food restaurant (2418 points, 325 comments)
    2. Vox Employee That Condoned Violence Against The Wife Of Tucker Carlson Deletes Every Tweet He’s Ever Sent (2208 points, 191 comments)
    3. Steve Carell: 'The Office' Would Be Too Offensive Today (1588 points, 197 comments)
    4. Judge refuses to dismiss charges against Antifa leader Yvette Felarca (1520 points, 92 comments)
    5. Weird. The Palm Beach elections supervisor threatened to arrest reporters and it’s not a bigger story (1330 points, 33 comments)
    6. Brett Kavanaugh's Wife Hands Out Cupcakes to Reporters Besieging Her House (1289 points, 97 comments)
    7. San Francisco Logs Over 16,000 Feces Complaints in One Week (1020 points, 187 comments)
    8. Dear Hollywood: Stop Gaying All the Things, Especially Straight Characters... (858 points, 269 comments)
    9. Alyssa Milano attends anti-gun protest - with armed guards (809 points, 73 comments)
    10. Democrats' total personal war on Brett Kavanaugh should be a Midterm wake-up call for Republicans (808 points, 92 comments)
  14. 13384 points, 10 submissions: sylect
    1. Timeless Wisdom from Scalia (2283 points, 173 comments)
    2. Queer Eye Star Attacked After Saying' Not All Republicans Are Racist' (1665 points, 203 comments)
    3. Ben Shapiro: America needs to stop treating celebrities like politicians Opinion (1613 points, 305 comments)
    4. When Taylor Swift Comes Out For Democrats, She's Brave, A Role Model; When Kanye West Comes Out For Trump, He's 'Token Negro,' Mentally Ill, 'Uncle Tom' (1582 points, 340 comments)
    5. SAVED FROM SOCIALISM: U.S. Saves Baby Oliver After U.K. Doctors Said His Heart Couldn’t Be Fixed (1194 points, 442 comments)
    6. Millennials outraged after baseball team advertises 'Millennial Night' with avocados, participation ribbons and napping stations (1172 points, 274 comments)
    7. It WILL be real socialism too! (1170 points, 248 comments)
    8. Sarah Sanders: America 'A Country Where You're Innocent Until Proven Guilty -- Unless You're A Conservative Republican' (1002 points, 144 comments)
    9. Prosecutor That Questioned Ford Shreds Her Case In 5 Page Memo (879 points, 205 comments)
    10. Iowa Planned Parenthood Closes After Losing Its Taxpayer Funding (824 points, 239 comments)
  15. 11902 points, 10 submissions: tenshon
    1. Trump: ‘I’d Rather Have Fake News Like CNN…than Have Anybody Stopped and Censored’ (1715 points, 176 comments)
    2. Poll: Americans overwhelmingly reject voting rights for undocumented immigrants (1689 points, 205 comments)
    3. Poll: Majority (76%) of Americans say they would not vote for a 'socialist' (1650 points, 293 comments)
    4. Venezuela’s inflation will hit 1 million percent. Thanks, Socialism. (1506 points, 161 comments)
    5. CBS correspondent says 'it should be noted' that the Obama White House 'demonized' Fox News daily (1058 points, 42 comments)
    6. Ocasio-Cortez's rise reveals rampant economic illiteracy in US (1024 points, 487 comments)
    7. Voters credit Trump over Obama for booming economy: poll (856 points, 49 comments)
    8. 87 Women Who Know Brett Kavanaugh: The Allegation is ‘False’ (853 points, 118 comments)
    9. Kanye West: ‘I Was Programmed to Think From a Victimized Mentality - a Welfare Mentality’ (811 points, 41 comments)
    10. Graham EXPLODES at Dems, rips proceedings as 'unethical sham' (740 points, 83 comments)
  16. 11483 points, 8 submissions: 10gauge
    1. Rob Schneider on SNL: "Much late night comedy is less about being funny and more about Indoctrination by comedic imposition. People aren't really laughing at it as much as cheering on the rhetoric. It no longer resembles a comedy show, it's more like some kind of liberal Klan meeting" (2428 points, 261 comments)
    2. B O O K B U R N I N G S (1937 points, 345 comments)
    3. When showing ID is not racist VS when showing ID is racist (1623 points, 421 comments)
    4. Muslim Arrivals in US down 91% from Dec 2016 (1571 points, 220 comments)
    5. We Must Stop.... (1259 points, 39 comments)
    6. Jordan Peterson calls for ‘intact heterosexual two-parent families’ to maintain civilization News LifeSite (950 points, 332 comments)
    7. Snoop Dogg's 'White Kanye' Proves Just How Intolerant Liberals Really Are MRCTV (864 points, 231 comments)
    8. Florida Elections Worker: I Was Fired For Witnessing Possible Absentee Ballot Fraud (851 points, 44 comments)

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2018.11.09 07:00 iminterestingplease Part 39

I'm back. Although, did you even notice I was gone? I wasn't able to update or post for about two weeks cause I didn't have access to do posting of any kind but I'm back now and I must say, it felt relaxing to be honest. It cleared my head a little. But now, here we are. I'm back and ready for what comes next.
Add-On: Do you remember the history of Daylight Saving Time, how it works, and the time difference between Hawaii and California being different?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EdgVzmOpWOg
6457.(Celebrity death that didn't happen.)Do you remember Imelda Marcos dying?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imelda_Marcos
6458.(Movie Quote change.)"I must break you."/"I must rake you."/"I must rape you."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8lkhbD9vkfc
6459.(Famous Actor name change.)Robert Deniro/Robert DeNiro/Robert De Niro
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_De_Niro
6460.(Song name change.)Bicycle/Bicycle Race(Does the bike bell sound different?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_Race
6461.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember there not being motor scooters in the early 1900's?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoped
6462.(Candy name change.)Tiny Tarts/Tarts 'N Tinys/Tarts N' Tinys(Other names?)(Does the logo look off?)
https://www.oldtimecandy.com/collections/walk-the-candy-aisle-tart-n-tinys-candy
Add-On: Do you remember "Sunny days." instead of "Sunny day." being sung in the Sesame Street theme song?(Lots of small song changes.)(Cum(Come?)On Feel The Noize/Noise?)by Quiet Riot lyrics have changed?)(Come On Feel The Illinois/Come On! Feel The Illinoise)(Do any of any of their logos look off?)(The episode of The Honeymooners titled The Man From Space has inconsistent air dates its listed under.)(Multiple realities of The Man With The Yellow Hat's tie.)(Jimmie Rodgers/Jimmy Rogers)(Other spellings?)(Jimmy Rogers/Jimmie Rodgers)(Other spellings?)(Did both singers have the same name?)(Grover went from originally brown to greenish brown.)(Anything else off?)(Lots of weird old history of Sesame Street.)(There was no longer a champagne glass or anything similar to that on the Titanic.)(Anything else off?)(Lots of weird colored frogs.)(More weird sea creatures.)(TV glasses similar to Google Glass go back to the 1960's.)(The history of the invention of the sewing machine and zipper involves idea stealing.)(Have you heard of a Novella?)(Gardener Snake/Garter Snake)(More weird statues and art like the Mickey Mouse statue popping up.)(Nazi Bell time travel device now exists.)(Mark 1 and Mark 2 Colossus code breakers now exist.)(The history of submarines keeps changing and getting older.)(Did Ice Cube not exist for you?)(Dino from The Flintstones is depicted in colors other than purple now.)(Tishue/Tissue)(Other spellings?)(Ishue/Issue)(EbeneezeEbenezer)(Other spellings?)(ShoogeSugar)(Other spellings?)(Shure/Sure)(Other spellings?)(Many famous sports games have changed.)(Brian McFarland/Brian MacFarlane)(Curious&CuriouseCuriouser and Curiouser)(Phantom sand in shoes or raindrops or mosquitoes that aren't there.)(The Statue Of Liberty is invisible in a couple Google Street View photos.)(Many new realities of Doc Martens such as Doc Maartens.)(Many new realities of Claire's such as Claire's Boutiques and Claire's Accessories.)(Lots of Einstein and Picasso history is off or new due to them living later among other things lasting longer.)(Lemmon/Lemon)(Leonardo DeCaprio/Leonardo DiCaprio)(Sasha Aaron Cowan/Sacha Baron Cohen)(Multiple Winn-Dixie logos have touching letters.)(Many scenes and movie quotes in Hudson Hawk have changed.)(Kick Out The Jams by The Presidents Of The United States Of America(Presidents Of The United States Of America?)has had many lyric changes.)(Do any of their logos look off?)(Many changes to the color Blue.)(Weird pyramid found in 2003.)(Many new realities for the song lyrics to One and do you remember The Beatles singing it?)(Anything else off?)(Sirus XM/SiriusXM)(Telephone switchboard that goes far back as the late 1800's.)(Louisiana now has little finger-like ridges on it.)(Lots of weird early The Flintstones history.)(iRobot logo has changed.)(Internet Explorer logo keeps changing and history too.)(Grapes come in all colors.)(Lots of anime Mandela effects.)(Pixie Sticks/Pixy Stix)(Mozilla Firefox logo keeps changing and history too.)(You can survive longer without food and much longer without water.)(Eternal flames now exist.)(The full version of the Speedway jingle which is "Around the corner, around the country, at work or play, we’re on your way. The convenience stores of Speedway." is a weird anomaly.)(Anything else off?)(The Liberty Bell on the $100 bill moved.)(Toe knuckles now exist.)(Laurel & Hardy footage in color from 1956.)(Lots of new and weird moon phases.)(DolloDollar)(The great Kanto earthquake of 1923 is now a thing and many similar things happened in that same place at the same time.)(Was the music note that made people in South Park poop the Brown Sound, Brown Note, or Brown Noise?)(Have you heard of the Battle Of Loudon Hill?)(Dave Thomas who founded Wendy's used to work at KFC.)(War Of The Worlds/The War Of The Worlds or was it the other way around?)(Has the Lizzie Borden story changed again?)(The Running Man/Running Man or was it the other way around?)(Dolphins can recognize their own reflection and will protect humans in danger.)(Chocolate milk was considered medicine in the 1600's.)(People now treated the Kaleidoscope in the 1800's the way we treat phones today.)(Cuttlefish can change colors.)(Has the Lincoln Memorial changed again?)(Sony Walkman from 1979 and other advanced 1970's technology.)(Are Christmas Eve boxes new for you?)(Atretochoana Eiselti is now a thing.)(More Break My Stride lyric changes.)(Tinker Toys/Tinker Toy)(Does the logo look off?)(Stop signs apparently used to be yellow and had black letters or do you remember black letters on the red ones?)(Anything else off?)(Does the Columbia House logo look off?)(Scotty McCreedy/Scotty McCreery)(Rats will actually stand up to larger creatures like cats and the cats will get scared.)(Lee Mayers/Lee Majors and didn't he pass away?)(Mouse-deer now exists.)(Did Sean Conmery have a 3rd nipple?)(Smokey The BaSmoky The Bar)(Different or changed scenes in Groundhog Day.)(Squirrels roll around like cats and dogs sometimes.)(All birds have an oily coating to deal with water.)(Internet Explorer logos keep changing.)(More flight path times keep changing.)(More Penis shaped plants and animals.)(The definition of the N-Word actually means Ignorant.)(More weird sea creatures such as glass fish.)(Weird black and white pattern on deer.)(Maury Povovich/Maury Povich)(VTech Kidzoom/VTech Kidizoom)(Didn't Christopher Reeve die more recently than October 10, 2004?)(Smokey Bear history has changed.)(Is the Big Jeff's scene in The Terminator off?)(Medieval torture wasn't about the iron maiden.)(Anything else off?)(Catherine The Great didn't die while in bed with a horse.)(Lizzie Borden didn't murder her parents.)(Nero didn't fiddle while Rome burned.)(Crocodiles don't cry but tears can be forced in their eyes.)(Some chickens have teeth.)(Old dogs can be taught new tricks.)(The Lady In Red stuff keeps changing.)(Does Tempur-Pedic keep changing?)(Hares never go mad.)(Cook's Children/Cook Children's)(Other spellings?)(GrammeGrammar)(Tornados/Tornadoes)(Ray Mysterio Sr./Rey Misterio Sr. and his soon too.)(Not his nephew, Rey Mysterio Jr.)(Ray Mysterio Jr.?)(Have any of the lyrics in Hurtin' Me by Stefflon Don, Thank U, Next by Ariana Grande, or Lithium by Nirvana changed or do they sound odd?)(The history of how Winnie The Pooh was created is weird.)(The UK speed limit allowance went from 3 miles over the limit to 5.)(Snot, boogers, mucus, phlegm(Is the spelling off?)and the color rules for them being green, white, or clear is all off.)(Dog poop no longer turns white after a while.)("Hi, see ya, hold tight."/"Ha, see ya, hold tight."/"Hai, si, ja, hold tight.")(Dolphin succulents now exist.)(Lots of geography related changes recently.)(Bending with your knees and back straight is now being called inferior while lifting a heavy object.)(Moulan Rouge/Moulin Rouge and has the pronunciation or any of the logos changed?)(Weren't frogs and other amphibians only found in tropical areas and not in snowy ones?)(A Muppets Christmas Carol/The Muppet Christmas Carol and is the logo off?)(Do any of the characters on the movie cover look off?)(The definition of the N-Word has changed.)(Do certain ice or roller skating moves look off or has gravity changed?)(Phillip K. Dick/Philip K. Dick)(Old painting has mobile phone in it?)(Ketchup was used as medicine in the 1800's.)(Window air conditioning was made in the early 1900's.)(Santa Barbra, California/Santa Barbara, California)(Electric ceiling fan was made in the 1880's.)(Microwaves were made in 1946.)(Electric dishwasher was made in the 1880's.)(X-rays were made in the 1890's.)(Dental implants were made in the 1950's and used in 1965.)(1st electric washing machine was made in 1908.)(Roller skates were made in 1760.)(Lots of biblical changes.)(Have you heard of UPS, Amazon or similar lockers that are used to get your packages?)(Fonzie beaFozzie bear)(The Santa Claus in Fred Claus is now holding a Pepsi bottle.)(Ultra Beauty/ULTA Beauty and have they gone through any name changes for you or not?))(Has the Lizzie Borden story changed again?)(Have any of the scenes in Cruel Intentions changed?)(BodYball/BodEball and has the logo changed?)(Anything else off?)(The Connors/The Conners and has the logo changed?)(Addis Abeba/Addis Ababa)(Has First Time I Ever Saw Your Face by Roberta Flack changed?)(Do any of her logos look off?)(Weathers Original/Werther's Original and has the logo changed?)(Do you remember Centrifical force being a thing?)(Tom Selleck is now alive.)(Do you remember snot or boogers or anything ever being yellow?)(Angela Johnson/Anjelah Johnson)(Were Anjelah and Anjela never acceptable spellings of Angela?)(Were certain alcoholic drinks like Brandy and Whiskey not ever used as medicine?)(Squirrels rolling around like dogs or cats.)(Mel Torme/Mel Tormé)(Lots of new plants.)(Latest videos by NeEd InPuT.)(The US flag being backwards on police cars, police uniforms, etc.(Indian barbers that use fire in their haircuts.)(Vanilla Wafers/Nilla Wafers and is the logo off?)(A lot of new references to gender equality through history and mythology.)(Lots of apparent myths.)(Mike Meyers/Mike Myers)(Michael Meyers/Michael Myers)(Robert England/Robert Englund)(Being able to have pets like big cats, crocodiles, alligators, foxes, etc.)(Do you remember Oliver & Company being released earlier or later or did it not exist for you?)(Other names?)(Do any of the logos look off?)(Betty MidleBette Midler)(Was Bette never an acceptable spelling of Betty?)(Cheech Martin/Cheech Marin)(Willy Robertson/Willie Robertson)(Willy McCovey/Willie McCovey)(Willy Cauley-Stein/Willie Cauley-Stein)(Willy TayloWillie Taylor)(Willy Jones/Willie Jones)(Willy Reed/Willie Reed)(Willy Revillame/Willie Revillame)(Willy Moore/Willie Moore)(Willy Spence/Willie Spence)(Willy D/Willie D)(Willy Garson/Willie Garson)(Willy Edwards/Willie Edwards)(Willy Geist/Willie Geist)(Willy Colon/Willie Colon)(Willy McGinest/Willie McGinest)(Willy Brown/Willie Brown)(Willy Stargell/Willie Stargell)(Willy Maxine Perry/Willie Maxine Perry)(Willy Dixon/Willie Dixon)(Willy AdleWillie Adler)(Willy Gomez/Willie Gomez)(Willy Maldonado/Willie Maldonado)(Willy McGee/Willie McGee)(Willy Mason/Willie Mason)(Willy Carson/Willie Carson)(Willy ParkeWillie Parker)(Willy Wilson/Willie Wilson)(Willy Taggart/Willie Taggart)(Willy Randolph/Willie Randolph)(Willy Johnson/Willie Johnson)(Willy Green/Willie Green)(Willy Leroux/Willie LeRoux/Willie Le Roux)(Other spellings?)(Willy Smith/Willie Smith)(Willy Horton/Willie Horton)(Willy ShoemakeWillie Shoemaker)(Willy Degel/Willie Degel)(Willy The Kid/Willie The Kid)(Willy Davis/Willie Davis)(Willy Mack/Willie Mack)(Willy Nile/Willie Nile)(Willy P. Richardson/Willie P. Richardson)(Willy Banks/Willie Banks)(Willy Pep/Willie Pep)(Willy Snead/Willie Snead)(Willy Gault/Willie Gault)(Billy Joe Armstrong/Billie Joe Armstrong)(Was the male spelling always Billy and never Billie?)(Betty Page/Bettie Page)(Was Bettie never an acceptable spelling of Betty?)(Betty MidleBette Midler)(Other spellings?)(Betty Davis/Bette Davis)(Betty Nesmith Graham/Bette Nesmith Graham)(Betty Bao Lord/Bette Bao Lord)(Betty Frankie/Betty Frank/Betty Franke)(Other spellings?)(Scorpio constellation/Scorpius constellation)(Have you heard of Ascriptin?)(Lots of Roman and other influence on stuff in America.)(Blink 182/Blink-182 and are any of the logos off and is the pronunciation off?)(Leaning Tower Of Niles is now a thing.)(National Mall is now a thing.)(Frogs can come back to life.)(Wreckless/Reckless)(Did WW2 end later than 1945 for you?)(Foamhenge now exists.)(Lasers being shot from airplanes.)(Plants and fungi growing where they shouldn't.)(Mossy forests.)(The Skipper now wears blue shoes instead of white and tan pants instead of white.)(Leann Womack/Lee Ann Womack)(Other spellings?)(Billy Jean/Billie Jean)(Was Billy only ever a masculine name and spelled with a Y?)(Gilligan now has blue pants instead of white.)(Eddie Munster's jacket is no longer closed.)(Oden/Odin)(Lots of weird new natural formations.)(Birds can make big dents in airplanes they run into.)(Lots of small celebrity death and history changes.)(Doctor House no longer chews Vicodin(Vicadin?))(Connors/The Conners)(Anything else off?)(Ray Ben's/Ray-Ban)(Other spellings?)(Monarch butterflies eating more stuff.)(David Warner is now alive.)(More plants that eat meat.)(Freddie Mercury history changes.)(More changes to Star Wars.)(Many merging Disney movie logos.)(Many replicas of monuments.)(The definition of Negro has changed.)(More birds with feathers like peacocks.)(More different colored peacocks.)(Red Devil logo now has real red devil in it.)(More Mickey Mouse changes.)(Mary Poppins actress changed.)(Have any cursive letters changed for you?)(Reindeer boobs are now a thing.)(Lots of videos and pictures of things, and people that shouldn't be there or exist at that time.)(Wildstyle/Wyldstyle)(Jack Skeleton/Jack Skellington)(Lots of changes to famous rocket ships.)(Touchscreens in cars go farther back now in terms of time.)(New galaxy found in ours.)(Lots of spelling changes.)("Walk this way. Talk this way."/"Walk this way. Walk this way.")(There are blue stop signs in Hawaii.)(Ron L. Hubbard/L. Ron Hubbard)(Has anything in Huckleberry Hound changed?)("Love will tear us apart."/"Love will tear it apart.")(Joy Division.)(Do you remember Fred Savage having a mole other than in Austin Powers?)(Shirley McLain/Shirley McLaine/Shirley MacLaine)(Other spellings?)(Do you remember a day in the week other than Tuesday for Ruby Tuesday the restaurant or Ruby Tuesday's the song?)(Anything else off?)(Crocodile Skin/Alligator Skin/Gatorskin song)(Some countries pronounce Z as Zed.)(Other spellings?)(Did Jimi Hendrix not have a son with a Swedish woman?)(Do you remember luffa(Other spellings?)sponges not being naturally grown from seeds?)(Steamboat Willy/Steamboat Willie)(Lots of colored newscasts from the 1960's.)(Dark VadeDarth Vader)(Dark Maul/Darth Maul)(Dark Sideous/Darth Sideous)(Have you heard of portal Christmas trees?)("I'm in me mum's car."/"I'm in my mum's car." Vine.)(There are now blue traffic lights.)(Luke Skywalker now gets his hand cut off before he finds out Darth Vader is his dad.)(The wreck of the Titanic was now found in 1985 instead of later.)(Green cockroaches now exist.)(Blue mushrooms now exist.)(Purple crabs now exist.)(Hurricanes twist counterclockwise instead of clockwise.)(Many celebrity name changes.)("Our forefathers."/"Our fathers." Gettysburg Address)(Boars can be super big now.)(Purple sweet potatoes now exist.)(Whiptail lizards now exist and have only females.)(Rainbows can form inside clouds.)(There are now pink robins.)(There are now tons of different colored cockroaches.)(Deliverence/Deliverance movie and spelling.)(Did Garth Brooks never sing "Zat You, Santa Claus?"?)("Is That You Santa Claus?"?)(Freddy Mercury/Freddie Mercury)(Clever News/Clevver News)("Love that has no past."/"Love that has no path.")(Do you remember Where're and There're not being words?)(Sandra Bernhart/Sandra Bernhard)(Other spellings?)(Do you remember Bob Ross dying earlier than July 4, 1995?)(Pee-wee's(Pee-Wee's?)Great Adventure/Pee-wee's Big Adventure)(Do any of his logos look off?)(Pee-Wee/Pee-wee)(Theodore Geisel/Theodor Geisel)(Was Theodor never an acceptable spelling of Theodore?)(Was the Grinch never depicted with green, yellow, or red eyes in the movies or book?)(Do any of his other specials seem off?)(Ebeneezer Scrooge/Ebenezer Scrooge)(Is the pronunciation off?)(Traffic light colors keep changing.)(Were the things that visited him ghosts or spirits for you?)(Was the last one Ghost Of Christmas Future, Yet-To-Come, or Yet-To-Be?)(Anything else off?)(Glass butterflies now exist.)(Never Neverland/Neverland)(Was Christmastime always "Christmas time"?)(Was What're never a word?)(Did robins always have red bellies or lots of red?)(Anything else off?)("Thanks for the memories."/"Thanks for everything." To Wong Foo)(Is the logo off?)("This time we'll look at the falls."/"This time we'll peek at the falls.")(Do any of their logos look off?)(Fiberglass/Fiberglas)(Does the logo look off?)(Fabercastle/Fabercastel/Faber-Castell)(Other spellings?)(Anything else off?)(Every type of skink has changed in some ways very recently.)(Many weird anomalies with Mickey and Minnie Mouse including their eyebrows and many other characters from their universe and there are weird depictions of them on certain clothing found online.)(Everything about the word Vertebrae and everything surrounding it is off and with Algae.)(Happy Holidays/Happy Holiday lyrics and song title.)(Any other lyrics off?)(Do any of any of their logos look off?)("Every time a bell rings, an angel gets its wings."/"Every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings.")(Does the movie logo look off?)(Human teeth growing on a human heart.)(Chapstix/ChapStick)(Does the logo look off?)(More lyric changes to certain versions of Favorite Things where And should be In.)(Many lyric anomalies in certain versions of I'll Be Home For Christmas.)(Massive cow is going viral.)(B.J. Thomas is now alive.)(Tina Turner is now alive.)(Geraldo Rivera is now alive.)(Tom Kenny is now alive.)(Billy Corigan/Billy Corgan)(The history of the Pegler-Sysco name change seems really odd.)(Olawalu, Hawaii/Oluwalu, Hawaii/Olowalu, Hawaii)(Black, red, blue and pink Christmas trees now exist.)(Chinese water deer now exists.)(Lots of other lyric changes.)(Lots more early tech.)(History of Baja California has changed.)(Did Ketchup and Catsup taste different?)(Other spellings of Sandra Bernhard like Sandra Bernhardt?)(Dr. Seuss used to draw political cartoons.)(Bended Knee by Boyz ll Men has changed.)(Toshiba Protege/Toshiba Portege)(Scattegories/Scattergories)(Other spellings?)(Does the logo look off?)(Parasitic wasp species discovered.)(Witch/THE VVITCH)(Other names?)(Does the logo look off?)("Every child's mother is gonna try."/"Every child's mother is gonna spy." Christmas song.)(Any of their logos look off?)(Rebecca Demornay/Rebecca DeMornay/Rebecca De Mornay)(The sign language interpreter that didn't know sign language that was involved with Nelson Mandela?)(Was Snoopy's tail white, black or another color or did he not have one?)(More weird Mario related logos?)(The Walmart As now have weird black spaces in them.)(Red Subway restaurant sign found.)(Has Candace Bergen's name changed for you?)(Tenrecs are now a thing.)(Siberian musk deer are now a thing.)(All Skittles apparently taste the same.)(Video of New York from 1907 that looks HD.)(The older Subway logos' colors have inverted.)(The Travel Channel/Travel Channel)(There is now a drum roll after the Joker says "Gentleman" in the 1989 movie.)(Rainbow grapes now exist.)(There are tons of different colors for Stop signs and there even using more than one font.)(David Bowie's pupils are different sizes.)(The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles never use their weapons in the original series.)(They apparently used to all wear red masks.)(olaffhub8/olaffub8 Reddit user.)(Elvis Presley never sings Jingle Bell Rock.)(Lots of new clear videos and photos from the early 1900's to mid 1900's popping up recently.)(Ninetails/Ninetales)(Subway logos keep changing.)(Max Headron/Max Headrom/Max Headroom)(Other spellings?)(Has the pronunciation changed?)(Fisherman's Friends/Fisherman's Friend)(Anything else off?)(Portabella/Portobello)(Other spellings?)(Anything else off?)(Lots of other small changes.)(Weird things going on with certain Panera Bread restaurants and their logos and other things popping up and disappearing.)(Was Alive a true story about a lacrosse or soccer team and not a rugby team?)(Does the movie logo look off?)(Was Tigger's nose red or another color that wasn't mentioned?)(The yellow Jeep in Twister now has three blue lines on it.)(Does the movie logo look off?)(Trond Kirkevaag/Trond Kirkvaag)(Other spellings?)(Tom Foggerty died much earlier than September 6, 1990 and not of AIDS.)("Mangled in tangled up knots."/"Mangled in tangled up knot.")(Has the female reproductive system changed even more?)(Do you remember Paul McCartny or MacCartny?)(John Lenon/John Lennon)(Jack Lenon/Jack Lemmon)(Is the Zagnut logo off?)(Have you heard of it?)(Do you remember the Pokémon Slowpoke having an all pink tail or a pink tail with a white tip?)(Do you remember McDonald's never using green arches?)(Ridiculously large chicken and lots of other large and weird colored and feathered and fur-like covered chickens and cows too.)(Golden nub nosed monkey.)(I Would Love To Change The World/I'd Love To Change The World)("I would love to change the world."/"I love to change the world.")(Other lyrics?)(Do any of their logos look off?)(Do you remember 666 being the worst number instead of 616?)("It's no stranger to you or me."/"Some stranger to you and me.")(Other lyrics?)(Marvin Gaye Sr./Marvin Gay Sr.)(Peter WagonePorter Wagoner)(Anything about these musical myths off?)(Link below.)(Roseanne Cash/Rosanne Cash)(Was I'd not a word?)(Everything with the word I'd has changed.)(Do you remember The Beatles album Yellow Submarine not existing?)(Colorful pebble beaches and other bodies of water.)(Marilyn Monroe had a half sister.)(Jackie Stallone is now alive.)(Does she look weird?)(Fish covered in tattoos.)(Lots of new proof of giants found above and underwater?)(Lots of weird "giant" statues and natural wonders.)(Are whale sharks new or off to you?)(Do you remember Hal Smith dying earlier or later than January 28, 1994?)(Has Pinball Wizard changed at all?)("I've had the time of my life."/"I had the time of my life.")("And I've never felt this way before."/"No I've never felt like this before.")("This is true."/"It's true."/"It's the truth.")(Other lyrics?)(Do any of their logos look off?)(Pretty much anything having to do with cars and similar stuff goes back way farther than you thought it did.)(Do you remember groups of geese not being called gaggles?)(Tina Turner and most female celebrities looking masculine or are they actually men and most male celebrities looking feminine or are they actually women?)(Lots of newscasters and politicians such as Bill and Hillary Clinton freezing up and acting weird and Wendy Williams, Beyoncé, Kanye West, Bruce Willis, Mariah Carey, Eminem, 2 Chainz, Britney Spears, Shaquille O'Neal, Al Roker, Draymond Green, Steph Curry, Chris Paul, Mark Zuckerberg, Barack Obama, Kourtney Kardashian, Jalen Brown, Kylie Jenner, Amanda Bynes, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Conor McGregor and Cardi B as well as many others including regular people who are caught on camera.)(Lots of weird stuff about traffic lights.)(Do you remember olaffub8 having a different name other than the ones I mentioned?)(Bugs Bunny is depicted with white, orange, yellow, and pink ears.)(Which do you remember?)(Cross between TV and telephone, and TV and being able to order stuff with a button on the TV from old ads.)(Lots of rare moon phases and sun phases and skies recently.)(Have you heard of the word Gaggle?)(Thresh Hold/Threshhold/Threshold)(Other spellings?)(Is the pronunciation off?)(Do you remember Jael Strauss dying before December 4, 2018?)(More new harmful caterpillars and other types?)(Nanshe the Goddess Of Social Justice And Divination?)(Divinenation?)(Anything else off?)(Does Marvin The Martian look different?)(Did the Sahara not turn green and back every few thousand years for you?)(Other spellings of Scattergories?)(Geraldo Riviera/Geraldo Rivera)(Pearls come in colors other than white.)(Other spellings of Billy Corgan?)(See's Candy/See's Candies)(Does the logo look off?)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/81de573a-58df-4606-9e9c-02b68ddf4b55
https://genius.com/Sesame-street-can-you-tell-me-how-to-get-to-sesame-street-lyrics
6463.(Product name change.)Little Tree/Little Trees
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Trees
6464.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember hammering coins into trees to make wishes not being a thing?
http://boredomtherapy.com/coin-wishing-trees/
6465.(Product name change.)Soft & Dry/Soft & Dri(Other names?)(Does the logo look off?)(Do any of the other logos look off?)
http://www.softndri.com
Add-On: Do you remember the poppies in The Wizard Of Oz being a different color?("Poppies will make them sleep."/"Poppies will put them to sleep.")(Anything else off?)
http://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/opium-through-wizard-oz
6466.(Store Logo change.)Do you remember there being a dash in Winn-Dixie instead of a check mark?(Buy-Low/Bi-Lo)(Does the dash in Bi-Lo look off in any way?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winn-Dixie
6467.(Music Lyrics change.)"Stick to the rivers and the streams."/"Stick to the rivers and the lakes."(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Tlc-waterfalls-lyrics
6468.(Company Logo change.)Do you remember the New Holland Agriculture logo not having connected letters?(Do any of the other logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Holland_Agriculture
6469.(Date change.)Do you remember the Jared Fogle incident happening 8-10 years ago instead of 2015?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/19/jared-fogle-ex-subway-spokesman-faces-child-sex-and-child-pornography-charges/
6470.(Famous First Lady name change.)Dolly Madison/Dolley Madison
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolley_Madison
6471.(Famous Journalist name change.)Lisa Lang/Lisa Ling
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Ling
6472.(Album name change.)By Any Means Necessary/By All Means Necessary(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_All_Means_Necessary
6473.(Famous Musician name change.)The Velvet Frog/The Velvet Fog(Album too.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Tormé
6474.(T.V. Show name change.)Rocco's Modern Life/Rocko's Modern Life(Does the logo look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocko%27s_Modern_Life
6475.(Famous Country Singer name change.)Jeanie Seeley/Jeannie Seely(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeannie_Seely
6476.(Art name change.)Art-O-Matic/Art-O-Mat
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art-o-mat
6477.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the tags on mattresses and pillows saying nobody can remove them and never clarifying that only the consumer could remove them?
https://www.livescience.com/33039-why-do-mattresses-have-do-not-remove-tags.html
6478.(Music Lyrics change.)"As a river flows gently to the sea."/"Like a river flows surely to the sea."(I Can't Help Falling In Love With You/Can't Help Falling In Love)
https://genius.com/Elvis-presley-cant-help-falling-in-love-lyrics
6479.(Famous Director name change.)Brian Depalma/Brian DePalma/Brian De Palma
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_De_Palma
6480.(Auto Shop name change.)Pep Boys/Pep Auto Supplies/Pep Boys Auto(Do any of the logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pep_Boys
6481.(Music Lyrics change.)"You gotta lick before you stick it."/"You gotta lick it before we kick it."(Any other lyrics off?)(Any of their logos look off?)(Is the movie quote and song from Booty Call off as well?)
http://www.metrolyrics.com/lick-it-lyrics-20-fingers.html
6482.(Music Lyrics change.)"He makes my bath time so much fun."/"You make bath time lots of fun."(Rubber Ducky/Rubber Duckie)(Was Ducky never spelled Duckie?)(Any of the other lyrics off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_Duckie
6483.(Movie name change.)Bickford Shmeckler's Book Of Cool Ideas/Bickford Shmeckler's Cool Ideas(Do any of the logos look off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bickford_Shmeckler%27s_Cool_Ideas
6484.(Popsicle name change.)Push Pops/Push-Up
https://www.drumstick.com/nestle/push-ups.aspx
6485.(Quote change.)"Sit Boo Boo, sit. Good dog."/"Sit Ubu, sit. Good dog."
http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question44326.html
6486.(Famous First Lady name change.)Melanie Trump/Melania Trump
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump
6487.(Phantom quote.)Do you remember Neil Armstrong saying "Good luck Mr. Gorsky." while on the moon?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/good-luck-mr-gorsky/
6488.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember rest areas being known as Truck Stops and not Service Stations or Travel Centers?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_stop
6489.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different or not a thing?(More geography changes, wind path changes and similar stuff, dog that can ride on scooter and dogs that can do similar stuff and that act smarter than they should, Kurt Cobain of Nirvana liked to wear dresses and more men wearing dresses further back, more untouched tribes and history changes, horses look completely different and there lots of new types of them and some have weird manes and tails, more freshwater jellyfish lakes and friendly jellyfish, Ringtail is a common animal in Arizona, "Ancient Earth" found under Antarctica, self-cloning lizard found in Vietnam, metamorphosis process for caterpillars now involves melting instead of just changing, physicists slow speed of light, slow dust devil, more new history of people coming to America before Columbus, three Mormon wars, strange Nikola Tesla tower and more weird Tesla history and his existence in general, gladiators rarely fought to the death and more new gladiator history, koalas are starting to look different and babies too, the city of Atlantis is now a continent and more new supposed history on Atlantis, St. Elmo's fire is real and its existence is new, cave lit by glowing worms, Antarctic volcano basket, weird shadow spectrum, Naga fireballs, ice circles are getting bigger, crooked forest, structure in Baltic Sea, valley of falling birds, stonefish have switchblades in their heads and they look completely different, Buddha's heart seal, Budai, how Buddha died and he is getting skinnier, placebos can work even when you know about them, more Statue Of Liberty changes, more Mount Rushmore changes, more Shiva changes, more The Creation Of Adam changes, more The Thinker changes, more The Last Supper changes, Roy Clark died again, phantom myth that a cockroach can live without its head is true and other stuff, history of carrots has changed, Pando tree and trees that live for thousands of years, Arbudus Unedo, Irukandji syndrome and jellyfish and history has changed, Big Lots! logo keeps changing and multiple colors and fonts used for the logo and physical store, flower looks like a demon chicken foot, dinosaurs could have feathers and birds are reptiles and reptiles don't really exist in terms of what they are and lots of other stuff, gravity defying stones done by man named Michael Grab, weird Masonic handshake, Freemasonary/Freemasonry.)(Video below.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjukjM1AZM4
6490.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Benjamin Franklin saying the turkey should be our national bird?
https://www.history.com/news/did-benjamin-franklin-propose-the-turkey-as-the-national-symbol
6491.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Walt Disney drawing Mickey Mouse?
https://sites.psu.edu/laurettakraeme2016/02/24/that-time-walt-disney-did-not-create-mickey-mouse/
6492.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the 1929 Wall Street Crash causing mass suicides?
https://www.thestar.com/news/2009/01/10/the_myth_of_postcrash_pavement_suicides.html
6493.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Richard Nixon being an environmentalist?
http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/richard-nixon-the-environmentalist-resigned-38-years-ago-today-14776
6494.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Pocahontas and John Smith marrying?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-pocahontas-180962649/
6495.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Thanksgiving being the way it's depicted in school?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/us/thanksgiving-myths-fact-check.html
6496.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the founding fathers being Christian?
https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity-1272214
6497.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Abraham Lincoln being completely against slavery?
https://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation
6498.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember the Battle Of The Alamo being fought to keep us free?(Didn't we defeat Hitler by ourselves in WW2?)(Did the Puritans move to the new world to seek religious freedom?)(Charles Lindbergh wasn't the first to make a solo transatlantic crossing in an airplane.)(Wasn't the Wild West violent?)(The Star Spangled Banner wasn't an American tune composed in the US.)(The martini wasn't invented by a gold miner.)(Johnny Appleseed was a real person.)(The Gunshot Heard Around The World wasn't the start of the revolution.)(Pirates still existed when we got our independence.)(The Supreme Court doesn't have to and hasn't always had 9 members.)(William Taft never got stuck in a bathtub.)(Washington D.C. hasn't always been our capital.)(George Washington wasn't the first president.)
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/146405
6499.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember Kinder being German instead of Italian?(Is the logo or anything else off?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder_Chocolate
6500.(TV Show name change.)The Making Of A MurdeMaking A Murderer(Other names?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Making_a_Murderer
6501.(Music Lyrics change.)"Four calling birds."/"Four colly birds."
https://genius.com/Christmas-songs-the-twelve-days-of-christmas-lyrics
6502.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember there being more than 2 Home Alone movies with the original cast?
http://homealone.wikia.com/wiki/Home_Alone
Add-On: Do you remember the Starbucks Coffee not having a star in the crown?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbucks
6503.(Famous Actor name change.)Jack Nicolson/Jack Nickelson/Jack Nickolson/Jack Nicholson
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Nicholson
6504.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different or not a thing?(Male kangaroos are starting to look more muscular and their privates are changing and other things, more King Arthur history changes, people can blow smoke through their eyes, stomach vacuuming, more walking fish and other things, belly inflation and weird stuff surrounding that, people changed their opinions about marijuana and other drugs randomly, graves' disease, dirty thunderstorms, more geography changes, Washington's birthday and Presidents' Day and what's official and what's not and other stuff, Columbus Day and whether it's federal and observed everywhere or not, more liquefaction stuff, 5 attacks on US soil during WW2, more animals that are only female or without a gender, researchers made mice with 2 dads, Danio Rerio, rainbows are actually circles, the last battle of the American Revolutionary War and other stuff, lots of weather changes in the Middle East and flowers growing in the desert, Jesus was a stonemason, solar system was another universe merging, category of earth's sun, 8-track tapes, tonsil stones, bark beetles and other stuff, horse itches head with food, giraffe(Girrafe?)itches ear with foot, Saddam Hussein(Other spellings?)wrote a romantic novel you can buy, lake turns animals to stone, more animals walking on two legs, naming natural disasters and other stuff, African gray parrot with red tail, Abraham Lincoln may have been gay, Australian sea foam, Mississippi River rip in the flesh, Torpedo Alley, Chinese pyramids are secret, Antarctic pyramids, hand gestures, walking trees, ASMR history.)(Video below.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fpw6GtA0TsM
6505.(Music Lyrics change.)"And thank God it's our last."/"I pray God it's our last."(Other lyrics?)(Do any of the other lyrics look off?)
https://genius.com/The-pogues-fairytale-of-new-york-lyrics
6506.(Music Lyrics change.)"And since there's no place to go."/"And since we've no place to go."(Let It Snow/Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!)(Do any of his logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Dean-martin-let-it-snow-let-it-snow-let-it-snow-lyrics
6507.(Music Lyrics change.)"I come from the land down under."/"I come from a land down under."(Other lyrics?)(Land Down UndeDown Under)(Do any of their logos look off?)
https://genius.com/Men-at-work-down-under-lyrics
6508.(Famous Politician name change.)F. W. Deklerk/F. W. DeKlerk/F. W. deKlerk/F. W. de Klerk(Frederick William/Frederik Willem)(Were Frederik and Frederic never acceptable spellings of Frederick?)(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._W._de_Klerk
6509.(Famous Actor name change.)John Delancie/John DeLancie/John De Lancie/John de Lancie(Other spellings?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_de_Lancie
6510.(Can't think of a title.)Do you remember these things being different or not a thing?(Blood types that are more common or new and other weird stuff about them, Sysco logo keeps changing, weird stuff surrounding the mouse deer, Watusi bull with enormous horns and some think they've gotten bigger and other stuff surrounding his existence and the bulls in general, new info about the famous Alcatraz escapes and history changes, blobfish keep changing appearance and tons of other weird sea animals, more Golden Gate Bridge changes, weird new old tower becomes country known as Sealand and these towers didn't exist before and weird stuff similar to it and surrounding it, Tartary and everything about it, secretary bird and everything about it, cactus bucks and everything about them, owls and other birds' legs have changed, sun-dimming experiment to try to cool earth, tumbleweeds take over town and are appearing in new places, Mount Olympus is real, butterflies eating and drinking more and more, more new DNA types, more weird cats and new changes, coconut crab attacks bird and other stuff, new island in Hawaii, Conch Republic and other stuff surrounding geography, forgotten New York fire, more Vitruvian Man changes, more Mount Rushmore changes, more Shiva changes, lots of recent strange waves, Statue Of Liberty original torch being moved, Andrew Zimmern was Zimmerman then Zimmer, Nefertiti Bust stuff, Crazy Horse stuff.)(Video below.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LSnyWpG3x0E
6511.(Movie Quote change.)"Toodaloo!"/"Hello!"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7m8_QLnRBFo
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2018.08.04 13:23 stefan_bradianu History of Galicia

This ia part of a series of posts about the history of the regions of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Last time we did Transylvania link:https://www.reddit.com/austriahungary/comments/947pzm/the_histroy_of_transylvania/?utm_source=reddit-android Next we will do Bukovina link (when it will be up): If you have any information about Bukovina say it in the comments.
Ancient history of Galicia:
Ancient Galicia was populated by the Slavic tribes of Dulibes(Duliby/Duleby) and White Croatians (White Croats / Bili Khorvaty), Ulyches (Ulychi), Tyverians (Tivertsi/Tivertsy), Buzhanians with Derevlians (Derevlyany) and Vohlynians (Volyniany) on the north. Before 980 (when these lands were incorporated into Kyivan Rus) it was a loose tribal confedaration with political center in Peremyshl (modern city Przemysl, at Ukrainian Polish border) under Polish influence. During that period western christianity (in Roman Catholic form) was partly rooted there from the west, what is witnessed by ruins of some Roman style churches of pre-Orthodox christianization (988) period as in village Bishche and Transcarpathia especially. In 10 th century (980) these tribes were conqered by Kievan Rus Prince Volodymyr (Vladimir). He established the town Volodymyr there and a few small principalities were formed in Halych, Terebovlya and Volodymyr. The Galician territory was started to be refferred as a Red Rus (or Red Ruthenia) then. The final formation of united Galician principlity occured during the reign of Prince Volodymyr of Galicia in 1124 -1152. Volodymyr united small Galician principalities with its capital in Halych (first citation in 1140, Halych is the root for the name Halychyna-Galicia).
In 1152-87 Galicia was ruled by prince Iaroslav Osmomysl (Yaroslav Os'momysl). He expaneded the Galician principality to the Danube. Hungarian king Bela III occupied Galicia in 1189 and became "King of Halychyna". Galicia was ruled by Hungarians until Roman, prince of Volhynia managed to take it back. Roman started his rule in 1170 in Vohlynia. Vohlynia (Volyn/Vohlyn) was a principality north of Galicia. In 1199 Volyn (Volhynia) and Galicia were united under the rule of Prince Roman (of Smolensk) . In 1205 Prince Roman dies and the struggles for his legacy begin. In 1214, Boiaryn Volodyslav Kormylchych became Prince of Galicia. The political situation during his rule in Galicia was very unstable and Hungarians and Poles concluded Hungarian-Polish treaty regarding the government of Galicia in town of Spish. It was a time when firts Mongol invasion started and in 1223 Battle at the Kalko River, th first conflict with the Mongol-Tatars.
Shortly Volyn was united by the sons of Roman in 1227. Roman's son prince Danylo (Daniel / Danilo / Daniil) took Galician throne in 1238. The dominance of Halychyna by Prince Danylo was the greatest page in Galician History. In 1239 Kyiv (Kiev) was taken under the rule of Prince Danylo. 1239-42 Massive Mongol-Tatar invasion of Batia (1240 fall of Kyiv). 1245 Battle at Iaroslav (Jaroslaw). Danylo defeated Poles and Hungarian there and it was the end of the Hungarians-Polish kings in the struggle for Prince Roman's Legacy. 1250s Settlement of Lviv (Lemberg, Lwow) by Prince Danylo. Danylo named Lviv after his son Lev (Leo). In I253 Prince Danylo was coronated by a Papal Delegate. Great Danylo dies in 1264 and dark times start in Galician history. In 1259-60: Tatar campaigns (Byrynday) against Halychyna and Volyn. 1264- c. 1301 reighn of Lev I, son of Danylo. Lev moves capital of Galicia from Halych to Lviv/Lwow/Lvov/Lemberg (which was established by his father Danylo in 1250 and named after Lev's name).
Galician Medieval History: dates sketch:
After battles for Lublin between Galicia and Poland in 1300s Lublin was annexed to Polish Kingdom. Galicia dominates Transcarpathia meanwhile. 1286 Devastation of Galicia and Volyn by the Tatars (Telebuha). 1292 Last of the Galicia-Volhynia Chronicles. 1300s: Yuriy I, "King of Rus', Prince of Volodymyr". c. 1303: Beginnings of the Metropolitan in Halychyna (-1347). 1316: Union of Andrew and Lev, Princes "of all of Rus', Halychyna and Volodymyr" with Teutonic Princes. 1320s: Last of the descendents of Prince Roman. Boleslav Iuriy, Prince "of all Malo Rus'". 1330s: Marriage of Prince Yurij with the daughter of Gedymin (1331); campaign on the territories of Lublin (1337). 1339: Prince Yuri deeds the town of Sianok to German rule. 1340: † Yuriy-Boleslav. Boyaryn Dmytro Dedko -- "steward of the Rus' lands"; Liubart -- prince of Volyn.
Galicia under Hungarian and Polish rules: Dates sketch:
Polish king Kasimir advances againts Galicia and wins the battle in 1349. This is was the key turning point in the hisory of independent Galician Kingdom. It stopped to exist forever. 1370-87: Galicia ruled by Hungary. Since Polish king was at the same time king of Hungary for a while. 1372-78: Volodyslav Opolskiy, last Galician Prince. 1375: Organizations of the Roman Hierarchy in Galicia, final step to subjugate local Orthodox population. 1387-1772: Galicia ruled by Poland 1425: First record of artisan guilds in Lviv. 1430-Western Podillia is annexed by Poland; establishment of Polish on Polish-Ukrainian territory. 1463: First citation of the Church Brotherhood (Uspensky in Lviv). 1490-92: Uprising against Poland in Galicia led by Mukha. 1538: Final transfer of Bukovyna/Bukowin (former Galician Land) to Turkish sovereingty, Moldovan commander Bohdan marches on Galicia. 1573: Ivan Fedorovych established a printing press in Lviv/Lwow, marking the beginning of printing in Ukraine. 1586: Lviv brotherhood maintains Stavropehian Laws. 1596: Union of Brest. Beginning of Religious struggles. 1648: Beginning of the Ukraine's struggle for liberation from Poland by Bohdan Khmelnytskiy (1648-57) and his failure. Galicia was devasted by Khmelnytsky's Cossack Troops and Tatars. 1649 and 1651: Khmelnytsky's attempts at peace with Poland (Zboriv. and Bilotserk. agreements).
Galicia under Austrian rule (1772- 1918):
The negotiations between the three powers, Russia, Prussia and Austria, over the first partition of Poland were concluded on August 5, 1772. The cession treaty between the last King of Poland and Empress Maria Theresia took effect on September 18, 1773. Austria received Galicia including the Zamosc (Zamosz) district, but excluding Cracow. In the course of the later Napoleonic wars, Zamosc was to be detached from Austria as a new duchy centered at Cracow was established. It was to be subsquently annexed by Austria in 1846. In 1775 Bukovyna (Bukowin) was conqured by Austria and became another Austrian province, separete from Galicia.
On the 1st of September in 1774, the Empress issued the first settlement patent. The second settlement patent was issued on September 17, 1781, by Emperor Josef II which also allowed emigration of foreigners. This patent was supplemented by the Toleranzpatent of October 13, 1781, which proclaimed religious toleration for Protestants. In the years to come, thousands of German families emigrated into Galicia, mostly out of the Palatinate (Pfalz) and settled in newly-founded German communities or in the cities as craftsmen and artisans.
1744-64: Construction of St. George Cathedral in Lviv/Lwow/Lemberg (Rococo style). 1848: Annullment of Feudalism; Political Rebirth of Galicia. 1861: First railroad on Ukrainian territory in Galicia (Peremyshyl - Lviv). 1890: First Ukrainian Galician political party (1900 - Naddniapranska).
When serfdom was abolished in the Austrian Empire in 1848, Ukrainians launched their struggle for political representation and national autonomy. The political and social climate of succeeding decades was aptly reflected by the great reformer and writer Ivan Franko, who wrote, "I am a son of the people, the son of a nation on the rise." By the 1880's, significant changes had taken place in parliamentary practices, in local government, and the public school system. Newspapers were established and various self-help organizations were formed to promote political awareness, improve agricultural practices and facilitate Ukrainian cultural expression. This dynamic organization and political life was transported to the New World and has been a hallmark of Ukrainian Canadian communities ever since. First World War in Galicia and proclamation of Western Ukrainian National Republic (ZUNR):
At the outbreak of First World War in 1914, hostilities between Russia and Austria brought on persecution of Ukrainians by both sides. Russians suppressed all Ukrainian cultural and political activities and exiled many prominent persons to Siberia. Retreating Austrians executed many Ukrainians, who were suspected to sympathize with Russia.
Russian troops entered Austrian Galicia in September 1914 and immediately started to subdue all Ukrainian life. They arrested and exiled to Siberia many leading personalities mainly politicians, lawyers, writers, teachers and civic activists. In spring of 1915 Austrians recaptured western Ukraine but, things did not go very well for them on other fronts. In an attempt to save the Habsburg Monarchy, social and political reforms were promised. However these did not satisfy subject nationalities, including Ukrainians, who strived for complete independence.
In Russia, following the revolution in March 1917, a Provisional Government was formed headed by Alexander Kerensky. It introduced some democratic freedoms and lifted restrictions on Ukrainian cultural and political life. All political exiles, were allowed to return home. Ukraine gained the autonomy in April 1917 through formation of Central Rada (Council) headed by the historian Mykhaylo Hrushevskyi. In March the German - Austrian offensive dislodged Bolsheviks from Kyiv and Central Rada returned to the Ukrainian capital. In compliance with the terms of Brest - Litovsk Peace Treaty, Red Army left Ukrainian territory in April.
Disintegration of Habsburg Empire started in 1918. In October 1918 Ukrainian political leaders formed a state called Western Ukrainian National Republic consisting of eastern Galicia western Wolhynia and northern Bukovyna. Defending this new state were Ukrainian Galician Army, consisting of Ukrainins from former Austrian army and volunteer force called "Sichovi Striltsi" (Sich Riflemen).On November 1, Ukrainian forces occupied Lviv, which triggered war with Poles, who wanted Galicia to be part of the Polish Republic. The Polish forces captured Lviv on November 21 while Romanian army occupied Bukovyna. Nevertheless for some time to come, most of Galicia remained under control of Ukrainian government headed by Evhen Petrushevych in Stanyslaviv.
On January 22, 1919 an act of Union of western and eastern Ukrainian states was proclaimed, however ongoing hostilities prevented realization of this plan. By late July, Poles gained control over the whole Galicia. But soon Polish - Russian War started, as the leader of Eastern Ukraine (Ukraine National Republic) Symon Petlura signed the Treaty of Warsaw with Poles in April 1920 whereby he abandoned claim to Galicia and western Wolhynia for Polish military help against the Soviet Bolsheviks.
Polish and Ukrainian forces captured Kyiv on May 6, but Bolsheviks mounted a counteroffensive and progressed as far as the outskirts of Warsaw (Russians were stopped at severe Warsaw battle of 1920) before being driven back to the Right Bank Ukraine. At that occupation moment short-lived the Galician Socialist Soviet Republic (1920) was procalimed by Bolsheviks. But after Warsaw battle, in October 1920, Poles made a truce with the Soviets and in March 1921 Polish and Soviet governments signed the Treaty of Riga whereby Poland recognized the Soviet jurisdiction over Right Bank but retained Galicia and western Volhynia.
Thus after the World War I and unsuccessful struggles for independence, Galicia ended up being in Poland again. Ukrainian Galicians underwent polonization and discrimination durind these years. One could not get a state employment if he would not become Polish Roman Catholic.
Galicia in inter war Poland (1921 - 1939), German Reich (1941 - 1944), the USSR (1939-1941 / 1944 - 1991) and independent Ukraine:
Western Ukrainian Republic fell and Eastern Galicia was annexed to Poland being divided into Lwow, Tarnopol and Stanislawow voivodships (area known as Malopolska in Polish, or Kleinpolen in German/ Little Poland in English) and this was confirmed by the Treaty of Riga of 1921, between the USSR and Poland, followed a truce concluded late in 1920. In these agreements Poland promised vast autonomy and rights for local Ukrainian population but in reality it came out to be the opposite. Ukrainians were trated as second class people in Polish state, being banned from state employment even.
After the partition of spheres of influences in Poland and East Europe signed between Nazi Germany and the USSR (so called Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact), East Galicia (including Przemysl /Peremyshl) was occupied by Soviet troops on 17 th of September, 1939 (the date of "Unification of West and east Ukraine" according to Soviet historiography) and became part of Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (in the USSR then, now independent Ukraine) while minor part of West Galicia (Jaroslaw area) was a part of the provisional government of Warsaw. This division has remained to this day. Only Peremyshl area was given back to Poland the treaty was replaced in 1945 by a new Soviet-Polish border agreement. A large part of the Polish and German population of East Galicia was, following negotiations, resettled out of the Soviet area and into Poland.
1945 saw the end of the history of the settlement of Galicia by the so-called "Pfälzer Schwaben". Only a few remained, most of them having married into Polish or Ukrainian families and hoping to escape repression. Many who fled went to Germany and emigrated to the USA and Canada where their relatives had already begun to emigrate since the beginning of the 20th century.
Poles populating Eastern Galicia were moved primarily to former Germany's Western Poland, in partucular to Wroclaw and all the Ukrainians living in their native lands in Poland were moved to Ukraine (primarily ethnic Ukrainian group Lemky) and to the North of Poland (where they were not allowed to settle more than one family in the same village, in order to polonize them). This was a tragedy for Lemky people. The resettlememt operation was called "Vistula". During the II World War Galicia was place of fighting of UPA (Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which faught aginst Soviets/Germans and Poles for Ukrainian Independence) formed in 1942. "Galicia" (Galizien) German SS division was formed in 1943 out of local Ukrainian Galician population.
With the start of German Nazi occupation of Soviet Galicia in 1941, it was included into the Reich's General Gouvernement (under the Nazi-era occupation goverment of Poland), unlike Eastern Ukraine which was formed into a separate Reichskommisariat Ukraine. Hitler thought Ukrainians should get no preferential treatment and personally appointed Erich Koch to rule Reichskommissariat Ukraine (eastern Ukraine) with an iron fist.
Koch, as a member of the superior German Herrenvolk master race, started a reign of terror and oppression in East Ukraine. Koch often said that the Ukrainian people were inferior to the Germans, that Ukrainians were half-monkeys, and that Ukrainians "must be handled with the whip like the negroes." He once said that "no German soldiers would die for these niggers [Ukrainians]." Unlike Eeastern Ukrainians, Hitler palnned to germanize the Galicians. That is why Galicia was included into Reich itself, unlike Eastern Ukraine.
1943-44: Red Army fights ro regain Eastern Galicia. Emmigration starts. Eastern Galicia regained by Red Army and agan incorporated in the USSR's Soviet Ukraine. Western Galicia remained part of Poland.
8/24/1991: Verkhovna Rada adopts a resolution proclaiming Ukraine's independence.
12/1/1991: Ukraine becomes an independent nation First President Leonid Makarovych Kravchuk (who comes from Volhynia, former Galician Kingdom Lands) elected (1991-1994). Eastern Galicia becomes part of the independent Ukraine. Meanwhile minor parts of Western Galicia (Chelm - Jaroslav - Przemysl areas) remain in Poland, forming newly created Polish provinces Podkarapckie and Malopolskie Wjowodstwos, since Polish authorities did not find it proper to give a true Ukrainian name of "Galicja" to those Ukrainian areas in Poland, which they found as "non historic" and forcefully applied by Austrians to that territory of Poland.
In Galicia as a whole, the population in 1910 was estimated to be 45.4% Polish, 42.9% Ukrainian, 10.9% Jewish, and 0.8% German.[23] This population was not evenly distributed.
Sources:http://www.torugg.org/History/history_of_galicia.html and wikipedia (for the demographics)
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2018.07.19 02:46 astralrocker2001 Israel's Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”

Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”
Part 1 – America as an Israeli Colony
Dr. Lasha Darkmoon “I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government,” Jewish columnist Joel Stein wrote in the Los Angeles Times in December 2008. “I just care that we get to keep running them.”
Mr Stein’s reckless candor in admitting that the Jews ran America was to cost him his job at the LA Times.
If Americans have lost their country to organized Jewry, they lost it slowly and imperceptibly. Indeed, most Americans remain unaware that their country no longer belongs to them. They fervently believe they still live in a democracy. This was a takeover not without precedent, however. It had happened to Germany. It had happened to Russia. It has now happened to America.
Take Germany and Russia.
Germany, a mere shadow of what it might have been, is now a defeated and demoralized nation, thoroughly browbeaten by Jewry and terrified of their masters in Israel. Without stretching it too far, one could say that Germany has become Israel’s cash cow.
There is nothing particularly controversial about this observation. It had occurred to Eustace Mullins over twenty years ago:
To finance the State of Israel, which was created as a direct result of the Jewish victory over the Christian nations in World War II, Jews…now imposed enormous “reparations” demands on the conquered German people.
To date, they have extorted more than thirty-five billion dollars from German workers, money which has been collected at the points of bayonets, not Jewish bayonets but the bayonets of the American Army, which has been maintained as an occupying force in West Germany for nearly four decades, solely to provide military power behind the puppet German Government which has as its primary function the furnishing of money for the parasitic state of Israel. (See here)
In December 2009, the Israelis demanded another billion euros from Germany ($1.4 billion). The survivors of the Holocaust, surprisingly, seem to increase in number with time. This prompted Norman Finkelstein’s mother to ask somewhat cynically, after she had been cheated out of her reparations money by the rabbis who administered the Holocaust Fund: “If everyone who claims to be a survivor actually is one, who did Hitler kill?”
Mullins is not exaggerating when he says that the American troops foisted on Germany after World War II were in fact an “occupying force”: an army moreover acting on behalf, and at the behest, of organized Jewry.
It was the Morgenthau Plan, specifically designed by the vengeful Henry Morgenthau as a collective punishment against the German people for the crimes of Hitler, that was to turn post-war Germany into “the largest concentration camp on earth.”
As late as 1991, German chancellors were still being forced, like enslaved vassals under the Roman Empire, to sign an “act of submission” to their Allied conquerors.
“The Jew Morgenthau wants to turn Germany into a giant potato patch,” Goebbels complained bitterly. He was right. Anti-Semites sometimes are.
Russia too, like Germany, was to fall under Jewish domination.
According to Solzhenitsyn in The Gulag Archipelago, 66 million Russian Christians were put to death on the orders of the Cheka or Russian secret police. Those devising the tortures, and giving the orders to rape and kill ethnic Russians, were mostly Jews.
Yuri Slezkine’s candid quote from historian Leonard Shapiro is too well known to be casually dismissed: “Anyone who had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the Cheka stood a very good chance of finding himself confronted with and possibly shot by a Jewish investigator.”
Out of 388 members of the new revolutionary government in Russia, only sixteen were real Russians. “Apart from one negro,” we are told, “the rest were Jews.”
These revolutionaries did their best to hide their Jewish identities by taking new names. Lenin was originally Ulyanov, Trotsky was Bronstein, Zinoviev was Apfelbaum, Sverdlov was Solomon, Zinoviev was Radomyslsky, Radek was Sobelsohn, Litvonov was Wallach, Kamenev was Rosenfeld, Parvus was Helphand, Martov was Zederbaum, Bohrin was Nathanson. Not one of these Jewish revolutionaries was prepared to go under his own name or be identified as a Jew. Under Stalin, merely to draw attention to the fact that unpopular officials were Jewish was to incur the death penalty.
Another interesting titbit of information that court historians prefer not to mention is this: many of the Jews propping up the new Bolshevik government, happy to issue instructions for the torture and execution of Russian Christians, were actually Jews who had been shipped in from the East Side of New York.
No surprise here. After all, the man who helped to finance the Russian Revolution from his base in Wall Street—to the tune of $20 million—was Jewish American banker Jacob Schiff.
A well-known French journal, L’Illustration, had this to say in its edition of September 14, 1918:
When one comes in contact with the functionaries serving in the Bolshevik Government, one feature strikes the attention: almost all of them are Jews. I am not at all anti-Semitic, but I must state what strikes the eye. Everywhere—in Petrograd, in Moscow, in provincial districts, in commissariats, in district offices, in Smolny, in the Soviets—I have met nothing but Jews and again Jews.
Germany…Russia…America. They all fell under Jewish hegemony. They had their hour in the sun, and then they had their eclipse. It’s now America’s turn.
“Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 2002. (Widely reported, see here)
Israel, America’s albatross
In Part 1 of my article, Goodbye, America, I discussed the problems facing America today and suggested that they are far more serious than those facing National Socialist Germany in the 1930s. Of the seven problems I listed, the four most intractable ones are these:
(1) The nuclear-armed state of Israel and its Samson Option, neither of which existed as threats to peace before the establishment of the Zionist state in the wake of WW-2.
(2) The presence of 60 million Christian Zionists in America who are hand in glove with our new Masters, aiding and abetting them in their violation of international law and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.
(3) The existence of a tentacular network of Jewish organizations in America, such as the ADL and AIPAC, holding the entire country to ransom; specifically, its mercenary and morally bankrupt politicans.
(4) The lethal weapon of multiculturalism, a weapon unavailable for use against either Germany or Russia but now deployed to devastating effect against America’s Euro-American majority. “Global elites view the White Western world as the main obstacle standing in the way of a future world government,” Pat Buchanan is widely reported to have said in a 2004 speech. “Multiculturalism is a tool used by such elites to dismantle White Western civilization.”
Given that the Jews managed to achieve almost complete control of Germany and Russia even before the foundation of the Jewish state in 1948, it must surely be obvious that their executive power has increased exponentially with the acquisition of a military base in the Middle East, armed to the teeth with the deadliest nuclear warheads, many of these aimed at European capitals and some of them probably at the United States. It would be foolish to think that a country that killed Americans in cold blood in the USS Liberty attack of 1967, would have any scruples about doing so on a much vaster scale if ever America became the object of their hatred.
It is important at his point to consider the hidden facts surrounding the foundation of the state of Israel, if only because this will help us to get a better perspective of the Jewish problem.
The Jews were given Israel on the tacit understanding that most of them would go and live there, leaving the rest of the world Judenfrei or Jew-free. They reneged on their collective promise however—made implicitly on their behalf by their then leaders Theodor Hertzl and Chaim Weizmann—and they prefer now to regard Israel as a second home and place of refuge if things get too hot for them elsewhere.
Israel’s first president, Chaim Weizmann, wrote in his memoirs:
Whenever the quantity of Jews in any country reaches the saturation point, that country reacts against them. [This] reaction…cannot be looked upon as anti-Semitism in the ordinary or vulgar sense of that word; it is a universal social and economic concomitant of Jewish immigration, and we cannot shake it off. — Chaim Weizmann, Trial and Error (1949). Quoted in Albert S. Lindemann’s The Jew Accused, 1991 (p. 277).
Herzl himself had made the same point much earlier. Anti-Semitism, he wrote, is “an understandable reaction to Jewish defects.” And in his diary he added: “I find the anti-Semites are fully within their rights.” (See here)
Having been given a homeland on the tacit understanding that they had to go and live there, the Jews were clearly under an obligation to do so. The object of the exercise is otherwise defeated. So why is it that 58 percent of the world’s 14 million Jews now live in America and Europe and only 37 percent in Israel? It certainly needs to be asked: why were the Palestinians expelled from their own country in order to accommodate another people who mostly choose to live elsewhere? “Nothing here in America compares to the horrors of Palestine…Women are raped by Israeli military officials….Palestinian children are doused with gasoline and set on fire for the amusement of the IDF.” — Jonathan Azaziah, Mizrahi American Jew
It is almost universally believed, thanks to Jewish ownership of the mass media, that the UN created Israel and that everyone was delighted when this happened. This is demonstrably false. Even the US government—or 99 percent of it—was adamantly opposed to the foundation of Israel. Indeed, former Undersecretary of State Dean Acheson was one of many who raised strenuous objections to America recognizing the Jewish state, predicting that “the West would pay a high price for Israel.” In spite of all these misgivings, the Jews got their state.
In reality [Alison Weir notes] while the UN General Assembly recommended the creation of a Jewish state in part of Palestine, that recommendation was non-binding and never implemented by the Security Council.
Second, the General Assembly passed that recommendation only after Israel proponents threatened and bribed numerous countries in order to gain a required two-thirds of votes.
Third, the US administration supported the recommendation out of domestic electoral considerations, and took this position over the strenuous objections of the State Department, the CIA, and the Pentagon.
Despite the shallow patina of legality its partisans extracted from the General Assembly, Israel was born over the opposition of American experts and of governments around the world, who opposed it on both pragmatic and moral grounds. (Emphasis added)
Why the Zionist landgrabbers should now be held in such high esteem in America and elsewhere, and their Palestinian victims spat upon and spurned at every opportunity, can be easily explained.
Apart from the Jewish-owned mass media which has managed to glamorize and cast a rose-tinted glow over its Frankenstein monster, the answer lies in one word: Holocaust. The Zionists have managed to convince the world that they are the moral legatees of the victims of the Holocaust. As such, they remain the Ultimate Victims.
Like Finkelstein, we are entitled to express concern over the cheap exploitation of Jewish suffering.
It is an undeniable fact that the Holocaust is a major industry and that it is used as moral blackmail and carte blanche for monstrous crimes.
Israeli writer Ari Shavit summed it up neatly when he said: “We may murder with impunity, because the Holocaust museum is on our side”. The Enemy Within
It can be convincingly argued, with a wealth of supportive quotations, that the presence of Jews in large numbers in any given country has always had catastrophic consequences for that country. (See Weizmann and Herzl quotes above). Organized Jewry has now spread its influence far and wide via the internet, newspapers, magazines and books. Hollywood, its most effective hasbara agent, spreads its poisonous propaganda all over the world, offering the ill-educated masses its lies and distortions and its laissez-faire Freudian sexual morality. Meanwhile the porn industry, dominated by Jews, promotes the demoralization of countless millions, creating sex addicts even out of children and driving many of its victims to despair and suicide.
With the triumph of Jewry comes the subjugation and enslavement of the entire non-Jewish world. Christianity becomes the first casualty, the family unit the second. Homosexuality and radical feminism become more strident in their attitudes and more extreme in their demands, opening up a Pandora’s box of evils: the push to normalize pedophilia, for example, and the systematic corruption of children through the promotion of child porn in the classroom.
We are in a critical situation. It was never Palestine on its own that organized Jewry wanted. Palestine was simply to be their base of operations for the conquest of the rest of the world. According to Israel Shamir:
Palestine is not the ultimate goal of the Jews; the world is. Palestine is just the place for world state headquarters…..The Jews intend to turn Jerusalem into the supreme capital of the world, and its rebuilt temple into the focal point of the Spirit on Earth. Christianity will die, the spirit will depart from the nations in our part of the world, and our present dubious democracy will be supplanted by a vast theocratic state. De-spiritualized and uprooted, homeless and lonely, yesterday’s Masters of the World [WASPs] will become slaves in all but name….
The Jewish universe is good for Jews. It is a curse for others. In the US, as Jewish influence has grown steadily since 1968, the lives of ordinary people have worsened. A good time for the Jews is not a good time for mankind. The blessing of the Jews is a curse for others. The regimes that are “good for Jews” are rarely good for anybody else.
The runes are easy enough to read. From the domination of Germany and Russia, the Jews contrived to leapfrog to the domination of America.
We see through a glass darkly, but what we see through the gathering gloom is the grim specter of an American dystopia: a Third World country hardly worth living in for its rapidly diminishing Euro-American majority.
It costs the American taxpayer $12 million an hour just to keep US troops in Afghanistan, a country America decided to invade on a rollercoaster of neoconservative lies. “The neocons,” Gilad Azmon comments cuttingly in a recent book, “transform the American army into an Israeli mission force.”
Incredibly, America’s closest ally, Israel, has yet to contribute a single soldier to Washington’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nor are American Jews particularly noted for their presence, let alone their heroism, in the fighting forces. And yet they fight with their pens most valiantly, far from the din of battle. It is they who beat the war drums the loudest, who profit most from the wanton slaughter of innocents, and who “get others to fight and die for them.”
The days of wine and roses are over. The American Dream is dead. Like Germany and Russia before it, America lies vanquished. “The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years is at last within our reach. I can safely promise you that our race will soon take its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a king and every Gentile a slave.”
— Rabbi Emmanuel Rabbinovich, speech delivered at a special conference of European rabbis in Budapest, January 12, 1952 Ruled by a Jewish elite and their Shabbat goy underlings, beyond the reach of international law and hated throughout the world, America is now an Israeli colony in all but name.
Part 2 – America Under Jewish Rule
“When the world looks at America, what it sees is an Israeli colony.” — Paul Craig Roberts
America has been taken over.
Slowly and imperceptibly, duped by lies and lulled into complacency, Americans have let their country slip into the hands of a fifth column: of a hostile ethnic elite whose primary allegiance is to Israel, a country built on stolen land and engaged in systematic genocide.
This is the rogue state that is arguably responsible for the greatest mass murder in history: the catastrophe of 9-11. If scientific evidence and forensic logic are anything to go on, Israel has to be suspect number one here, given its unbroken record of terrorism and its endless breaches of international law. Any country that can orchestrate such a spectacular crime and get away with it—while somehow managing to pin the blame on nineteen Arabs with box cutters—is clearly a force to be reckoned with.
More than 200 senior military, intelligence, and law enforcement officials, including two generals, have now questioned the 9-11 Commission’s report. They have been joined by over 1500 top architects and engineers, 250 pilots and aviation experts, 400 university professors, and 250 survivors and their families. David Ray Griffin, author of eleven books on 9-11 and a distinguished professor emeritus, has concluded definitively: “All the proffered evidence that America was attacked by Muslims on 9-11 appears to have been fabricated.”
Dr Alan Sabrosky, former director of the Army War College, has upped the ante and unequivocally identified Israel as the guilty party. “What we need to stand up and say is not only did they [the Israelis] attack the USS Liberty, but that it is 100 percent certain 9/11 was a Mossad operation.”
Personally, I am not altogether sure about this. That Israel has to be Suspect Number One, given the plethora of suppressed evidence pointing in its direction, is undeniable. Unless there is an impartial investigation led by a panel of experts with no ties to Israel, we can never be sure who committed this monstrous crime.
If any further proof were needed of America’s abject enslavement to Zionist interests, however, it would be Obama’s humiliation at the hands of Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier this year. This humiliation has occurred on three separate occasions: in September 2009, in July 2010, and again only last May. Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank writes almost gloatingly of Obama flying “the white flag of surrender” in the White House—where he sat“routed and humiliated.”
Obama’s offense?
He had asked the Israelis to observe international law by stopping settlement construction on Palestinian land. He had pleaded with them to withdraw to the 1967 borders, in accordance with UN Resolution 242—a reasonable enough request which every American President before him has asked the Israelis to consider in the interests of peace.
The Israeli Prime Minister’s response? — “Israel will NOT return to the indefensible boundaries of 1967!”
So how is it that this rude and recalcitrant “ally” of America still continues to receive its $3 billion a year subsidy? Is America so besotted with love for the Jewish state that it cannot say ‘No’? Silly question. Since it rests on the Chomskyite assumption that America is still the lord and master and little Israel the dependent colony.
The riddle is easily solved if one turns Chomsky’s assumption on its head: organized Jewry, having taken over America, has transformed it into an Israeli colony. The $8.2 million per day that the American taxpayer pays his Jewish master is not a subsidy. It is tribute money. It is a tax or levy imposed on a vanquished people by their conquerors.
Hear the note of contempt for one’s own President in this extraordinary account of Obama’s humiliation at the hands of Netanyahu, his Jewish victor:
Netanyahu beat Obama like a red-headed stepchild; he played him like a fiddle; he pounded him like a big brass drum. The Prime Minister of Israel danced rings around his arrogant, professorial opponent. The Prime Minister mopped the floor with our guy….Bibi ripped him to shreds…demonstrating to the whole world that the Prime Minister of Israel has substantially more support in both the House and the Senate than the President of the United States. [Emphasis added]
I guess that says it all. Poor Obama. He has been symbolically castrated and buried in excrement up to the neck. Those 29 standing ovations Netanyahu received in Congress were equivalent to a lump of spit in the President’s face. According to political pundit Philip Giraldi, this was “the first time in recorded history that a small nation with less than eight million citizens has subjugated a much larger country with a population of more than 310 million.”
The Zionization of America is complete, with AIPAC appointing the government and 60 million Christian Zionists ready to die for their new masters in Jerusalem.
America is now Israel’s slave.
“I’ve never seen a President stand up to them. They always get what they want. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms.” (Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, 1983)
At this point I feel the need to apologize for the picture of the finger-wagging rabbi at the end of Part 1 of this essay, together with the inflammatory words he is purported to have uttered about the Jewish desire for world domination. I can hear my critics cry: “Silly airhead, why do you spout all this Protocolian poppycock? Don’t you know the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is an anti-Semitic forgery?”
Yes, I confess with a sigh that I have heard the word “forgery” often advanced as a reason not to read this brilliant political treatise, second only to Plato’s Republic in its profundity.
What I am saying, however, has nothing to do with the Protocols.
I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am a historian who is interested only in facts. Truth alone stirs my heart. Let’s take another quick look at Zionism.
In a recent essay called Why Palestine is Important, Israel Shamir presents a picture that puts this entire Protocolian nonsense into perspective:
Palestine is important because it is believed to be a linchpin of Empire, one of the key points necessary to control the world. Such was the conviction of the 19th century British Empire-builders of the Rhodes variety….Once an arcane theory developed by HJ Mackinder, it has grown up to become a driving force behind globalism …. Mackinder planned the subjugation of the whole planet to the Empire …. Napoleon [had earlier] toyed with the idea of planting Jews in Palestine as France’s foot soldiers, but there were no takers among Jews. The Brits achieved what the French could not.
Zionism, in other words, according to Shamir’s recent take on the subject, was a British inspiration and a tool in the armory of Pax Britannica. It was the way the Brits intended to conquer the world. They would plonk the unwanted Jews in Palestine as their proxies. Israel, in effect, was to be a British colony. And Lord Balfour, when he drew up the famous Balfour Declaration in 1917, had a glint in his beady little eye. He was more interested in advancing the designs of the British Empire than in being nice to the Jews.
If all this is true—and I think it possibly is—we can see what happened next. By 1948 the British Empire had collapsed in ruins. It was no longer in a position to use Israel as its cat’s paw. Another emerging nation however, the chief beneficiary of World War II, certainly was. This was America. Yet even as far back as 1948, America was largely controlled by its Jews. Their influence, though it was to grow by leaps and bounds after 1967, was enormous even in 1948.
It was the Jews who twisted President Truman’s arm and got him to give his full backing to their fledgling state. It was the Jews again, through the vengeful Morgenthau, as I indicated in Part 1 of this essay, who were to make life a living hell for the conquered Germans in the aftermath of World War II. The Jews were always in the background, it seems, the shadowy lurkers in the cabbage patch of history.
The colony that the Brits had failed to acquire in the Middle East, Israel, was inherited by America. So Chomsky was right after all. To start with, anyway. Israel was to be America’s aircraft carrier in the Middle East. The Americans would use it as a gigantic military base from which to plunder Arab oil. Nor would they have any problems with Ben Gurion’s dreams of a Greater Israel stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates. After all, why not give the Jews what they wanted?
Greater Israel was simply to be an extension of America: its fifty-first state.
Things didn’t work out as planned. The best-laid schemes of mice and men, we are told, often go askew. The tables were turned on the simple-minded Americans. The Jews were much smarter than their WASP masters could ever be. They had acquired through three thousand years of bitter experience the arts of duplicity and cunning. Guile was their genetic patrimony. They were the Ultimate Survivors.
One has to hand it to the Jews. The hitherto oppressed decided to become the oppressors. The former victims decided to take on the role of predators. The cat’s paw decided it would rather be the Cat from now on—and it became the Cat’s Pajamas. In short, the Jews took over America and turned it into a Jewish colony. As simple as that. Their American hosts were hoist with their own petard.
But why worry? American Jews are Americans, are they not? If they’re smart enough to take over America, as they have demonstrably done, why shouldn’t they proceed to the next logical step and take over the world—yes, dominate the world through America? No one denies this is America’s aim: full spectrum dominance. So if the Jews control America, and if America controls the world, doesn’t it follow logically that the Jews control the world? The logic is irrefutable.
Jewish world domination takes on a different perspective when viewed through this historical prism. No “conspiracy theories” here. No hook-nosed Jews grasping the globe in their cruel talons. No Illuminati trying to sodomize your children and drink their blood. Just logic. Just history. Just America striving for full-spectrum dominance with Jews leading the pack.
You could say the wild-eyed dreams of the Protocols have at last been realized, but not in the way their original masterminds intended.
The shape of things to come…?
Allow me now to present the testimony of Eustace Mullins, if only for the vivid pictures he presents to the mind of the terrors endured by millions of Russian Christians in Bolshevik Russia when it was under Jewish hegemony. Could this be the fate of American Christians in the not too distant future?
There are too many well documented massacres in history in which the Jews tortured and murdered their victims with the greatest glee, gloating in such barbaric practices as tearing out the hearts of women and children and smearing the blood on their faces.
The orgy of murder, torture and pillage which followed the Jewish triumph in Russia [after the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917] has never been equaled in the history of the world. The Jews were free to indulge their most fervent fantasies of mass murder of helpless victims.
Christians were dragged from their beds, tortured and killed. Some were actually sliced to pieces, bit by bit, while others were branded with hot irons, their eyes poked out to induce unbearable pain.
Others were placed in boxes…then hungry rats placed in the boxes to gnaw upon their bodies. Some were nailed to the ceiling by their fingers or by their feet, and left hanging until they died of exhaustion.
Others were chained to the floor and hot lead poured into their mouths. Many were tied to horses and dragged through the streets of the city, while the mob attacked them with rocks and kicked them to death.
Mothers were taken to the public square and their babies snatched from their arms….the baby [was] tossed into the air while another member of the mob rushed to catch it on the tip of his bayonet.
Pregnant Christian women were chained to trees and their babies cut out of their bodies. (Seehere)
“We should never forget what happened when Jews were a hostile elite in the USSR,” Prof. Kevin MacDonald notes bleakly. “The loathing and contempt for the traditional people and culture of Russia was a major factor in the avid Jewish participation in the greatest crimes of the 20th century.”
MacDonald is referring to the systematic murder of over 50 million Russians under Lenin and Stalin: a period of mass murder spanning 36 years (1917-1953).
The new American elite—as I pointed out in Part 1 of this article, “America as an Israeli Colony”—is a Jewish elite. Exactly like the elite in Bolshevik Russia and Stalin’s USSR. And it is essentially a hostile elite that “loathes the nation it rules.”
So we need to watch out.
Because what happened to millions of Russians in the first half of the 20th century—systematic genocide—could well happen to millions of Americans in the foreseeable future.
“It is quite possible,” Kevin MacDonald muses, “that we are entering into a racial dystopia of unimaginable cruelty.”
A game called Survival
The extraordinary success of the Jews, who make up only 2.5 percent of America’s population, can be attributed to meticulous organization, coordination and networking. This advantageous cohesiveness derives from an evolutionary characteristic of the Jews: an exceptionally strong ethnocentricism which has enabled them to infiltrate almost every single organization that could possibly threaten them as a group. In America, highly gifted Jews whose primary loyalty is to Israel have managed to insinuate their way into key policy positions, including the Departments of Treasury and State, the Pentagon, the National Security Council and the White House.
Over the past 24 months not a single policy maker [James Petras tells us]
has voiced any criticism of Israel’s most heinous crimes, ranging from the savaging of Gaza to the massacre of the humanitarian flotilla and the expansion of new settlements in Jerusalem and the West Bank….Many of the leading Zionist policy makers rose to power through a deliberate strategy of infiltrating the government to shape policy promoting Israel’s interest over and above the interests of the US populace.
If the goyim have lost the game of life and their hard-won freedoms to the Jews, it was because they didn’t know they were playing a game in the first place. A game for the highest possible stakes.
A game called Survival.
Conclusion
The world that awaits us, if our New Masters prevail, will be a grim dystopia. It will be a spiritual wasteland in which an unprincipled elite rides roughshod over the teeming masses. It will be a cruel world of exploitation, moral darkness, and unspeakable brutality.
“Death solves all problems,” Stalin quipped cynically. “No man, no problem.”
When mass extermination becomes the miracle cure, exciting times can be expected. In Otto Friedrich’s widely acclaimed Holocaust study, The Kingdom of Auschwitz, a concentration camp survivor is quoted as saying:
Concentration camp existence taught us that the whole world is really like a concentration camp. The world is ruled by neither justice nor morality. Crime is not punished nor virtue rewarded. The world is ruled by power. We are laying the foundation for some new, monstrous civilization.
An innocent victim of this “new, monstrous civilization”, a Palestinian child, his arm cut off by an Israeli settler for throwing a stone. (See here)
So this is where we are now: in the eye of the storm.
America, once a democracy, is now a crypto-fascist country ruled by a corporate and cosmopolitan elite. “There is no freedom, no democracy, and no government accountability in Amerika, a fascist state,”
Paul Craig Roberts concludes ruefully in one of his recent essays.
The Jews, fulfilling the wildest dreams conjured up in the Protocols, stand surveying the killing fields of the world they have conquered. Iraq and Afghanistan lie in ruins, thanks to their machinations. Iran lies in the cross-hairs, awaiting its expected doom. And meanwhile in America, as the body bags are flown in from foreign parts and the lurid circus of bread and games grinds on relentlessly, there is nothing much to live for except sex and death.
Stalin’s willing executioners, the Jews, are now the ruling elite in America. As in Weimar Germany, the Jews make most of the money and help to create a culture of neo-paganism and nihilism, decadence and despair. Nothing has changed except the country.
Russia, Germany, America — they all went down like skittles in a row.
“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.” — George Orwell, 1984
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2018.07.16 14:52 NoTapNo Abusive mother, child seeking help.

Hello everyone! I'm writing here to ask for legal advice. This is a throwaway account, because I don't want to risk anyone I know seeing this. I will reply if anyone asks me something here. This is all 100% true, and I am desperate for some help. I really don't know where else to turn, so I'm writing this in the hopes that someone can help me.
My mom is covert, deceptive, and manipulative. She has a charm to her. Even though it's fake, it does the job. She fools every person into believing what she says. I also can't rely on the rest of my family for any kind of support. I currently live in Costa Rica. It's a country in Central America. I'm originally a U.S citizen, but my parents moved here due to military job placement. Shortly after, they divorced. My mom then took custody of me, and my dad has never really been in the picture. He maybe visited once a year, and even then my mom would usually run him off. I doubt I could get his help and honestly I would rather not.
My mom's only source of income is from my dad's military pension. Ever since I was 13 she handed me the responsibility of doing all the bills. Paying them, handling the money, and also the groceries. She makes me go to the store and buy cheap food because we're on a "budget", but when she shops she always buys pricy food. When I buy food, I make sure it's enough to cover the plate but when she buys food, its barely enough to cover a quarter of the plate. People I know have commented that they don't think I eat enough, but my mom says that she thinks I eat too much. I also cook, and clean the house, and she rarely does anything. She actually stopped cooking altogether and has made me cook for the both of us since I was about 11. Currently I'm an 18 year old guy. For reasons unknown to me my mom would never let me go to a public school. I was only allowed to attend a private school. I had to stay out for 2 years because we couldn't afford the one nearest to us. Eventually my dad began chipping in so I could return to school. The last school I was in was a Conservative/Christian school, which used the A.C.E Curriculum. It's a horror of a curriculum, but to sum it up, it's biased and inaccurate information. The system was set up so that the students sat down in front of a cubicle and you do all of the work yourself. If you need help with anything, you raise a flag, and then the teacher will assist you. The students also have to check their own work. It's a system set up so teachers' work as little as possible and indoctrinate the kid as much as possible. When I was 11, maybe 12 at most, my mom's friend suggested we all go to this pizza place/bar. We went there and it was fine at first, as it was only us and the guy who owned the place. Eventually my mom and her friend got quite a bit drunk, and no one told me to go elsewhere. So I had to stay and watch the owner finger and give oral sex on my mom. This of course petrified me as I didn't understand what was going on and my mom had her pants off. Later on that year, my mom met a guy on a dating site. She asked me if it was okay if he slept with her. I said sure. I had no clue she meant have sex. He arrived a few hours later and once in bed they immediately began to have sex. We live in a 700 square foot rustic cabin with paper thin walls so I could hear everything they were doing. The noises they were making and the screaming also scared and petrified me yet again. I understood what was going on but it freaked me out.
One day I was watering one of our trees. It was the dry season, so for none of our trees to die we had to water them. I was 13 at this time. I figured I'd be able to water the tree faster if I removed the nozzle part of the hose. I placed it on a rock, and after I finished watering all the plants I went to retrieve the piece, but it was gone. I then went and told my mom what happened, and she freaked out. She said it was from her grandmother and was a special gift. I found out later this was a lie. She then said that I should be ashamed of myself. She then made me search for it. She made me get a rake, and didn't let me stop until around 12pm. The next day was much the same, except my mom had a guy friend of hers come over. She then told him to lecture me about this, which he did. He became very aggressive, but he eventually calmed down. I didn't find it that night either. I was made to rake until about 2am this time. The next day my mom asked why couldn't I find it. She asked if I hid it in the dirt or played with it. I was so tired I said yes. She of course didn't believe me. I then kept making up other stories. She finally believed a story where I said I threw it in a river, absurd as that was. Later I was watering the trees and plants and I found it. Apparently it fell into a bunch of leaves. I then went inside gleefully about my discovery, to which she freaked out and asked why I lied. I told her why, this made her become extremely aggressive and she verbally abused me. A few hours later, I rolled my eyes in frustration. It may of seemed like a rude thing to do, but after she forced me to work so hard and called me a little fuck and many other slurs, I was exhausted. She saw this, then grabbed me and started choking me over the sink. I pushed her back and then she claimed I tried to kill her. She then asked for a hammer, which I refused to bring, afraid she was going to use it on me. She then proceeded to get the hammer herself as well as my guitar. She slammed my guitar on the floor, then hammered it into pieces. She said that was the best way to teach me a lesson, otherwise she would of used that hammer on me. This guitar was 3 months old and a friend of hers had given it to me. She later made me lie and say I broke it accidentally.
My mom never checked my homework, and never asked if I'd finished it. She would then get mad at me when I got bad grades and tell me I wasn't fit to be a part of the family. She said I was a disgrace, and that I didn't love her. When I was nine, the school wrote a behavioral report on me. The school report stated that I was antisocial, and liked to spend my time alone in a tree. My mom saw the report and the onslaught of insults began, "You little dipshit autistic airhead" I gave her short and simple responses, and her response to that was to slam my head on the dashboard several times. Once home, she continued screaming at me. Saying I wasted her money and such. I asked her why I couldn't just go to the public school? She got real quiet on that one. She grounded me for the entirety of the summer break. Just about every day she would freak out on me. After the 4th night of no sleep due to her screaming, I became dizzy and passed out. She calmed down a bit after that but still went on aggressively the days following the rest of the break. She then tested me to see if I was "an autistic retard". She made me bang clothes hangers together, match random socks together then separate them, then rematch them over and over. She also made me clean the floor with a toothbrush and then brush my teeth with it.
When I was 14, my mom felt it was the right time to tell me about all of her abuse to justify the abuse she had put on me. She didn't word it that way, but that's what it amounted to. Personally I don't think past abuse makes it ok for someone to abuse anyone else. She told me about how her step father abused her sexually. Then she even told me about all 3 of her abortions. She told me explicitly how it happened, but the part that bothered me the most was my mom saying, "And yeah, I'll say it! The sex was SO good!" For a 14 year old, hearing it from a friend might be okay, but from your own mom? I'm sorry, but I just don't think that's normal. She has also called me about every derogatory term in the world that you can think of. She even made up her own words. I'll name a few, fuckasucka, a fuck, a bitch, a pathetic autistic fag, a little dipshit, no brain dick kid, motherfucker, a sabotager of dreams, parasite, fucking negro, fucking airhead, shithead, dipshit, a disappointment, a whiny incompetent brat, mango brain, maggot filled, handsome but an idiot, devil possessed, fuck trophy, the list goes on. She called me these names as far back as when I was 5.
When I was 13, I got a job painting a restaurant. Once the job was done, I was payed decently, for a 13 year old. I bought a small flip phone to call friends and play games on. 3 days later my mom flips out due to me drinking some chocolate milk that we were sharing. I drank half of it, which was my fair share. She then proceeded to grab the phone, throw it on the ground, stomp on it and smash it into bits. Once my dog had ingested a toxic fluid, and we'd just gotten him back from the vet. He peed on the floor, and my mom freaked out. She cleaned the pee up, and then proceeded to put the rag on my face and smother me with it. Almost daily she demands I do things. If I don't do them fast enough, she attempts to guilt trip me and scream about how I don't love her enough. She said if I did I'd do things quicker and by her style. Then she said I must want her to die of a stroke. I had a friend over once, (one of the seldom times that was allowed). He tried to show me how to do how to do yoga. We were doing it for about half an hour, then my mom yelled at me to come over to her. She started yelling at me about how I shouldn't spend so much of my time and attention on such stupid things. How instead I could spend my time and attention on her instead of something as stupid and silly as yoga, and that I shouldn't make her jealous. She also cussed my friend out.
She has also called me autistic more times than I can count, and I'm not even autistic. Along with that one she says I'm walking a fine line of being here or being on the street because I never have her back, and that I don't love or respect her enough. She has threatened to kick me out dozens of times over the course of my childhood. The worst of these events was when I was 15. I didn't make her coffee strong enough, so she had a fit over it and made us get into the car. She said she'd drop me off in town and I could starve for all she cared. She said that this was tough love and I needed to learn what love was. She also went on about the police saying, "If you tell the police, who do you think they will believe? Me, a wonderful and caring mother, or you, the little gringo jerk dipshit?" I had to sneak my first relationship. Eventually it failed due to my mom not letting me see her. It devastated me. I hadn't experienced this type of heartbreak before. For days I kept it under radar, but eventually I was caught crying like a baby. I told her what had happened, and she brushed it off like nothing had happened. She grounded me, and told me how I couldn't feel love. If I'm on her good side, she's fine. But this is rare due to me never being able to do anything the way she wants it. If I'm on her bad side, it usually turns into a lecture. When I say lecture, I mean her screaming her lungs out at me about how I can never survive without her. About how I'll need her forever, how she worries what will happen to me when I die, how I'm so irresponsible. How God must hate me due to my actions and lack of affection towards her. How God will send me to Hell for my disobedience, to which I now scoff as I'm an atheist, partially due to her usage of the Bible against me. I began to think if this God is real he can't be that way. So I investigated and it lead me down a path to skepticism. My mom is also an anti-vaxxer. In Costa Rica it's required by law to have your vaccines, so my mom has always forged fake vaccine papers for me. She hates doctors, and thinks they are of the Devil and out to get humanity in their satanic scheme. Eventually I was pretty decent at designing things online. So she realized this and made me update the fake documents. Eventually a few of my mom's friends wanted me to make them some, so she made me do that as well. I most likely did over 15 fake vaccine records. I enjoyed doing it since it was one of the few times my mom was happy with me. My mom has always forced me to walk to the store, as it was close, and buy her cigarettes. This began when I was 9, and still continues to this day. One time my mom made me go to the store and purchase red wine. The police walked in and I almost peed myself in fear. I stayed in the back of the store until they were gone. The few times I resisted the store trips she threatened me with Hell fire along with me not loving her enough. If I did what she wanted I got an ice cream, but no ice cream is worth the fear of police seeing you with cigarettes. When I was 4, I was playing with my cat. I'd throw him slightly into the air, no higher than my shoulder. He wasn't screeching in pain or any such thing. My mom sees me doing this and freaks out. She then beat me with some object, checked the cat and saw he was fine but still grounded me. I was forced to go to her room, was locked in, and given some vitamins. One of them was Niacin. For those of you that don't know, Niacin makes you all red and itchy. I started to worry and called for my mom. I asked her if she knew why such a thing would happen, and she said that I must be dying. Let me just say for my four year old mind that scared the living shit out of me. During a whole semester of school, I took care of her. Actually, now that I think of it, she wasn't even sick. I think she faked it the entire time. She said I didn't need to go school since she wasn't feeling alright. I rarely went to school that semester. At the end of the semester I got my report card. Somehow I still managed to maintain B's in all subjects except Literature, which I got a D- in. She freaked out and said if I had a score below C I could never get into college or get a job, and that my life was ruined. With such news I ran away and almost committed suicide as I thought my life was over. Thankfully I didn't. I returned to my mom's house, and she denied saying anything the previous night. When I discuss anything with my mom and I don't agree with her opinion, it's either Hell fire wrath, God hates me, or I'm going to burn in Hell because God punishes evil little children. I mentioned my depression to her, and she freaked on me saying it's impossible for youth to have depression. That they don't even know what real life is like. She continued about how I shouldn't be depressed and I needed to pray more and that would cure it. I prayed and it never cured it. After I became an atheist my depression got better. I think I was sexually abused. I don't remember too much, but I'll tell you what happened and you can decide if I was. Once when I was 4 years old, I woke up and my mom came in my room. She came over to my bed and forced something into my anus. It was very painful, and I hated it. When I asked her why she did it, she said, "because I'm your mommy". This continued on for a while, and I always put up a fight but she never stated a valid reason for why she did it. I asked a friend about this and he asked me if I've ever had any kind of anal diseases or parasites. As far as I know I haven't had any of the diseases required to get anal pills. My mom has also made me cuddle up to her and snuggle with her in bed. She either spooned me or made me spoon her. She said she wanted me to do this because she was either sad, alone, or feeling sick when she wasn't five minutes ago. Sometimes I didn't do this and she was okay with it. Most of the time though she wasn't and she'd flip out and say things like, "You must not love me" etc. Over the years my mom has also commented on my bulge when I've been walking around the house in the morning with just underwear on. She'd say things like, "I'm sure you'll impress your wife the night you get married!" or "My you are really mature down there! I'm so glad you're growing well handsome young man!" Sometimes, mainly when I was around 15, she'd get in my bed, slap me on the butt, laughed and said, "I'm glad you still have an ass and it hasn't gone away from sitting a lot!". Why would my mom say these things to me? One time I tried to tell my grandmother these things, and she freaked out on me and told me to never demean her daughter and never lie about her ever again. She's the closest relative I have, and the rest are either dead, or are dysfunctional themselves, and I don't have much contact with them. If they contact her, she'll spin stories. The only person in the family that ever did stick up for me was my aunt. My mom then proceeded to scream at her and my aunt gave up. My aunt is dysfunctional, and currently homeless so she's not an option. My mom can make any story against her sound like it's the opposite persons fault and not hers. Discussion is futile. If I were to call the police about this, she'd twist it around. This country is a "take the woman's story above all" type of justice system. I've thought of going to a therapist, if possible it might be a good idea. If there's any issue mentally that I don't realize I have, then I want to get as much help for it as I can.
What can I do? I think my only option is to leave this country and return to the United States. What legal support can I get? Once I'm back in the states how do I make sure she can't get into my life or even attempt to do so? How do I even get there with no money or resources? Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for reading this.
TL;DR : My mom is abusive, and I am looking for legal advice as well as advice on how to leave her and return to the U.S. I'm also 18 and don't have a diploma and can't work here due to it.
EDIT: Somehow Reddit removed my paragraphing, kind of fixed at the moment.
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2018.06.21 04:11 WrestleFan89 Matches I watched last summer (with star ratings). Soon to be starting a new project for this summer.

Wrestling matches and events watched this summer (2017)
0. Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant--WrestleFest 1988 Steel Cage Match 7/31/88 **1/2 0. AJ Styles vs Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayn vs Baron Corbin vs Dolph Ziggler vs Shinsuke Nakamura--MITB 2017 **** 0. Road Warriors vs Samoan Swat Team--Clash of the Champions VIII **1/2 0. Ricky Steamboat vs Tully Blanchard--Starrcade 1984 NWA TV Title **** 0. Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes--Starrcade 1984 NWA World Title *** 0. Bret Hart vs Hakushi--In Your House 5/95 **** 0. Stan Hansen vs Jerry Blackwell--AWA World Title Oakland 1986 *** 0. The Fabulous Ones vs The Moondogs--Memphis 1/9/84 *** 0. Ricky Steamboat, Shane Douglas, and The Rock 'n' Roll Express vs The Hollywood Blonds and The Heavenly Bodies (Prichard & Lane)--WCW Worldwide 2/27/93 ***1/2 0. The Steiners vs Steve Williams & Terry Gordy (Non-Title)--WCW Worldwide 9/26/92 ***3/4 0. Jerry Lawler vs Rick Rude--Memphis CWA Southern Heavyweight Title 6/11/84 *** 0. Hulk Hogan vs Paul Orndorff--WWF Big Event WWF Championship Match 8/86 ***1/2 0. Shawn Michaels vs King Kong Bundy--King of the Ring Qualifying Match RAW 5/22/95 **1/2 0. Dynamite Kid vs Mark "Rollerball" Rocco--World of Sport unknown date *** 0. The Road Warriors vs The Midnight Express--Crockett Cup '87 4/11/87 *** 0. Lex Luger vs Michael Hayes--NWA Worldwide U.S. Title 6/10/89 ** 0. The Eliminators vs The Dudley Boys--ECW Hostile City Showdown 1997 ECW Tag Team Title *** 0. Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon--WCW Starrcade 1996 Cruiserweight and J-Crown Title ****1/4 0. The Smoking Gunns vs Yokozuna & Owen Hart vs Razor Ramon & Savio Vega vs Psycho Sid & 1-2-3 Kid--RAW Bowl Match Raw 1/1/96 ***1/2 0. The Rock 'n' Roll Express vs Randy Savage & Lanny Poffo--Memphis 6/25/84 ****1/4 0. Carlos Colon vs Stan Hansen--Bullrope Match WWC (Puerto Rico) 1/6/87 **** 0. Nobuhiko Takada vs Kazuo Yamazaki--UWF Japan 2/27/89 *** 0. Sixteen Man Torneo Cibernetico Match Negro Casas, Atlantis, Ultimo Dragon, El Dandy, Mascara Magica, Shocker, La Fiera & Brazo de Oro vs. Black Warrior, Dr. Wagner Jr., El Hijo del Santo, El Satanico, Felino, Kevin Quinn, Scorpio Jr. & Silver King--CMLL Super Viernes – 41. Aniversario de Arena Mexico @ Arena Mexico, 4/18/1997 ****1/2 0. Petey Williams vs AJ Styles vs Chris Sabin--TNA Final Resolution 2005 X-Division Title Ultimate X Match ***** 0. 20 Man Battle Royal--Saturday Night's Main Event 3/14/87, taped 2/21/87 ***1/2 0. The Funks vs Abdullah the Butcher & The Sheik--AJPW RWTL Finals 12/15/77 **** 0. Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard vs Sting & Dusty Rhodes--NWA Clash of the Champions II World Tag Team Title Match 6/8/88 *** 0. The Super Powers, The Road Warriors, & Paul Ellering vs The Four Horsemen (Flair, Arn, Tully, & Luger) & The War Machine--NWA Great American Bash 1987 War Games 2 7/31/87 ***** 0. Kiyoshi Tamura vs Masahito Kakihara--UWFi 2/25/94 **1/2 0. Jerry Lawler vs Dutch Mantell--Memphis Barbed Wire Match, No Time Limit, No DQ Southern Heavyweight Title 3/29/82 *** 0. Ric Flair vs Terry Funk--NWA Great American Bash 1989 NWA World Title 7/23/89 ***** 0. Hulk Hogan vs King Harley Race--Saturday Night's Main Event 3/12/88 ***1/2 0. Randy Savage vs Ted DiBiase--Saturday Night's Main Event 3/12/88 **** 0. Kevin Von Erich vs Terry Gordy--WCCW 1/26/83 **1/2 0. Brian Pillman vs Jushin Liger--WCW Monday Nitro 9/4/95 ***3/4 0. Ricky Steamboat vs The Honky Tonk Man--WWF Superstars Intercontinental Title Match 6/13/87 ** 0. Tiger Mask II (Misawa) vs Kuniaki Kobayashi--AJPW 6/21/85 **** 0. Riki Choshu & Killer Khan vs The Road Warriors--AJPW 3/14/85 *** 0. Rick Rude vs Hercules--WWF Wrestling Challenge Non-Title Match 4/30/89 ** 0. Jerry Lawler vs Randy Savage--Memphis Cage Match 12/12/84 **** 0. Scott Steiner vs Ricky Steamboat--WCW Worldwide TV Title 9/92 *** 0. Stan Hansen vs Kenta Kobashi--AJPW 7/29/93 ***** 0. Bret Hart vs Mankind--WWF Shotgun Saturday Night 1/25/97 ***1/2 0. Dick Togo, Mens Teioh, & Taka Michinoku vs Great Sasuke, Gran Naniwa, and Gran Hamada--ECW 4/7/97 ****1/2 0. Ric Flair & Barry Windham vs The Midnight Express--Clash of the Champions IV ****1/4 0. Tommy Dreamer & Terry Funk vs Raven & Brian Lee--ECW CyberSlam 1997 2/22/97 *** 0. Tommy Dreamer & Terry Funk vs Raven & Shane Douglas--ECW Hardcore TV 4/3/97, taped 3/30/97 *** 0. Sting & Lex Luger vs The Steiner Brothers--WCW Super Brawl World Tag Team Title Match 5/19/91 ***** 0. Hulk Hogan & Randy Savage vs Kevin Sullivan & Butcher--WCW Clash of the Champions 30 1/25/95 **1/2 0. Ted DiBiase vs Junkyard Dog--Mid-South Wrestling North American Title No DQ Match 6/26/82 **1/2 0. Edge vs John Cena--WWE New Years Revolution WWE Championship (MITB Cash in) *1/2 0. Demolition vs Strike Force--WrestleMania IV World Tag Team Title Match 3/27/88 *** 0. El Generico vs Chris Hero--ROH Epic Encounter 3 3/20/10 *** 0. Bret Hart vs Rowdy Roddy Piper--WrestleMania VIII Intercontinental Title Match 4/5/92 **** 0. Bret Hart vs Vader--WWF Friday Night's Main Event WWF Championship Match 8/29/97 *1/2 0. Jun Akiyama vs Stan Hansen--AJPW 9/3/94 ***1/2 0. Jerry Lawler vs King Konga (The Barbarian)--Memphis Southern Heavyweight Title 2/18/84 *1/2 0. Mitsuharu Misawa vs Vader--AJPW Triple Crown Title 10/30/99 **** 0. Bret Hart vs The Warlord--WWF Wrestling Challenge 5/19/91, taped 4/16/91 ** 0. Greg Valentine vs Ron Garvin--WWF Superstars 4/22/89 **1/2 0. Greg Valentine vs Ron Garvin--WWF Superstars 4/29/89 *** 0. The Killer Bees vs The Islanders--WWF Wrestling Challenge 5/17/87 **1/4 0. The Can-Am Connection vs The Islanders--WWF Superstars 6/6/87 ** 0. Dusty Rhodes vs Akeem--WWF Wrestling Challenge 11/19/89 * 0. Legion of Doom vs Demolition--WWF Wrestling Challenge 2/10/91 ** 0. The Superpowers, The Road Warriors, & Paul Ellering vs The Four Horsemen (Flair, Arn, Tully, & Luger) & JJ Dillon--Great American Bash 1987 War Games 1 7/4/87 ***** 0. Super Calo vs Psychosis--WCW Nitro 3/24/97 ** 0. Sid Vicious vs La Parka--WCW Saturday Night 8/7/99 * 0. The Skyscrapers vs The Ding Dongs--NWA Pro 8/?/89 *1/2 0. The Rockers vs The Colossal Connection (Andre & Haku)--WWF Ultimate Challenge Special 3/25/90 ** 0. The Ultimate Warrior vs Andre the Giant--WWF Intercontinental Title Match MSG 10/28/89 1/2* 0. The Barbarian vs Vader--WCW Main Event 2/7/93 **1/4 0. Stan Hansen vs Jumbo Tsuruta--AJPW Triple Crown Unification match 4/18/89 **** 0. Vader vs Mitsuharu Misawa--AJPW 3/28/99 ***1/2 0. Andre the Giant & Antonio Inoki vs The Strong Machines--NJPW 12/14/84 *1/2 0. Rick Martel vs Michael Hayes--AWA Non-Title Match 7/27/85 ** 0. Jerry Lawler & Bill Dundee vs Soldat Ustinov & Doug Somers--AWA World Tag Team Title 10/11/87 **1/2 0. The Rock 'n' Roll Express vs Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard--NWA Pro 9/29/87 World Tag Team Title Match *** 0. Dusty Rhodes, Nikita Koloff, Lex Luger, Steve Williams, and Paul Ellering vs The Four Horsemen (Flair, Arn, Tully, & Windham) and JJ Dillon--Great American Bash Tour War Games 7/16/88 ****1/2 0. The Rockers vs The Twin Towers--WrestleMania V 4/2/89 *** 0. The Rockers vs The Orient Express--WrestleMania VI 4/1/90 *** 0. The Midnight Express vs The Freebirds--Clash of the Champions VII World Tag Team Title Match 6/14/89 *** 0. Ricky Steamboat vs Terry Funk--Clash of the Champions VII 6/14/89 **** 0. Bobby Roode vs Roderick Strong--NXT NXT Title Match 7/5/17 ***3/4 0. Toshiaki Kawada vs Gary Albright--AJPW 10/25/95 ****1/4 0. Scotty Riggs vs Loch Ness--WCW Nitro 2/12/96 1/2* 0. Scott Norton & Steve Doll vs The Grappler & The Equalizer--PNW 11/17/90 *1/2 0. Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Yuji Nagata--WCW Worldwide 4/4/98 *1/2 0. Grandmaster Sexay & Steve Blackman vs X-Factor-Heat 4/1/01 (WrestleMania X-7 pre-show) ** 0. Demolition vs The Twin Towers-WWF House Show Copps Coliseum WWF Tag Team Title Match 5/1/89 ** 0. Matt Hardy vs The Miz vs Mark Henry vs Finlay vs Chavo Guerrero--WWE Unforgiven 2008 ECW Championship Scramble Match 9/6/08 **** 0. Batista vs JBL vs Kane vs Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho--WWE Unforgiven 2008 World Heavyweight Championship Scramble Match 9/6/08 **1/4 0. Diesel vs Jeff Jarrett--WWF Raw WWF Championship match 2/20/95 **1/2 0. Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels--WWF House Show Portland, ME Intercontinental Title Ladder Match 7/22/92 **** 0. Brock Lesnar vs Samoa Joe--WWE Great Balls of Fire Universal Title Match 7/9/17 *** 0. The Road Warriors vs Ivan & Nikita Koloff--NWA Superstars on the Superstation 2/7/86 ** 0. The Road Warriors vs The Samoan Swat Team--NWA Power Hour 6/23/89 ** 0. Barry Windham vs Arn Anderson--WCW Slamboree 1993 NWA World Title Match 5/23/93 ***3/4 0. Midnight Express vs Southern Boys--WCW Great American Bash 1990 US Tag Team Title Match 7/7/90 ***** 0. Big Van Vader vs Tom Zenk--WCW Great American Bash 1990 7/7/90 *1/2 0. Doom vs The Rock 'n' Roll Express--WCW Great American Bash 1990 World Tag Team Title Match 7/7/90 ***3/4 0. Sting vs Ric Flair--WCW Great American Bash 1990 NWA World Title Match 7/7/90 **** 0. Jumbo Tsuruta vs Terry Gordy--AJPW Triple Crown Title Match 6/5/90 *** 0. Steve Williams & Terry Gordy (The Miracle Violence Connection) vs Big Josh & Marcus Bagwell-- WCW Saturday Night Unified Tag Team Title Match 8/15/92 ** 0. Rick Rude vs Marcus Bagwell--WCW Saturday Night US Title Match 3/28/92 ** 0. Tatsumi Fujinami vs Genichiro Tenryu--NJPW 4/29/96 **** 0. Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Psicosis--12/5/95 WAR Super J Cup 1995 ****1/4 0. Mitsuharu Misawa, Tsuyoshi Kikuchi, & Jun Akiyama vs Toshiaki Kawada, Akira Taue, & Masa Fuchi--AJPW 2/26/95 **** 0. Goldberg vs Raven--WCW Nitro US Title Match 4/20/98 **1/2 0. Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue (The Holy Demon Army) vs The Can-Am Express (Furnas & Kroffat (Phil Lafon))--AJPW 11/17/93 ***1/2 0. Akira Taue vs Steve Williams--AJPW Champions Carnival Final 4/20/96 **** 0. Terry Funk vs Stan Hansen--AJPW 9/11/82 *** 0. The Fabulous Ones vs The PYT Express--Memphis 6/25/84 ***1/2 0. The Enforcers vs Ricky Steamboat & Dustin Rhodes--WCW Clash of the Champions XVII WCW World Tag Team Title Match 11/19/91 ***** 0. The Brain Busters vs The Rockers--WWF MSG 1/23/89 ****3/4 0. Mitsuharu Misawa & Jun Akiyama vs The Holy Demon Army (Kawada & Taue)--AJPW Real World Tag League Finals 12/6/96 ***** 0. Genichiro Tenryu & Jumbo Tsuruta vs Riki Choshu & Yoshiaki Yatsu--AJPW Tag Team Title Match 1/28/86 ***** 0. Dusty Rhodes, Magnum T.A., & Jerry Lawler vs Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson, & Ole Anderson--Memphis Bunkhouse Match 11/18/85 *** 0. Randy Savage vs Jimmy Snuka--WWF Saturday Night's Main Event 10/28/89 ** 0. Hulk Hogan vs Ted DiBiase--WWF Saturday Night's Main Event WWF Championship Match 10/28/89 **1/2 0. Shawn Michaels & Triple H vs The Undertaker & Mankind--WWF Raw 8/18/97 ***1/2 0. 2 Cold Scorpio vs Eddie Guerrero--ECW Hardcore TV ECW TV Title Match 4/11/95 *** 0. Masato Tanaka vs Bam Bam Bigelow--FMW 4/30/98 ***3/4 0. The Road Warriors vs The Fabulous Ones--AWA World Tag Team Title Match 10/21/84 **1/2 0. The Destruction Crew vs Paul Diamond & Greg Gagne--AWA World Tag Team Title Tournament Finals 10/1/89 *1/2 0. Scott Norton vs One Man Gang--WCW Pro 4/6/96 *1/2 0. The Great Muta vs Scott Hall--WCW Saturday Night 7/15/89 ** 0. Hulk Hogan & Junkyard Dog vs The Funk Brothers--WWF Saturday Night's Main Event 5/3/86 *** 0. The British Bulldogs vs The Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff--WWF Saturday Night's Main Event Tag Team Title Match 2/3 Falls 5/3/86 *** 0. CM Punk vs Justin Credible--WWE ECW 8/1/06 **1/4 0. The Crush Gals vs The Jumping Bomb Angels--AJW 3/20/86 ***** 0. Kenta Kobashi vs Terry Gordy--AJPW 5/21/93 ***1/2 0. The Rock 'n' Roll Express vs Ole & Arn Anderson--NWA Worldwide 8/2/86 **1/2 0. Rick Rude vs Nikita Koloff--WCW Worldwide US Title Match 7/25/92 ** 0. The Brain Busters vs Tim Horner & George South--WWF Superstars 1/7/89 * 0. Sid Vicious vs Bobby Eaton--WCW Main Event 9/30/90 *1/2 0. Hulk Hogan vs Big Boss Man-- WWF 12/17/88 **1/4 0. Hulk Hogan vs Meng--WCW Pro 3/23/96 *1/2 0. El Canek vs Mil Mascaras--WING (Japan) Be Ambitious 8/15/92 1/2* 0. The Red Rooster (Terry Taylor) vs The Widow Maker (Barry Windham)--WWF Prime Time 8/28/89 ** 0. Stan Hansen, Tracy Smothers, & Ted DiBiase vs Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi, & Jun Akiyama--AJPW 9/26/93 *** 0. Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels--WWF Survivor Series 1992 WWF Championship Match 11/25/92 ****1/2 0. The Rock 'n' Roll Express vs The Nightmares--Memphis 1/13/85 *** 0. Randy Savage vs Austin Idol--Memphis 5/14/84 ** 0. Ultimo Dragon vs Kanyon--WWE Heat 7/27/03 **1/2 0. The Legion of Doom vs The Orient Express--WWF Superstars 11/10/90 ** 0. WWE World Heavyweight Championship 20-Man Battle Royal--WWE Smackdown 7/20/07 **1/2 0. Rick Martel vs Riki Choshu--AJPW AWA World Title Match 10/18/85 **1/2 0. Kwang vs 1-2-3 Kid--WWF Wrestling Challenge 5/15/94 *3/4 0. Jerry Lawler vs King Kong Bundy--Memphis Jimmy Hart's $10,000 Challenge Match 7/26/84 *** 0. Jerry Lawler vs Ric Flair--Memphis NWA World Title Match 8/14/82 ***1/4 0. Tommy Rich vs Masao Ito--Memphis International Title Match 7/9/84 **3/4 0. Aja Kong vs Chapparita Asari--WWF Raw 12/11/95 **1/4 0. Davey Boy Smith vs The Berzerker--WWF MSG 12/29/91 *1/2 0. Cactus Jack vs Terry Gordy--IWA King of the Death matches 9/20/95 **1/2 0. Shawn Michaels, Ahmed Johnson, Sid, & Davey Boy Smith vs Yokozuna, Owen Hart, Dean Douglas, & Razor Ramon--WWF Survivor Series 1995 11/19/95 ***3/4 0. Kronik vs Bam Bam Bigelow & Chris Candido--WCW Thunder 6/14/00 *1/2 0. The Perfect Event vs Mark Jindrak & Sean O'Haire--WCW Worldwide WCW World Tag Team Title Match 7/1/00 **1/4 0. Big John Studd vs King Haku--WWF Wrestling Challenge 5/7/89 * 0. Ric Flair & Arn Anderson vs The Rock 'n' Roll Express--WCW Main Event 2/18/90 **** 0. The Steiners vs Arn Anderson & Barry Windham--WCW Main Event 6/24/90 **1/2 0. Ric Flair & Arn Anderson vs The Rock 'n' Roll Express--WCW Pro 10/6/90 ***1/4 0. The Midnight Express vs The Samoan Swat Team--NWA Clash of the Champions VI 4/2/89 *** 0. The Great Muta vs Steven Casey--NWA Clash of the Champions VI 4/2/89 ** 0. Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage--WCW Nitro WCW World Title Match 4/20/98 **1/4 0. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Savage--WCW Worldwide 1/31/98 *1/2 0. Bill Goldberg vs John Nord--WCW Worldwide 7/4/98 * 0. Taz vs Tracy Smothers--ECW CyberSlam 1997 2/22/97 ** 0. Nikita Koloff vs Mike Rotunda--NWA Super Bouts World TV Title Match 1/23/88 *1/2 0. Ric Flair vs Kerry Von Erich--World Class Parade of Champions NWA World Title Match 5/6/84 ***1/4 0. Bob Backlund vs The Narcissist Lex Luger--WWF Wrestling Challenge King of the Ring Qualifying Match 5/2/93 ** 0. The One Man Gang vs Ted DiBiase--UWF World Title Match 2/21/87 **1/4 0. The Hart Foundation vs The Rougeau Brothers--WWF Prime Time Wrestling WWF Tag Team Title Match 9/10/87 **1/4 0. The Honky Tony Man vs Bam Bam Bigelow--WWF Prime Time Wrestling Intercontinental Title Match 5/9/88 *1/2 0. Kurt Angle vs Samoa Joe vs Christian Cage vs AJ Styles vs Chris Harris--TNA Slammiversary 2007 TNA World Title King of the Mountain Match **** 0. Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage--WWF Championship Match 8/9/89 ***1/4 0. Rick Rude vs Jake Roberts--WWF Saturday Night's Main Event 10/29/88 ** 0. Demolition vs The Hart Foundation--WWF Saturday Night's Main Event WWF Tag Team Title Match 10/29/88 ** 0. Hulk Hogan vs King Haku--WWF Saturday Night's Main Event 10/29/88 ** 0. Bret Hart vs The Patriot--WWF Ground Zero: In Your House 1997 WWF Championship Match 9/7/97 ***1/2 0. Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker--WWF Ground Zero: In Your House 9/7/97 **** 0. Mitsuharu Misawa vs Jumbo Tsuruta--AJPW 6/8/90 ****3/4 0. El Dandy vs Negro Casas--CMLL 7/3/92 ****1/2 0. AJ Styles vs Abyss vs Raven vs Sean Waltman vs Monty Brown--TNA Slammiversary 2005 TNA World Title King of the Mountain Match 6/19/05 ***3/4 0. Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) vs Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan)--ROH Southern Navigation 5/9/08 **** 0. Mitsuharu Misawa vs Takeshi Morishima--NOAH Second Navigation GHC Title Match 3/2/08 **** 0. Sting vs Cactus Jack--WCW Beach Blast 1992 Falls Count Anywhere Match ****1/4 0. Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage--WWF Boston Garden House Show WWF Championship Match 5/24/86 **** 0. Dusty Rhodes vs Tully Blanchard--NWA Great American Bash $100,000 Barbed Wire Ladder Match 7/18/87 **1/2 0. The Midnight Express vs The Rock 'n' Roll Express--NWA Main Event 8/26/90 *** 0. The Midnight Express vs The Rock 'n' Roll Express--NWA Superstars on the Superstation NWA World Tag Team Title Match 2/7/86 **** 0. America's Most Wanted vs Triple X (Daniels & Skipper)--TNA Weekly PPV NWA World Tag Team Title Steel Cage Match 6/25/03 ****1/2 0. Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage--WWF Boston Garden House Show WWF Championship Match 6/26/86 ***1/2 0. The Rock vs Triple H--WWF Summer Slam 1998 Intercontinental Title Ladder Match 8/30/98 ****1/2 0. Batista vs The Great Khali--WWE No Mercy 2007 World Heavyweight Title Punjabi Prison Match 10/7/07 **1/2 0. The Steiners vs Vader & Mr. Hughes--WCW Clash of the Champions XVIII 1/21/92 ***1/4 0. Bret Hart vs Razor Ramon--WWF Royal Rumble 1993 WWF Championship Match 1/24/93 ***3/4 0. Mitsuharu Misawa vs Jun Akiyama--AJPW 2/27/00 ****1/2 0. Bret Hart vs The Undertaker--WWF One Night Only WWF Championship Match 9/19/97 ****3/4 0. Ric Flair vs Barry Windham--NWA Crockett Cup 1987 NWA World Title Match 4/11/87 ***** 0. The Steiners vs Doom--NWA Halloween Havoc 1989 10/28/89 *** 0. Lex Luger vs Brian Pillman--NWA Halloween Havoc 1989 US Title Match 10/28/89 **** 0. Jake Roberts vs Konnan vs Cien Caras--AAA 8/28/93 ** 0. The Hart Foundation vs The Powers of Pain--WWF Prime Time Wrestling 2/5/90 **1/2 0. The Road Warriors vs The Skyscrapers--NWA Halloween Havoc 1989 10/28/89 **1/2 0. Sting & Ricky Steamboat vs Rick Rude & Steve Austin--WCW Clash of the Champions XVIII 1/21/92 **** 0. Bam Bam Bigelow vs Typhoon--WWF Raw King of the Ring Qualifying Match 5/10/93 *1/2 0. Chris Candido vs Tim Horner--SMW 7/3/93 ** 0. Shane Douglas vs Ron Simmons--ECW World Title Match 12/17/94 ** 0. Robert Gibson vs Dirty White Boy--SMW TV Title Match 9/25/93 ** 0. The Giant vs Dave Sullivan--WCW Saturday Night 3/2/96 DUD 0. The Sandman vs Raven--ECW World Title Match 1/27/96 ** 0. The Eliminators vs Sabu & Rob Van Dam--ECW Cyberslam 1997 ECW Tag Team Title Tables and Ladders Match 2/22/97 ***1/4 0. Yokozuna vs Kamala--WWF Raw 5/17/93 *1/2 0. Bret Hart vs Diesel--WWF King of the Ring 1994 WWF Championship Match 6/19/94 **** 0. The Midnight Rockers vs The Original Midnight Express--AWA World Tag Team Title Match 12/27/87 **3/4 0. The Can-Am Express vs Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi--AJPW 5/25/92 ***** 0. The Great Muta vs Hiroshi Hase--NJPW Battle Final 1992 IWGP World Title Match 12/14/92 ***** 0. Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat--NWA Chi-Town Rumble 1989 NWA World Title Match 2/20/89 ***** 0. Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat--NWA Clash of the Champions VI NWA World Title Match 2/3 Falls 4/2/89 ***** 0. Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat--NWA Wrestle War 1989 NWA World Title Match 5/7/89 ***** 0. Ric Flair vs Terry Funk--NWA Clash of the Champions IX NWA World Title I Quit Match 11/15/89 ***** 0. Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant--WWF WrestleMania III WWF Championship Match 3/29/87 *** (historical significance is ***** though) 0. The Undertaker vs Triple H--WWE WrestleMania XXVIII End of an Era Hell in a Cell Match Special Referee: Shawn Michaels 4/1/12 ***** 0. Steve Austin vs Shawn Michaels--WWF WrestleMania XIV WWF Championship Match Special Enforcer: Mike Tyson 3/29/98 **** 0. Sting's Squadron vs The Dangerous Alliance--WCW Wrestle War 1992 War Games 5/17/92 ***** 0. Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon--WWF WrestleMania X Intercontinental Title Ladder Match 3/20/94 ***** 0. John Cena vs CM Punk--WWE Money in the Bank 2011 WWE Championship Match 7/17/11 ***** 0. Bret Hart vs Owen Hart--WWF Summer Slam 1994 WWF Championship Steel Cage Match 8/29/94 ***** 0. The Rock vs Steve Austin--WWF WrestleMania X-7 WWF Championship No DQ Match 4/1/01 ****3/4 0. John Cena vs Daniel Bryan--WWE Summer Slam 2013 WWE Championship Match Special Referee: Triple H 8/18/13 ***** 0. Dusty Rhodes & Nikita Koloff vs Tully Blanchard & Lex Luger--NWA Crockett Cup 1987 Finals 4/11/87 *** 0. The Midnight Express vs The Road Warriors--NWA World Tag Team Title Match 10/29/88 ** 0. The Crusher & Baron Von Raschke vs The Road Warriors--AWA World Tag Team Title Match 8/25/84 *1/2 0. Diesel vs Bret Hart--WWF Royal Rumble 1995 WWF Championship Match 1/22/95 ****1/4 0. John Cena vs Shinsuke Nakamura--WWE Smackdown # 1 Contender's Match 8/1/17 ***1/2 0. Diesel vs Bret Hart--WWF Survivor Series 1995 WWF Championship No DQ Match 11/19/95 ****1/2 0. Randy Savage vs Steve Austin--WCW Saturday Night US Title Tournament Match 5/27/95 ** 0. Bruno Sammartino vs Ivan Koloff--WWF MSG WWF Championship Steel Cage Match 12/15/75 **3/4 0. AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe vs Christopher Daniels--TNA Destination X 2006 X-Division Title Ultimate X Match 3/12/06 ***3/4 0. Shawn Michaels vs Diesel--WWF In Your House: Good Friends, Better Enemies WWF Championship No Holds Barred Match 4/28/96 ****1/2 0. Randy Savage vs The Ultimate Warrior--WWF Summer Slam 1992 WWF Championship Match 8/31/92 ****1/4 0. Kurt Angle vs Val Venis--WWF Smackdown European Title Match 2/8/00 ** 0. Kurt Angle vs Rikishi--WWF King of the Ring 2000 Finals 6/25/00 **1/2 0. Big Van Vader vs Stan Hansen--NJPW Super Fight in the Tokyo Dome IWGP Heavyweight Title Match 2/10/90 ***3/4 0. Kazunari Murakami & Naoya Ogawa vs Shinya Hashimoto & Takashi Iizuka--NJPW Wrestling World 2000 1/4/00 **** 0. Dynamite Kid vs Tiger Mask--NJPW Big Fight Series II 1983 4/21/83 **** 0. Bret Hart vs The British Bulldog--WWF Summer Slam 1992 Intercontinental Title Match 8/31/92 ***** 0. Hulk Hogan vs Earthquake--WWF Summer Slam 1990 8/27/90 **3/4 0. The Ultimate Warrior vs Rick Rude--WWF Summer Slam 1990 WWF Championship Steel Cage Match 8/27/90 ***1/4 0. Jim Duggan vs Terry Gordy--UWF World Title Match 5/30/86 *1/2 0. Kurt Angle vs Randy Orton--WWE One Night Stand 2006 ***1/2 0. Shawn Michaels vs Marty Jannetty--WWF Raw Intercontinental Title Match 5/17/93 ***3/4 0. The Steiners vs The Quebecers--WWF Raw WWF Tag Team Title Quebec Province Rules Match 9/13/93 *** 0. Bret Hart & British Bulldog vs Owen Hart & Jim Neidhart--WWF Raw 11/7/94 ***1/2 0. Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Psicosis--ECW TV 2/3 Fall Match 10/17/95 ****3/4 0. Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes--NWA Great American Bash 1986 NWA World Title Match 7/26/86 ***3/4 0. Steve Austin vs Bret Hart--WWF WrestleMania 13 Submission Match Special Referee: Ken Shamrock ***** 0. Jushin Liger vs Brian Pillman--WCW Super Brawl II WCW Light heavyweight Title Match 2/29/92 ****3/4 0. Midnight Express vs Rock 'n' Roll Express--WCW Wrestle War 1990 2/25/90 ****1/4 0. Bret & Owen Hart vs The Steiners--WWF House Show Florence, SC 1/11/94 ****3/4 0. Rick Rude vs The Ultimate Warrior--WWF Summer Slam 1989 Intercontinental Title Match 8/28/89 **** 0. Mitsuharu Misawa vs Stan Hansen--AJPW Triple Crown Match 8/22/92 ***3/4 0. Vader vs Sting--WCW Super Brawl III White Castle of Fear Strap Match 2/21/93 ****3/4 0. Hulk Hogan & Randy Savage vs Ric Flair & Vader--WCW Slamboree 1995 5/21/95 ***1/2 0. The Steiners vs Money Inc.--WWF Summer Slam Spectacular 1993 WWF Tag Team Title Steel Cage Match 8/22/93, taped 8/16/93 ****1/4 0. Mitsuharu Misawa & Toshiaki Kawada vs The Miracle Violence Comnection--AJPW Tag Team Title Match 7/24/91 ***1/2 0. Sabu vs The Sandman--ECW House Party 1998 Stairway to Hell Ladder Match 1/10/98 **3/4 0. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome--ECW Heat Wave 1998 8/1/98 ***3/4 0. Diesel vs Bam Bam Bigelow--WWF Raw WWF Championship Match 4/24/95 ***1/2 0. The British Bulldog vs Shawn Michaels--WWF One Night Only WWF European Title Match 9/20/97 **** 0. Brock Lesnar vs The Rock--SummerSlam 2002 WWE Undisputed Championship Match 8/25/02 **** 0. El Dandy vs Satanico--EMLL 2/3 Falls Hair vs Hair Match 12/14/90 ****3/4 0. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs AJ Styles & Matt Sydal--ROH 4th Anniversary Show ROH World Tag Team Title Match 2/25/06 ***1/2 0. Sabu vs Abyss--TNA Turning Point 2005 Barbed Wire Massacre Match 12/11/05 *** 0. The Midnight Express vs Brian Pillman & Tom Zenk--WCW Capital Combat 1990 US Tag Team Title Match 5/19/90 ****1/4 0. Raven vs The Sandman--ECW World Title Barbed Wire Match 12/7/96 ***3/4 0. Mike Awesome vs Masato Tanaka--ECW November to Remember ECW World Title Match 11/7/99 **** 0. Atsushi Onita vs. Terry Funk--FMW Barbed Wire Exploding Ring Death Match 5/5/93 **** 0. Ric Flair vs Kerry Von Erich--WCCW Christmas Wrestling Star Wars NWA World Title Match 12/25/82 **** 0. Kurt Angle vs Samoa Joe--TNA Genesis 2006 11/19/06 ****1/4 0. Combat Toyoda vs Megumi Kudo--FMW 7th Anniversary Show Barbed Wire Exploding Death Match 5/5/96 **** 0. Ted DiBiase vs Jim Duggan--Mid-South No DQ, Loser Leaves Town, Coal Miner's Glove on a Pole, Tuxedo, Cage Match 3/22/85 **** 0. Lord Steven Regal vs Arn Anderson--WCW Saturday Night World TV Title Match 12/7/96 **1/2 0. Doom vs The Steiners--WCW Capital Combat 1990 NWA World Tag Team Title Match 5/19/90 ***3/4 0. Ric Flair vs Lex Luger--WCW Capital Combat 1990 NWA World Title Steel Cage Match **** 0. Stan Hansen & Genichiro Tenryu vs Jumbo Tsuruta & Yoshiaki Yatsu--AJPW Real World Tag League Finals 12/6/89 ****3/4 0. Atlantis vs Ultimo Guerrero--CMLL 81 Anniversary Show 2/3 Falls Mask vs Mask Match 9/19/14 **** 0. Barry Windham vs Lex Luger--WCW Great American Bash 1991 WCW World Title Steel Cage Match 7/14/91 *** 0. Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Greg Valentine--NWA Starrcade 1983 Dog Collar Match 11/24/83 **** 0. Ric Flair vs Rick Rude--WCW Fall Brawl 1993 WCW International World Title Match 9/19/93 **3/4 0. Negro Casas vs El Hijo del Santo--CMLL Mask vs Hair Match 9/17/97 **** 0. Seth Rollins vs Rob Van Dam vs Jack Swagger vs Dolph Ziggler vs Kofi Kingston vs Dean Ambrose--WWE Money in the Bank 2014 Money in the Bank Ladder Match 6/29/14 ****1/2 0. Shawn Michaels & Steve Austin vs Owen Hart & British Bulldog--WWF Raw WWF World Tag Team Title Match 5/26/97 ****1/4 0. Steve Austin vs Triple H vs The Undertaker--WWF No Mercy UK 1999 WWF Championship No Holds Barred Triple Threat Match 5/16/99 ***1/4 0. Authors of Pain vs Sanity--NXT Takeover: Brooklyn 3 NXT Tag Team Title Match 8/19/17 ***3/4 0. Bobby Roode vs Drew McIntyre--NXT Takeover: Brooklyn 3 NXT Title Match 8/19/17 ***1/2 0. Vader, Sid Vicious, & Harlem Heat vs Sting, Davey Boy Smith, Dustin Rhodes, & Shockmaster--WCW Fall Brawl 1993 War Games 9/19/93 **1/2 0. Honky Tonk Man & Hart Foundation vs Randy Savage & Strike Force--WWF House Show Boston Steel Cage Match 3/5/88 *** 0. Samoa Joe vs AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels--TNA Unbreakable 2005 X-Division Title Triple Threat Match 9/11/05 ***** 0. Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg--WWE WrestleMania 33 WWE Universal Title Match 4/2/17 ***1/2 0. The Steiners vs The Hell Raisers--NJPW Tokyo Dome 1/4/93 ***1/2 0. John Cena vs Baron Corbin--WWE Summer Slam 2017 8/20/17 ** 0. New Day vs The Usos--WWE SummerSlam 2017 Smackdown Tag Team Title Match 8/20/17 *** 0. Natalya vs Naomi--WWE SummerSlam 2017 Smackdown Women's Title Match 8/20/27 **1/2 0. Big Show vs Big Cass--WWE SummerSlam 2017 8/20/17 DUD 0. Randy Orton vs Rusev-- WWE SummerSlam 2017 8/20/17 DUD 0. Sasha Banks vs Alexa Bliss--WWE SummerSlam 2017 Raw Women's Title Match 8/20/17 **1/2 0. Finn Balor vs Bray Wyatt--WWE SummerSlam *** 0. Seth Rollins & Dean Ambrose vs Sheamus & Cesaro--WWE SummerSlam 2017 Raw Tag Team Title Match 8/20/17 **** 0. AJ Styles vs Kevin Owens--WWE SummerSlam 2017 US Title Match Special Referee: Shane McMahon 8/20/17 ***1/4 0. Shinsuke Nakamura vs Jinder Mahal--WWE SummerSlam 2017 WWE Championship Match 8/20/17 **1/2 0. Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns vs Braun Strowman vs Samoa Joe--WWE SummerSlam 2017 Universal Championship Fatal 4 Way Match 8/20/17 ****1/2 0. Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue--AJPW World Tag Team Title Match 6/9/95 ***** 0. Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat--WWF WrestleMania III Intercontinental Title Match 3/29/87 ***** 0. Andre the Giant vs Stan Hansen--NJPW 9/23/81 ****1/4 0. MS-1 vs Sangre Chicana--EMLL 9/23/83 ****3/4 0. Genichiro Tenryu vs Keiji Muto--AJPW Triple Crown Match 6/8/01 **** 0. Hulk Hogan & The Great Muta vs The Hell Raisers--NJPW 9/23/93 ***3/4 0. Bryan Danielson vs Takeshi Morishima--ROH Manhattan Mayhem II ROH World Title Match 8/25/07 ***** 0. Stan Hansen & Terry Gordy vs Genichiro Tenryu & Toshiaki Kawada--AJPW RWTL Finals 12/16/88 ***** 0. Hulk Hogan & Brutus Beefcake vs Randy Savage & Zeus--WWF SummerSlam 1989 8/28/89 *** 0. Mike Awesome vs Masato Tanaka--ECW on TNN ECW World Title Match 12/24/99 ***3/4 0. Mitsuharu Misawa, Toshiaki Kawada, & Kenta Kobashi vs Jumbo Tsuruta, Akita Taue, & Masa Fuchi--AJPW 10/19/90 ****3/4 0. Midnight Express vs The Fantastics--NWA Clash of the Champions 1 US Tag Team Title Match 3/27/88 ****1/2 0. Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker--WWF Bad Blood: In Your House Hell in a Cell Match 10/5/97 ***** 0. Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio Jr.--WCW Halloween Havoc 1997 Cruiserweight Title Match Title vs Mask 10/26/97 ***** 0. John Cena vs Umaga--WWE Royal Rumble 2007 WWE Championship Last Man Standing Match 1/28/07 ***** 0. Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho--WWE WrestleMania XIX 3/30/03 ****1/2 0. Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage--WWF The Main Event WWF Championship Match Special Referee: James "Buster" Douglas 2/23/90 ***1/2 0. Sting vs Big Van Vader--WCW Great American Bash 1992 WCW World Title Match 7/12/92 ***** 0. Sting, Brian Pillman, & The Steiners vs Ric Flair, Barry Windham, Larry Zbyszko, & Sid Vicious--WCW Wrestle War 1991 War Games 2/24/91 ***** 0. Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs Steve Williams & Johnny Ace--AJPW RWTL Finals 1994 12/10/94 **** 0. Brock Lesnar vs John Cena--WWE SummerSlam 2014 WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match 8/17/14 **** 0. Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon--WWF SummerSlam 1995 Intercontinental Title Ladder Match 8/27/95 ****3/4 0. Brock Lesnar vs The Undertaker--WWE No Mercy 2002 WWE Championship Hell in a Cell Match 10/20/02 ****3/4 0. Jack Brisco vs Giant Baba--AJPW NWA World Title 2/3 Falls Match 12/2/74 ***1/2 0. Shawn Michaels vs Kurt Angle--WWE WrestleMania 21 4/3/05 ***** 0. Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho--WWE No Mercy 2008 World Heavyweight Title Ladder Match 10/5/08 ****3/4 0. Akira Hokuto vs Shinobu Kandori--AJW Dream Slam 4/2/93 ****1/2 0. Tully Blanchard vs Magnum T.A.--NWA Starrcade 1985 US Title I Quit Steel Cage Match 11/28/85 ***** 0. Ric Flair vs Tatsumi Fujinami--WCW Super Brawl WCW World Title Match 5/19/91 *** 0. Strike Force Team vs Hart Foundation Team--WWF Survivor Series 1987 11/26/87 **** 0. Mitsuharu Misawa vs Toshiaki Kawada--AJPW Triple Crown Title Match 6/3/94 ***** 0. Demolition Team vs Powers of Pain Team--WWF Survivor Series 1988 11/24/88 ****1/2 0. Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage--WWF WrestleMania V WWF Championship Match 4/2/89 **** 0. Takashi Iizuka & Yuji Nagata vs Toshiaki Kawada & Masa Fuchi--NJPW 2nd Judgment 12/14/00 ****3/4 0. Hulk Hogan vs Ric Flair--WCW Bash at the Beach 1994 WCW World Title Match 7/17/94 **** 0. Hulk Hogan vs Big Boss Man--WWF Saturday Night's Main Event WWF Championship Steel Cage Match 5/27/89 ***3/4 0. Kenta Kobashi vs Mitsuharu Misawa--AJPW Triple Crown Title Match 1/20/97 ***** 
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2018.03.03 18:28 xberry [For Sale] Mostly Jazz, some classic rock. LOTS to pick from.

Just added a bunch of LPs to my sell list. Unlimited $5 shipping in the US - Media Mail w/tracking from Illinois. These are 10% off Discogs if purchased through Reddit. Payment via PayPal. Ask for pix!
ARTIST TITLE PRICE VINYL JACKET
Adam Wade (2) And Then Came Adam $1.79 VG VG+
Ahmad Jamal The Roar Of The Greasepaint - The Smell Of The Crowd $8.09 M- VG+
Ahmad Jamal Heat Wave $4.49 VG+ VG
Ahmad Jamal Portfolio Of Ahmad Jamal $3.59 G+ G
Ahmad Jamal All Of You $3.14 G+ VG
Ahmad Jamal The Piano Scene Of Ahmad Jamal $2.69 G+ G+
Ahmad Jamal Trio Jamal At The Pershing Vol. 2 $3.59 VG+ Generic
Ahmad Jamal Trio Ahmad Jamal At The Pershing $0.23 Poor (P) G+
Al Hibbler Al Hibbler Remembers $2.24 G+ VG+
Al Hibbler Starring Al Hibbler $1.79 G G
Al Hirt Honey In The Horn $2.69 VG+ M-
Al Jolson In Songs He Made Famous $2.69 VG VG
Alan Swain Orchestra Encore Jazz Dance Session $6.29 VG+ VG
Albert Lee Speechless $3.59 VG+ VG
André Kostelanetz And His Orchestra The Music Of Chopin $4.49 VG+ VG
André Kostelanetz And His Orchestra Bolero / William Tell - Overture $2.69 VG VG
Andrés Segovia My Favorite Spanish Encores $3.59 VG+ G+
Andy Narell Slow Motion $4.49 M- VG+
Andy Summers & Robert Fripp I Advance Masked $3.59 VG+ VG
Antonio Vivaldi - Kammerorchester Des Saarländischen Rundfunks, Saarbrücken Conducted By Karl Ristenpart 5 Concerti For Diverse Instruments $SOLD M- M-
Arnie Lawrence You're Gonna Hear From Me $4.49 VG VG+
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers Drum Suite $SOLD G+ VG
Art Tatum Works Of Art $5.39 VG+ VG+
Art Van Damme Septet: The New Sound Of Art Van Damme $5.39 VG+ VG+
Arthur Fiedler • The Boston Pops Orchestra Fabulous Broadway $2.69 VG+ VG+
Arthur Fiedler And The Boston Pops Orchestra Pops Varieties $8.99 M- VG+
Arthur Lyman Yellow Bird $0.89 G+ VG+
Arthur Prysock Art & Soul $8.99 M- VG+
Arthur Prysock Unforgettable $2.24 VG+ VG+
Artie Shaw And His Orchestra Moonglow $1.79 VG+ VG
B.B. King Completely Well $7.19 G+ VG
B.B. King Friends $3.59 G+ VG
B.J. Thomas Young And In Love $5.39 M- M-
Banda Taurina ¡Bullring! Music Of The Bull Fight Ring, La Fiesta Brava, Vol. 4 $1.79 VG+ VG
Bar-Kays Flying High On Your Love $2.69 G+ G+
Barry Galbraith Guitar Comping $6.29 M- M-
Benny Goodman Trios (& One Duet) $4.94 M- M-
Benny Goodman Meeting At The Summit $4.49 VG VG
Benny Hipsley Presenting Benny Hipsley At The Desert Hotel Live $4.49 VG+ VG
Bernard Peiffer The Pied Bernard Peiffer Of The Piano $8.99 VG+ VG+
Bert Henry Bert Henry At The Hungry Thigh $1.79 G+ VG+
Bill Laswell Baselines $7.19 M- VG+
Bill Reinhardt Where Were You Last Night? "At Jazz Ltd. Of Course" $5.39 VG VG+
Billy Eckstine The Modern Sound Of Mr. B. $2.24 VG VG+
Billy Preston Everybody Likes Some Kind Of Music $2.69 VG VG+
Billy Vaughn Number 1 Hits, Vol. 1 $5.39 VG+ VG+
Billy Vaughn Theme From Love Story $0.23 VG VG+
Blood, Sweat And Tears Child Is Father To The Man $1.79 VG VG
Bob Dylan Shot Of Love $7.19 VG+ VG+
Bob Dylan / The Band Before The Flood $22.49 VG+ VG+
Bob Fleming Sax Spectacular Vol. 2 $44.99 VG VG
Bob James Three $3.59 VG G+
Bob Newhart The Button-Down Mind Of Bob Newhart $0.44 VG G+
Bobby Hackett Soft Lights And Bobby Hackett $3.59 G+ VG+
Bobby Hutcherson Linger Lane $5.39 VG G
Bobby McFerrin The Voice $1.79 VG+ VG+
Bobby Short Bobby Short Loves Cole Porter $2.69 VG+ VG+
Boots Randolph Hip Boots $3.59 VG+ VG+
Brother Jack McDuff Hot Barbeque $16.19 VG VG+
Brother Jack McDuff Live! $8.99 VG VG+
Brother Jack McDuff Goodnight, It's Time To Go $3.59 G+ VG
Brother Jack McDuff Screamin' $SOLD G+ VG+
Brother Jack McDuff Live! $3.59 G+ VG+
Brother Jack McDuff Live! $2.69 G VG
Brothers Johnson Blam!! $2.69 VG+ VG+
Bruce Forman In Transit $8.09 M- M-
Bruce Forman In Transit $4.49 VG+ VG+
Buck Clayton The Huckle-Buck And Robbins' Nest (A Buck Clayton Jam Session) $3.14 G+ G+
Bud Freeman's All Star Orchestra Midnight At Eddie Condon's $3.59 VG VG+
Bud Powell Swingin' With Bud $SOLD VG VG
Bud Powell The Jazz Legacy Of Bud Powell $4.49 VG+ VG+
Bud Shank I Hear Music $2.69 VG+ VG
Bud Shank Plays The Music And Arrangements Of Michel LeGrand Windmills Of Your Mind $3.59 VG+ VG+
Buddy Miles We Got To Live Together $3.14 VG VG
Buddy Morrow And His Orchestra A Salute To The Fabulous Dorseys $3.14 VG+ VG+
Buddy Spicher Me And My Heroes $1.79 G+ VG+
Bunny Berigan His Trumpet & His Orchestra Volume 1 $2.69 M- VG+
Bunny Berigan & His Orchestra The Complete Bunny Berigan, Volume I - 1937 $4.94 M- VG+
Bunny Berigan & His Orchestra The Greatest White Trumpeter Of All Time $3.14 M- M-
Bunny Berigan & His Orchestra 1936-8 $3.14 VG+ VG+
Cal Tjader Tjader $13.49 VG+ VG
Cal Tjader Warm Wave $3.59 VG+ G+
Cannonball Adderley The Best Of Cannonball Adderley $4.04 VG+ VG
Cannonball Adderley And Bossa Rio With Sérgio Mendes Cannonball Adderley And The Bossa Rio Sextet With Sergio Mendes $3.59 G+ VG
Cannonball Adderley Sextet Nippon Soul $13.49 VG VG+
Carlos Santana & Buddy Miles Carlos Santana & Buddy Miles! Live! $3.59 VG VG
Carmen McRae With Mat Matthews Quintet By Special Request $8.99 VG VG
Caterina Valente / Werner Müller Und Sein Orchester Caterina Valente's Greatest Hits $1.79 M- M-
Charlie Barnet Town Hall Jazz Concert $3.59 VG+ VG+
Charlie Christian Solo Flight - The Genius Of Charlie Christian $SOLD M- G
Charlie Musselwhite Leave The Blues To Us $6.29 VG G
Charlie Parker "Bird" Is Free $5.39 VG+ VG
Charlie Parker - Miles Davis Giants Of Jazz $4.04 VG+ VG
Cheryl Kennedy, Dickie Henderson Mary Poppins $0.89 M- VG+
Chick Corea My Spanish Heart $SOLD M- VG+
Chuck Mangione Children Of Sanchez $3.59 VG+ VG+
Chuck Mangione Feels So Good $SOLD VG VG
Clancy Hayes With Yank Lawson And His Yankee Clippers Happy Melodies $6.29 VG+ VG
Clay Tyson Up Tight $22.49 VG+ VG+
Clifford Brown And Max Roach At Basin Street $4.49 VG+ VG+
Count Basie More Hits Of The '50's And '60's $2.69 VG+ VG+
Count Basie and Billy Eckstine Basie/Eckstine, Inc. $2.24 VG VG
Count Basie Orchestra Basie, One More Time $11.69 VG+ VG+
Count Basie Orchestra One O'Clock Jump $8.99 M M-
Count Basie Orchestra Hollywood...Basie's Way $8.99 M- M-
Count Basie Orchestra April In Paris $5.39 G+ VG
Courtney Pine Journey To The Urge Within $3.14 VG+ VG+
Creedence Clearwater Revival Creedence Clearwater Revival $8.09 VG VG
Dakota Staton Madame Foo-Foo $1.79 VG VG+
Daniel Humair - Jean-Luc Ponty - Phil Woods - Eddy Louiss La Sorcellerie A Travers Les Ages / Gravenstein $22.49 VG+ VG
Danny Toan First Serve $2.69 VG+ G+
Dave Brubeck Brubeck Plays Brubeck $8.09 VG+ VG+
Dave Brubeck Dave Brubeck's Greatest Hits $4.49 VG+ VG+
Dave Brubeck And J.J. Johnson & Kai Winding At Newport $0.89 F VG
Dave Grusin Mountain Dance $7.19 M- M-
Dave Pell's Big Band Duke Ellington's Big Band Sounds, Played By Dave Pell's Big Band $5.39 VG+ VG
David Rose Enchanted Strings $5.39 VG+ VG+
David Sancious David Sancious $12.59 VG+ VG
David Sancious Just As I Thought $3.14 VG+ VG+
Dean Elliott College Confidential $6.29 VG+ VG+
Deep Purple Shades Of Deep Purple $7.19 VG VG
Deep Purple Made In Japan $6.29 VG+ VG+
Delaney & Bonnie & Friends With Eric Clapton On Tour $8.09 M- VG+
Dennis Farnon And His Orchestra Caution! Men Swinging $3.59 VG VG+
Denny Freeman Blues Cruise $4.49 M- VG+
Diana Ross And The Supremes Greatest Hits $SOLD VG VG
Diana Ross And The Supremes & The Temptations Diana Ross & The Supremes Join The Temptations $SOLD VG VG
Dick Hyman Cincinnati Fats $4.49 VG+ VG+
Diego Sacromonte Fiesta Flamenca! $8.99 VG+ VG+
Dinah Washington This Is My Story $SOLD VG VG
Don Drummond In Memory Of Don Drummond $26.99 VG VG+
Don Goldie Trumpet Caliente $6.29 VG+ VG
Don Nix Hobos, Heroes And Street Corner Clowns $2.69 VG VG+
Don Patterson With Sonny Stitt And Billy James The Boss Men $3.59 G+ G+
Don Pullen Tomorrow's Promises $4.49 VG+ VG
Don Reno Fastest Five Strings Alive $2.69 VG VG+
Don Shirley The Don Shirley Point Of View $1.79 G+ VG
Doris Day Lights! Camera! Action! $4.49 VG VG
Drifting Cowboys We Remember Hank Williams $29.25 VG+ VG+
Duke Ellington Duke Ellington's My People $4.49 VG VG+
Duke Ellington Duke Ellington's Sophisticated Ladies $3.59 VG+ VG+
Duke Ellington Duke Ellington's 70th Birthday Concert $3.59 VG+ VG+
Duke Ellington And His Orchestra Ellington At Newport $SOLD VG+ VG
Duke Ellington And His Orchestra The Great Paris Concert $7.19 VG+ VG+
Duke Ellington And His Orchestra Duke's Mixture $5.39 G+ G+
Duke Ellington And His Orchestra Plays Ellington $4.49 VG VG+
Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong The Duke Ellington-Louis Armstrong Years $5.39 VG VG
Duke Pearson How Insensitive $22.49 VG+ VG+
Duke Robillard And The Pleasure Kings Too Hot To Handle $4.49 VG+ VG+
Eagles Desperado $5.39 VG VG
Earl Bostic Dance Time $SOLD G+ VG
Earl Bostic The Earl Of Bostic $SOLD VG VG+
Earl Bostic Harlem Nocturne $SOLD G+ VG
Earl Grant Yes Sirree! $3.59 M- VG+
Earl Grant Earl Grant's Greatest Hits $2.69 VG+ VG+
Earl Grant Earl Grant At Basin Street East $1.79 VG VG+
Earl Hines And His Quartet "Fatha" Blows Best $3.59 VG+ VG
Earl Hines And Maxine Sullivan Live At The Overseas Press Club $1.34 VG+ VG+
Ed Conley Piano Dynamics $3.59 VG VG+
Eddie Adcock Guitar Echoes $1.79 VG VG
Eddie Brigati Lost In The Wilderness $4.49 VG+ M-
Eddie Condon Dixieland Dance Party $1.79 VG G+
Eddie Harris & Les McCann Second Movement $2.69 G+ VG
Eddie Heywood Canadian Sunset $3.59 VG+ M-
Eddie Heywood / Joe Bushkin At Twilight $2.69 VG VG
Eddy Howard And His Orchestra Sleepy Serenade $0.44 G+ VG
Edith Piaf Potpourri Par Piaf - Her Most Recent Continental Successes Sung In French $1.79 VG VG
Edvard Grieg : Philippe Entremont, The Philadelphia Orchestra, Eugene Ormandy / Modest Mussorgsky : Philippe Entremont Concerto For Piano And Orchestra In A Minor, Op. 16 / Pictures At An Exhibition $3.59 VG+ VG+
Edward R. Murrow And Fred W. Friendly "I Can Hear It Now..."—Vol. I $0.89 VG+ VG+
Ella Fitzgerald Ella Fitzgerald $3.59 VG G+
Elton John Goodbye Yellow Brick Road $6.29 VG VG+
Elton John Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player $3.14 VG+ VG+
Elton John Greatest Hits Volume II $2.69 VG+ M-
Emerson, Lake & Palmer Tarkus $4.49 VG+ VG+
Eric Clapton Behind The Sun $5.39 M- VG+
Eric Clapton Money And Cigarettes $5.39 VG+ VG+
Eric Clapton August $3.59 M- VG+
Eric Clapton August $3.14 M- VG+
Eric Clapton Another Ticket $3.14 VG+ VG+
Eric Dolphy Other Aspects $SOLD VG+ VG+
Eric Kloss / Barry Miles Together $5.39 VG+ VG+
Erroll Garner Play It Again, Erroll! $5.39 M- VG+
Erroll Garner Best Of Garner $2.69 VG VG+
Erroll Garner Concert By The Sea $2.69 VG+ VG+
Erroll Garner Serenade To "Laura" $1.79 G G
Erroll Garner Erroll Garner $0.89 G+ VG
Erroll Garner and Art Tatum / Mike Di Napoli Piano Greats $0.44 G+ VG
Etta James The Best Of Etta James $SOLD VG+ VG+
Etta Jones Don't Go To Strangers $8.09 VG+ VG
Etta Jones Don't Go To Strangers $6.29 G+ G+
Etta Jones Don't Go To Strangers $4.49 G+ VG+
Eubie Blake The Eighty-Six Years Of Eubie Blake $SOLD VG+ VG+
Eureka Brass Band Jazz At Preservation Hall I $8.99 VG+ VG+
Eureka Brass Band Jazz At Preservation Hall I $6.29 M- VG+
Everly Brothers EB 84 $11.69 M- VG+
Ferrante & Teicher Star Wars $3.59 VG+ VG
Fibber McGee & Molly Fibber McGee & Molly $0.44 M- G+
Flatt & Scruggs Flatt & Scruggs - 20 All-Time Great Recordings In A Deluxe 2-Record Set $SOLD VG VG
Fleetwood Mac Penguin $1.34 G+ G+
Foghat Foghat $2.69 VG VG
Foreigner Double Vision $2.69 VG VG+
Frank "88" Malone Hail, Hail The Gangs All Here! $0.23 VG VG
Frank Sinatra Trilogy: Past, Present & Future $SOLD VG+ VG+
Frank Sinatra Come Back To Sorrento $2.69 VG+ VG
Frank Zappa True Glove $7.19 VG+ VG+
Frank Zappa Studio Tan $6.28 VG VG
Frankie Carle Caressin' The Keys $13.49 VG VG+
Frankie Laine I'll Take Care Of Your Cares $1.79 M- M-
Fred Astaire, Petula Clark Finian's Rainbow (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) $1.79 VG+ VG+
Freddie Hubbard First Light $6.29 G+ M-
Freddie Hubbard Sky Dive $4.49 VG VG
Garland Jeffreys Escape Artist $1.79 VG+ VG+
Gary Burton Quartet Gary Burton Quartet In Concert $1.79 G+ VG+
Gary McFarland Soft Samba $4.49 VG+ VG
Gene Ammons Free Again $7.19 VG+ VG
Gene Ammons Live! In Chicago $5.39 VG+ VG+
Gene Ammons Makes It Happen $4.49 VG+ VG+
Gene Ammons Boss Soul! $4.04 G+ VG+
Gene Ammons' All Stars The Happy Blues $7.19 G+ G+
Gene Bertoncini Evolution! $4.49 VG+ VG+
Gene Norman Presents Charlie Ventura Featuring The Charlie Ventura Septet, Jackie & Roy Gene Norman Presents A Charlie Ventura Concert $3.14 VG G
George Barnes Guitar Galaxie $3.59 VG+ VG+
George Barnes And His Octet The Uncollected George Barnes And His Octet 1946 $8.09 VG+ VG+
George Benson Breezin' $4.49 VG+ VG+
George Benson Blue Benson $SOLD VG+ VG
George Benson Breezin' $SOLD VG+ VG+
George Benson Breezin' $1.34 VG VG+
George Feyer Echoes Of Paris $1.79 G+ VG+
George Gershwin, Fritz Reiner, The Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra Porgy And Bess. A Symphonic Picture $9.89 VG VG+
George McCrae & Gwen McCrae Together $8.09 M VG+
Georges Bizet, The London Philharmonic Orchestra L'Arlesienne Suite $8.99 VG G+
Geri Allen Twylight $6.29 VG+ VG+
Gerry Mulligan Paris Concert $3.59 VG+ VG+
Gerry Mulligan Meets Ben Webster Gerry Mulligan Meets Ben Webster $22.49 VG+ VG+
Gerry Mulligan Quartet With Lee Konitz, The Chet Baker Quintet Mulligan And Baker! $11.69 VG+ VG
Gino Vannelli The Gist Of The Gemini $0.89 VG VG+
Glen Campbell By The Time I Get To Phoenix $SOLD VG+ VG+
Glenn Miller And His Orchestra The Authentic Sound Of Glenn Miller - Yesterday $SOLD VG+ VG+
Goldie Hawkins, Wayne Sanders Goldie's Two Pianos $4.49 G+ G+
Grady Martin And The Slew Foot Five Hot Time Tonight $3.14 G+ VG
Grady Tate Feeling Life $2.69 VG VG+
Graham Jackson (3) In Concert At Pittypat's Porch In Atlanta, Georgia $13.49 VG+ VG
Grand Funk Railroad Closer To Home $5.84 VG+ VG+
Grand Funk Railroad On Time $4.04 VG VG
Gregory Isaacs Mr. Isaaccs $12.59 VG+ VG+
Grover Washington, Jr. Mister Magic $4.49 VG+ VG
Grover Washington, Jr. Mister Magic $3.59 VG VG
Grover Washington, Jr. Mister Magic $0.44 G F
Guy Marks Loving You Has Made Me Bananas $0.23 VG+ VG+
Guy Van Duser Got The World On A String $3.59 M M
Hank Crawford Double Cross $1.79 G G+
Hank Crawford From The Heart $0.44 G VG
Hank Crawford From The Heart $0.44 G VG
Hank Garland Velvet Guitar $11.69 VG+ M-
Hank Williams Jr. Live At Cobo Hall Detroit $2.24 VG+ VG+
Harry James And His Orchestra Mr. Trumpet (Harry James Salutes The Great Trumpet Men Of Our Times) $3.59 VG+ VG+
Harry James And His Orchestra All-Time Favorites By Harry James $0.89 G G+
Harry Reser & His Orchestra Vamp! (Dance The Charleston Of The Roaring Twenties) $7.19 VG+ VG
Harvie Swartz Urban Earth $5.39 VG+ VG+
Heads Hands & Feet Tracks $7.19 VG+ VG
Heads Hands & Feet Old Soldiers Never Die $5.39 VG+ VG
Hector Delfosse Left Bank of Paris $3.14 G+ VG
Henry Butler Fivin' Around $6.29 M- VG+
Henry Mancini Breakfast At Tiffany's (Music From The Motion Picture Score) $4.49 VG+ VG+
Herb Ellis In Session With Herb Ellis $4.04 VG+ VG
Herbie Mann Memphis Two-Step $7.19 M- VG+
Herbie Mann Herbie Mann At The Village Gate $4.94 M- VG+
Herbie Mann Push Push $3.59 G+ VG+
Herbie Mann New Mann At Newport $3.59 VG+ VG+
Herbie Mann Standing Ovation At Newport $3.59 VG+ VG+
Herbie Mann Hold On, I'm Comin' $2.69 VG+ VG
Herbie Mann Do The Bossa Nova $2.24 G+ VG
Herbie Mann Glory Of Love $1.79 VG VG
Herbie Mann Live At The Whisky A Go Go $1.34 G+ G+
Herbie Mann Windows Opened $0.89 G+ VG+
Herbie Mann Right Now $0.89 G+ VG+
Hot Lips Page After Hours In Harlem $4.49 VG VG
Houston Person Sweet Buns & Barbeque $3.59 G+ Generic
Hugo Montenegro Love Theme From The Godfather $5.39 VG+ VG+
Hugo Montenegro Montenegro In Italy $2.69 VG+ M-
Idris Muhammad Black Rhythm Revolution! $22.49 G+ G+
Illinois Jacquet Banned In Boston $3.59 VG+ M-
Irene Reid The World Needs What I Need $4.49 VG+ VG+
Irving Wolfe, Beatrice Krone, Margaret Fullerton The Development Of Jazz $8.99 VG VG
Jack Benny And Frank Knight Remember The Golden Days Of Radio Volume 2 $0.89 VG+ VG+
Jack Ellison A Parker Record $8.99 VG+ VG+
Jack Teagarden The Golden Horn Of Jack Teagarden $4.49 VG+ VG+
Jackie Davis Easy Does It $5.39 VG VG
Jackie Gleason Music For Lovers Only $3.58 VG+ VG+
Jackie McLean Tippin' The Scales $7.19 VG VG
James Blood Ulmer Black Rock $13.49 M- VG+
Jay Azzolina Never Too Late $1.79 M- VG+
Jazz At The Philharmonic Norman Granz' Jazz At The Philharmonic Vol.3 $31.49 VG+ G+
Jean-Luc Ponty Sunday Walk $8.09 VG+ VG+
Jean-Luc Ponty Civilized Evil $3.59 VG+ VG+
Jean-Luc Ponty Upon The Wings Of Music $3.14 M- VG+
Jeff Beck Blow By Blow $1.79 VG VG
Jeff Berlin & Vox Humana (4) Champion $2.69 VG+ VG
Jerry Reed Sweet Love Feelings $5.39 M M
Jesse Crawford In A Monastery Garden $8.99 VG G+
Jester Hairston A Profile of Negro Life in Song $3.59 VG G+
Jim Beebe's Chicago Jazz Jim Beebe's Chicago Jazz Saturday Night Function $4.49 VG+ VG+
Jim Collier (3) Trumpet Pickin' $8.99 M M
Jimmie Lunceford And His Orchestra 1940 $3.59 VG VG
Jimmie Lunceford And His Orchestra 1940 $1.79 VG+ VG+
Jimmy McGriff A Bag Full Of Soul $SOLD VG+ VG
Jimmy McGriff A Thing To Come By $5.38 VG VG
Jimmy McGriff Let's Stay Together $4.94 G+ VG+
Jimmy McGriff Let's Stay Together $4.49 G+ VG
Jimmy McGriff Blues For Mister Jimmy $3.59 G+ VG
Jimmy McGriff A Thing To Come By $3.59 G+ VG+
Jimmy McGriff Countdown $3.59 VG+ M-
Jimmy McGriff & Richard "Groove" Holmes Giants Of The Organ Come Together $3.59 VG VG+
Jimmy McGriff Organ And Blues Band Step 1 $3.59 G+ VG
Jimmy McGriff Organ And Blues Band Honey $3.59 VG VG+
Jimmy McPartland and Jimmy McPartland's Hot Jazz Stars / Dizzy Gillespie and Dizzy Gillespie's Cool Jazz Stars Hot Vs. Cool (A Battle Of Jazz) $5.39 VG VG
Jimmy Ponder Down Here On The Ground $1.79 G G+
Jimmy Scott Little Jimmy Scott $7.19 VG+ VG+
Jimmy Smith Sit On It! $7.19 VG+ G+
Jimmy Smith 24 Karat Hits $5.39 M- VG+
Jimmy Smith Got My Mojo Workin' $5.39 VG VG+
Jimmy Smith Bashin' - The Unpredictable Jimmy Smith $5.39 VG+ VG+
Jimmy Smith Bashin' - The Unpredictable Jimmy Smith $4.49 VG VG+
Jimmy Smith Peter & The Wolf $4.49 VG VG
Jimmy Smith Any Number Can Win $4.49 VG+ VG+
Jimmy Smith Respect $4.04 VG+ G+
Jimmy Smith Respect $3.59 VG VG
Jimmy Smith Monster $3.59 VG VG
Jimmy Smith Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf? $3.14 VG VG+
Jimmy Smith Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf? $1.79 G+ VG
Jimmy Smith Featuring Kenny Burrell And Grady Tate Organ Grinder Swing $2.69 VG VG+
Jimmy Smith Featuring Kenny Burrell And Grady Tate Organ Grinder Swing $0.89 G G+
Jimmy Smith Trio Live At The Village Gate $3.14 VG VG+
Jimmy Smith Trio Jimmy Smith Plays The Standards $1.34 G G+
Jimmy Witherspoon & Gerry Mulligan Jimmy Witherspoon & Gerry Mulligan $5.39 VG+ VG+
Jimmy Witherspoon, Gerry Mulligan, Ben Webster With Mel Lewis, Leroy Vinnegar, Jimmy Rowles At The Renaissance $13.49 VG G
Joe Pass A Sign Of The Times $0.89 G G+
Joe Venuti's Blue Four The Joe Venuti Blue Four $4.49 VG+ M-
Joe Walsh You Bought It - You Name It $4.49 VG+ VG+
Joe Walsh "But Seriously, Folks..." $4.49 VG+ VG+
Joe Walsh The Confessor $3.59 VG+ VG+
Joe Walsh There Goes The Neighborhood $3.59 VG+ VG
John Fogerty Centerfield $1.79 VG M-
John Handy Hard Work $0.44 F VG+
John McLaughlin Music Spoken Here $3.14 VG+ VG+
John Williams (7), Rafael Puyana Music For Guitar And Harpsichord By Straube, Ponce, And Dodgson $6.29 VG+ VG
John Wood (12) / Tony Dumas Inner Merge $4.49 VG+ G+
Johnny Eaton And His Princetonians College Jazz: Modern $6.29 VG+ VG
Johnny Hodges A Tribute To Johnny Hodges $8.99 VG+ VG
Johnny Mathis Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head $0.89 VG VG+
Johnny Smith Reminiscing $8.09 VG+ VG
Johnny Smith Moods $6.29 G+ VG
Johnny Smith And Stan Getz Moonlight In Vermont $6.29 VG+ VG+
Johnny Smith Quintet Jazz At NBC $4.49 G+ G
Johnny Smith Quintet Featuring Stan Getz Moonlight In Vermont $13.49 VG+ VG+
Johnny Smith Trio Designed For You $3.14 VG VG+
Jonah Jones Muted Jazz $1.79 VG VG
Jonah Jones Muted Jazz $0.23 G G
Jonathan Butler Introducing Jonathan Butler $1.79 VG+ M-
Journey Departure $8.99 VG VG+
Journey Captured $6.29 VG VG+
Journey Escape $6.29 VG+ VG
Journey Frontiers $SOLD VG G+
Ken Griffin (2) Latin Americana $4.49 G+ VG
Ken Moule Cool Moule $26.99 VG+ VG
Kenny Burrell Tin Tin Deo $6.29 VG VG
Kenny Burrell A Generation Ago Today $5.39 VG VG
Kenny Burrell / Jimmy Smith Blue Bash $1.79 G G+
Keola & Kapono Beamer Honolulu City Lights $3.59 VG+ VG
King Pleasure Golden Days $3.14 G+ VG+
Kingston Trio Tom Dooley $2.69 VG+ VG+
Kingston Trio New Frontier $1.79 VG VG
Kool & The Gang The Force $3.59 VG VG
Kurt Wege And His Orchestra A Leroy Anderson Concert $4.49 M- VG+
Larry Coryell The Lion And The Ram $5.39 VG G+
Larry Santos Larry Santos $4.49 VG+ VG
Larsen-Feiten Band Larsen-Feiten Band $2.69 M- M-
Lawson-Haggart Jazz Band College Fight Songs (March Medleys) $11.69 VG+ VG
Lenny Williams Choosing You $2.69 VG G+
Leroy Anderson & His Orchestra Blue Tango And Other Favorites $0.89 G VG+
Les & Larry Elgart Warm And Sensuous $5.39 VG+ VG+
Les Brown And His Band Of Renown Goes Direct To Disc $6.29 M- M-
Les Crane Desiderata $2.24 VG VG+
Les McCann Talk To The People $1.79 F VG
Les Paul & Mary Ford Time To Dream $1.79 VG G+
Lester Young Just You, Just Me $4.49 VG VG+
Lester Young / Charlie Parker / Dizzy Gillespie Early Modern: 1946 Concert Recordings $4.49 VG+ VG+
Lily Pons Popular Concert $7.19 VG+ VG+
Linda Ronstadt & Nelson Riddle And His Orchestra What's New $1.79 M- M-
Linda Ronstadt With Nelson Riddle And His Orchestra For Sentimental Reasons $2.69 M- M-
Lionel Hampton Soft Vibes Soaring Strings $2.69 VG G+
Lionel Hampton And His Orchestra Lionel Hampton Apollo Hall Concert 1954 $1.79 VG+ VG+
Little Anthony & The Imperials I'm On The Outside (Looking In) $6.29 VG+ VG+
Little Feat Waiting For Columbus $8.09 VG+ VG+
Little Feat Dixie Chicken $5.39 VG VG
Little Feat Time Loves A Hero $3.14 VG VG
Los Indios Tabajaras The Many-Splendored Guitars Of Los Indios Tabajaras $3.14 VG+ VG+
Los Indios Tabajaras The Best Of $SOLD VG+ VG
Louis Armstrong Louis Armstrong's Hello, Dolly! $16.19 M- M-
Louis Armstrong Louis Armstrong Plays W. C. Handy $8.99 VG+ VG+
Louis Armstrong In The 30's - In The 40's $5.39 M- VG+
Louis Armstrong Louis Armstrong Favorites Volume 4 $5.39 VG+ VG+
Louis Armstrong At The Carnegie Hall $SOLD VG+ VG+
Louis Armstrong & His Hot Seven Louis Armstrong Story - Volume 2 $6.29 VG+ VG+
Louis Armstrong And His All-Stars Satchmo At Symphony Hall Vol.2 $11.69 VG+ VG+
Louis Armstrong And His All-Stars Satch Plays Fats: A Tribute To The Immortal Fats Waller By Louis Armstrong And His All-Stars $8.99 VG+ VG+
Louis Armstrong And His All-Stars Satchmo At Symphony Hall $6.29 VG+ VG+
Louis Armstrong And His All-Stars Satchmo At Symphony Hall Vol. 1 $4.49 VG VG
Louis Armstrong And His All-Stars Ambassador Satch $4.41 VG+ VG
Louis Armstrong And His Orchestra A Rare Batch Of Satch $5.39 VG+ VG
Louis Armstrong With Luis Russell And His Orchestra And Jack Purvis And His Orchestra Satchmo Style $SOLD M- VG+
Louis Armstrong With Russell Garcia I've Got The World On A String $SOLD VG+ VG+
Louis Armstrong, Fats Waller, Jack Teagarden, Bud Freeman, Al Casey, George Wettling Pops $3.59 VG+ VG+
Louis Lesther Deshabille Moi $2.24 VG+ VG+
Ludwig Van Beethoven : Josef Krips, The London Symphony Orchestra Complete Nine Symphonies $13.49 M- VG+
Madonna You Can Dance $3.14 VG VG+
Manteca (2) No Heroes $4.49 M- VG+
Mariachi Vargas de Tecalitlán De Las Mañanitas... A Las Golondrinas $8.99 M- M-
Marian McPartland Plays Music Of Leonard Bernstein $2.69 VG G+
Martial Solal Trio The Martial Solal Trio In Concert $11.69 VG+ VG+
Martin Denny Quiet Village - The Exotic Sounds Of Martin Denny $SOLD VG+ VG+
Martin Denny Sayonara $3.59 VG+ VG+
Max Steiner Gone With The Wind (Original Soundtrack Album) $4.49 VG+ VG+
Maynard Ferguson Around The Horn With Maynard Ferguson $2.24 VG G+
Merle Travis Strictly Guitar $7.64 VG+ VG+
Michel Legrand The Happy Ending (Original Motion Picture Score) $2.69 M- VG+
Michel Legrand Et Son Orchestre I Love Paris $4.49 VG+ VG+
Michel Legrand Et Son Orchestre Castles In Spain $2.24 VG VG
Mike Stern Upside Downside $4.49 M- VG+
Miles Davis Kind Of Blue $44.99 G+ G+
Miles Davis Seven Steps To Heaven $11.24 VG+ M-
Miles Davis Quiet Nights $6.74 G+ VG
Miles Davis Porgy And Bess $4.49 G+ G+
Milt Buckner Mighty High $3.59 VG VG
Milt Jackson The Art Of Milt Jackson - The Atlantic Years $4.49 VG+ G+
Milt Jackson Quintet Featuring Ray Brown That's The Way It Is $1.79 G VG
Mitch Miller And The Gang Still More Sing Along With Mitch $0.89 VG M-
Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels Take A Ride... $31.49 VG+ M-
Mongo Santamaria El Pussy Cat $5.39 VG VG+
Mongo Santamaria Mongo '70 $3.59 G+ VG+
Mongo Santamaria All Strung Out $3.59 VG VG
Morton Gould Hi-Fi Band Concert $17.99 M VG+
Morton Gould And His Orchestra Morton Gould Program $3.59 VG+ VG+
Muggsy Spanier And His Dixieland Band Muggsy Spanier And His Dixieland Band $0.89 G G+
Music Minus One For Drummers Only! $7.19 VG+ VG+
Nancy Wilson / Cannonball Adderley Nancy Wilson / Cannonball Adderley $8.99 VG+ VG+
Nancy Wilson / The Cannonball Adderley Quintet Nancy Wilson / Cannonball Adderley $2.69 G+ G+
Nancy Wilson / The Cannonball Adderley Quintet Nancy Wilson / Cannonball Adderley $1.79 G+ VG
Nat King Cole / George Shearing Nat King Cole Sings / George Shearing Plays $0.89 G VG+
Nathan Page Page 1 $67.49 VG+ VG+
Neil Larsen High Gear $3.59 VG+ VG+
No Artist Bird Songs In Your Garden $3.58 VG+ VG
Nova (38) Sun City $4.04 VG+ VG+
Off Broadway usa Quick Turns $2.69 M- VG+
Oscar Peterson The Great Oscar Peterson On Prestige $6.29 M- VG+
Oscar Peterson The Great Oscar Peterson On Prestige $6.29 VG+ VG+
Oscar Peterson Something Warm $6.29 VG+ VG+
Oscar Peterson The Jazz Soul Of Oscar Peterson $3.59 G+ VG
Oscar Peterson Great Connection $3.59 VG+ No Cover
Paquito D'Rivera Why Not! $4.49 M- VG+
Pat Martino Live! $7.19 VG F
Pat Metheny Group First Circle $5.39 M- VG+
Paul Shaffer Coast To Coast $5.39 M- M-
Paul Whiteman And His Orchestra Featuring Bing Crosby Paul Whiteman And His Orchestra Featuring Bing Crosby $3.14 VG+ VG+
Pearl Bailey Around The World With Me $4.49 VG+ VG+
Pete Seeger Birds Beasts Bugs And Bigger Fishes $5.39 VG VG+
Petula Clark These Are My Songs $1.79 VG+ VG+
Phil Collins Hello, I Must Be Going! $2.69 VG+ VG
Phil Collins No Jacket Required $SOLD VG VG
Philip Bailey Chinese Wall $0.44 G+ VG+
Phineas Newborn Jr. A World Of Piano ! $SOLD VG G+
Phineas Newborn Jr. With Dennis Farnon And His Orchestra While My Lady Sleeps $3.59 VG VG
Poco Loco Guitars Plus Brass (5) Lightly Latin $2.69 VG+ VG
Procol Harum Live - In Concert With The Edmonton Symphony Orchestra $2.69 VG+ VG+
Procol Harum Live - In Concert With The Edmonton Symphony Orchestra $1.79 VG VG+
Procol Harum Live - In Concert With The Edmonton Symphony Orchestra $1.34 VG VG
Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky / The Boston Pops Orchestra Tchaikovsky The Nutcracker, Op. 71 (Excerpts) $6.29 VG+ VG
Quarterflash Quarterflash $1.79 VG+ VG
Queen Samantha The Letter $2.69 M VG+
Rafael Mendez Magnificent Mendez $4.49 G+ VG
Ramsey Lewis Dancing In The Street $3.59 G+ VG
Ramsey Lewis Goin' Latin $3.59 VG+ VG+
Ramsey Lewis Maiden Voyage $1.79 G VG
Ramsey Lewis Wade In The Water $1.34 G+ VG+
Ramsey Lewis The Groover $1.34 G+ G+
Ramsey Lewis & Nancy Wilson The Two Of Us $1.79 G+ VG
Ray Charles A Portrait Of Ray $3.59 M- VG+
Ray Charles / Ivory Joe Hunter / Jimmy Rushing Three Of A Kind (3 Top Stars Of Blues Singing) $0.44 G+ VG
Ray Charles And The George Brown Orchestra Spotlight On Ray Charles Vol. II $1.79 G+ G+
Ray Conniff The Ray Conniff Love Album $11.69 M- VG+
Red Nichols And His Pennies Class Of '39 $5.39 VG+ VG
Redd Foxx Foxx-A-Delic $3.59 VG G+
Redd Foxx The Best Of Redd Foxx $1.79 VG VG+
REO Speedwagon R.E.O. Speedwagon $3.59 VG+ VG+
Richard "Groove" Holmes Welcome Home $5.39 VG VG
Richard M. Sherman & Robert B. Sherman Chitty Chitty Bang Bang $4.49 VG+ VG+
Richard Osborn (2) Endless $8.99 VG+ VG+
Richard Strauss, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Horn Concerto In E Flat Major Op 11 - Clarinet Concerto In A Major K 622 $8.99 VG VG
Robin Trower Bridge Of Sighs $4.49 VG+ VG
Rodgers & Hammerstein Oklahoma! $2.69 VG+ M-
Rollie Hudson "On Top Of The World" Rollie Hudson At The Yamaha EX-1 $8.09 M- M-
Rosemary Clooney / José Ferrer Rosemary Clooney Sings (Let's Give) A Christmas Present To Santa Claus / Jose Ferrer Sings March Of The Christmas Toys $8.99 VG G+
Rosie O'Grady's Good Time Jazz Band Dixie-Direct Featuring Rosie O'Grady's Good Time Jazz Band $6.29 VG+ VG+
Roy Clark The Roy Clark Guitar Spectacular! $3.14 VG VG+
Roy Milton Roots of Rock Vol. 1 $8.99 G+ G+
Roy Smeck The Haunting Hawaiian Guitar $SOLD VG VG+
Rubin Mitchell Presenting Rubin Mitchell $1.34 VG VG+
Rush All The World's A Stage $5.84 VG VG
Ruth Brown The Real Ruth Brown $3.59 G+ VG
Sam & Dave The Best Of Sam & Dave $SOLD M- M-
Sarah Vaughan With Voices $2.69 VG VG+
Sarah Vaughan With George Treadwell And His All Stars Sarah Vaughan $0.44 Poor (P) G
Scott Joplin, Joshua Rifkin Piano Rags $1.79 VG+ VG+
Seawind Light The Light $3.59 VG+ VG
Shelly Manne "The Three" & "The Two" $7.19 VG+ VG
Shelly Manne & His Friends Modern Jazz Performances Of Songs From My Fair Lady $7.19 M- VG
Shelly Manne & His Friends Modern Jazz Performances Of Songs From Li'l Abner $2.69 G+ G+
Shirley Scott On A Clear Day $5.39 VG VG+
Shirley Scott Trio Great Scott!! $7.19 VG VG+
Shirley Scott Trio For Members Only $6.29 VG VG
Shorty Rogers And His Giants Shorty Rogers And His Giants $13.49 VG VG
Sonny Boy Williamson (2) & The Animals The Night Time Is The Right Time $5.39 VG VG
Sonny Stitt Come Hither $3.14 G+ VG
Spyro Gyra Freetime $3.14 VG+ VG+
Spyro Gyra Morning Dance $2.24 M- VG+
Stan Getz Quintet / The Charlie Parker Quintet The Saxes Of Stan Getz And Charlie Parker $6.29 VG VG
Stan Kenton Encores $1.34 G G
Stan Kenton Standards In Silhouette $0.89 G+ VG
Stan Kenton And His Orchestra Stan Kenton Classics $8.09 VG+ VG+
Stanley Clarke I Wanna Play For You $1.79 VG F
Stephen Stills Stephen Stills Live $6.29 M- M-
Steps Ahead Steps Ahead $4.49 VG+ VG+
Steps Ahead Modern Times $3.59 M- M-
Steps Ahead Magnetic $3.59 VG+ M-
Steve Marcus Sometime Other Than Now $3.59 VG+ VG+
Steve Martin (2) Let's Get Small $0.89 VG VG
Steve Martin (2) A Wild And Crazy Guy $0.89 VG VG
Steve Smith (5), Vital Information Vital Information $1.79 VG+ VG
Steve White (22) Jazz Mad: The Unpredictable Steve White $8.09 VG VG+
Stevie Wonder Songs In The Key Of Life $22.49 VG+ VG+
Sting The Dream Of The Blue Turtles $5.39 VG+ VG+
Sting The Dream Of The Blue Turtles $4.49 VG+ VG+
Stomu Yamash'ta / Steve Winwood / Michael Shrieve Go $2.69 VG+ VG+
Stomu Yamashta's Go Go Too $4.49 M- VG+
Supersax Supersax Plays Bird $2.69 VG+ VG
Supersax Salt Peanuts $0.44 G VG
T. Lavitz Storytime $3.59 VG+ VG+
Tal Farlow Tal Farlow '78 $3.59 VG+ VG+
Ten Years After Ssssh. $3.14 VG G+
Teresa Brewer Till I Waltz Again With You $8.99 VG VG+
The 18th Century Concepts In The 20th Century Bag $2.69 VG VG
The Band The Best Of The Band $SOLD VG+ M-
The Band Rock Of Ages: The Band In Concert $4.49 VG VG
The Beach Boys Wild Honey $25.19 M- VG+
The Beach Boys Ten Years Of Harmony $4.04 VG+ VG+
The Beach Boys Concert $3.59 VG+ VG+
The Beatles Let It Be $8.09 G+ VG
The Bluegrass Band Another Saturday Night $2.69 VG VG
The Canadian Brass Mostly Fats $2.24 VG+ VG+
The Cannonball Adderley Quintet Mercy, Mercy, Mercy! - Live At "The Club" $SOLD VG VG+
The Cannonball Adderley Quintet Country Preacher $5.39 VG VG
The Charlie Barnet Quartet Jazz Oasis $1.79 G+ G+
The Charlie Rouse Band Cinnamon Flower $3.59 VG+ VG+
The Crusaders Old Socks, New Shoes...New Socks, Old Shoes $3.59 VG G+
The Dave Brubeck Quartet Jazz Impressions Of The U.S.A. $9.89 VG+ VG+
The Dave Brubeck Quartet Jazz Impressions Of Eurasia $2.69 G+ G
The Dave Brubeck Quartet Brubeck Time $1.34 F G+
The Dixie Rebels Dixieland $4.49 VG+ VG+
The Don Elliott Quintet The Don Elliott Quintet $8.99 VG VG
The Doobie Brothers One Step Closer $2.24 VG+ VG+
The Doors The Soft Parade $10.79 VG+ VG+
The Doors The Soft Parade $9.89 VG+ VG+
The Dukes Of Dixieland Piano Ragtime With The Dukes Of Dixieland, Volume 11 $3.14 VG+ VG+
The Fents The Other Side $2.69 VG+ VG+
The Fireballs The Fireballs $8.09 G+ VG
The Four Freshmen The Best Of The Four Freshmen $4.49 VG+ VG+
The French Market Jazz Band Direct From New Orleans $5.39 VG VG+
The George Russell Sextet George Russell Sextet In K.C. $SOLD VG+ VG+
The George Russell Sextet Featuring Don Ellis & Eric Dolphy 1 2 3 4 5 6extet $17.99 VG+ VG+
The George Shearing Quintet San Francisco Scene $6.29 M M
The George Shearing Quintet An Evening With The George Shearing Quintet $0.89 G+ VG
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The Hollyday Brothers Oh Brother! $1.79 VG+ G+
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The Ink Spots Vol. 1 $2.69 G VG
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The Jeff Lorber Fusion Galaxian $3.59 VG VG+
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The Lettermen Traces/Memories $0.89 VG M-
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The Ramsey Lewis Trio Down To Earth (Music From The Soil) $5.39 VG+ VG+
The Ramsey Lewis Trio The In Crowd $4.49 G+ VG+
The Ramsey Lewis Trio Ramsey Lewis And The Gentlemen Of Jazz - Volume 2 $4.04 G+ VG+
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The Ramsey Lewis Trio The In Crowd $2.69 G+ VG
The Ramsey Lewis Trio More Sounds Of Christmas $2.24 G+ VG+
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The Searchers This Is Us $3.59 VG VG+
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The Sunshine Band The Sound Of Sunshine $2.69 VG+ VG
The Temptations Live! $3.59 VG VG
The Three Suns Twilight Memories $0.89 VG VG+
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The Ventures Hawaii Five-O $1.79 G+ M-
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Tina Charles Heart 'N' Soul $5.39 VG+ VG+
Tina Charles Rendezvous $1.34 VG+ VG+
Tito Portillo And His Orchestra A Night In Latin America $4.04 VG VG+
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Various Milestone Twofers $4.49 VG+ VG
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Willis Jackson Keep On A Blowin' $13.49 VG VG
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Y & T Black Tiger $8.09 VG+ VG
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2017.11.20 14:16 tombstoneshadows28 All of the MPAA-rated films which received a release to theaters (sometimes even just A theater) in the United States during calendar year 2017.

Of 13,907 titles released worldwide, the below are all of the MPAA-rated films which received a release to theatres (sometimes even just A theater) in the United States during calendar year 2017.
(Note: the dates following each are the years during which the titles were filmed.)
G
  1. Ballerina (a.k.a. Leap!) (2016) Éric Summer & Éric Warin
  2. Born In China (2016) Chuan Lu
  3. Cars 3 (2017) Brian Fee
  4. Die Häschenschule: Jagd nach dem goldenen Ei (2017) Ute von Münchow-Pohl
  5. Mr. Rudolpho's Jubilee (2017) Michael Glover
  6. Robo-Dog: Airborne (2017) Anthony Steven Giordano
  7. The Children of Genghis (2017) Zolbayar Dorj
  8. The Horse Dancer (2017) Joel Paul Reisig
PG
  1. A Cowgirl's Story (2017) Timothy Armstrong
  2. A Dog's Purpose (2017) Lasse Hallström
  3. All Saints (2017) Steve Gomer
  4. American Folk (2017) David Heinz
  5. An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth To Power (2017) Bonnie Cohen & Jon Shenk
  6. Apple of My Eye (2017) Castille Landon
  7. A Question of Faith (2017) Kevan Otto
  8. A Stork's Journey (2017) Toby Genkel & Reza Memari
  9. A Witches' Ball (2017) Justin G. Dyck
  10. Batman vs. Two-Face (2017) Rick Morales
  11. Beauty and the Beast (2017) Bill Condon
  12. Bunyan and Babe (2017) Louis Ross
  13. Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie (2017) David Soren
  14. Champion (2017) Judd Brannon
  15. Churchill (2017) Jonathan Teplitzky
  16. Coco (2017) Lee Unkrich & Adrian Molina
  17. Day of Days (2017) Kim Bass
  18. Deep (2017) Julio Soto Gurpide
  19. Despicable Me 3 (2017) Kyle Balda, Pierre Coffin & Eric Guillon
  20. Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul (2017) David Bowers
  21. Disney's Newsies the Broadway Musical (2017) Jeff Calhoun & Brett Sullivan
  22. Faces Places (Visages, Villages) (2017) Agnès Varda & J.R.
  23. Ferdinand (2017) Carlos Saldanha
  24. Gnome Alone (2017) Peter Lepeniotis & Shelly Shenoy
  25. God Bless The Broken Road (2017) Harold Cronk
  26. Goodbye Christopher Robin (2017) Simon Curtis
  27. Heartbeats (2017) Duane Adler
  28. Kikoriki. Legend of the Golden Dragon (2017) Denis Chernov
  29. Live Like Line (2017) Sean McNamara
  30. Love, Kennedy (2017) T.C. Christense
  31. Mary and the Witch's Flower (2017) Hiromasa Yonebayashi
  32. Max 2: White House Hero (2017) Brian Levant
  33. Menashe (2017) Joshua Z Weinstein
  34. Monster Family (2017) Holger Tappe
  35. Monsters At Large (2017) Jason Murphy
  36. Monster Trucks (2016) Chris Wedge
  37. My Little Pony: The Movie (2017) Jayson Thiessen
  38. Ned Venture (2017) Ron Stone
  39. Paris Can Wait (Bonjour Anne) (2016) Eleanor Coppola
  40. Pup Star: Better 2Gether (2017) Robert Vince
  41. Pure Country Pure Heart (2017) Damon Santostefano
  42. Rock Dog (2016) Ash Brannon
  43. Running Wild (2017) Alex Ranarivelo
  44. Scales: Mermaids Are Real (2017) Kevan Peterson
  45. Slamma Jamma (2017) Timothy A. Chey
  46. Smurfs: The Lost Village (2017) Kelly Asbury
  47. Spark: A Space Tail (2016) Aaron Woodley
  48. Step (2017) Amanda Lipitz
  49. Sweet Sweet Summertime (2017) Ken Carpenter
  50. The Boss Baby (2017) Tom McGrath
  51. The Case for Christ (2017) Jon Gunn
  52. The Emoji Movie (2017) Tony Leondis
  53. The Greatest Showman (2017) Michael Gracey
  54. The King’s Daughter (2017) Sean McNamara
  55. The LEGO Batman Movie (2017) Chris McKay
  56. The LEGO Ninjago Movie (2017) Charlie Bean, Paul Fisher & Bob Logan
  57. The Man Who Invented Christmas (2017) Bharat Nalluri
  58. The Nut Job 2: Nutty by Nature (2017) Cal Brunker
  59. The Red Turtle (La tortue rouge) (2016) Michael Dudok de Wit
  60. The Resurrection Of Gavin Stone (2016) Dallas Jenkins
  61. The Santa Files (2017) Tom DeNucci
  62. The Star (2017) Timothy Reckart
  63. The Stray (2017) Mitch Davis
  64. The Wedding Plan (Laavor et hakir) (2016) Rama Burshtein
  65. Treasure Hounds (2017) Tim Brown
  66. We Love You, Sally Carmichael! (2017) Christopher Gorham
  67. Wheeler (2017) Ryan Ross
  68. Wonder (2017) Stephen Chbosky
  69. Wonderstruck (2017) Todd Haynes
  70. Woody Woodpecker (2017) Alex Zamm
PG-13
  1. 2:22 (2017) Paul Currie
  2. 3 Generations (2015) Gaby Dellal
  3. 3 Idiotas (2017) Carlos Bolado
  4. 47 Meters Down (2017) Johannes Roberts
  5. 6 Below: Miracle on the Mountain (2017) Scott Waugh
  6. Aardvark (2017) Brian Shoaf
  7. Amityville: The Awakening (2017) Franck Khalfoun
  8. A Quiet Passion (2016) Terence Davies
  9. A United Kingdom (2016) Amma Asante
  10. Battle of the Sexes (2017) Jonathan Dayton & Valerie Faris
  11. Because Of Grácia (2017) Tom Simes
  12. Before I Fall (2017) Ry Russo-Young
  13. Birth Of The Dragon (2016) George Nolfi
  14. Breathe (2017) Andy Serkis
  15. Brigsby Bear (2017) Dave McCary
  16. Bring It On: Worldwide #Cheersmack (2017) Robert Adetuyi
  17. Burn Your Maps (2016) Jordan Roberts
  18. Daisy Winters (2017) Beth LaMure
  19. Collide (2016) Eran Creevy
  20. Contemporary Color (2017) Bill Ross IV & Turner Ross
  21. Crooked House (2017) Gilles Paquet-Brenner
  22. Daddy's Home 2 (2017) Sean Anders
  23. Darkest Hour (2017) Joe Wright
  24. Deadly Sanctuary (2017) Nancy Criss
  25. Dean (2016) Demetri Martin
  26. Dirt (2017) Alex Ranarivelo
  27. Disconnected (2017) Anastazja Davis
  28. Different Flowers (2017) Morgan Dameron
  29. Down A Dark Hall (2017) Rodrigo Cortés
  30. Dragonheart: Battle for the Heartfire (2017) Patrik Syversen
  31. Dunkirk (2017) Christopher Nolan
  32. Elizabeth Blue (2017) Vincent Sabella
  33. Everybody Loves Somebody (2017) Catalina Aguilar Mastretta
  34. Everything, Everything (2017) Stella Meghie
  35. Feed (2017) Tommy Bertelsen
  36. Finding Fatimah (2017) Oz Arshad
  37. Flatliners (2017) Niels Arden Oplev
  38. Frantz (2016) François Ozon
  39. Generational Sins (2017) Spencer T. Folmar
  40. Geostorm (2017) Dean Devlin
  41. Ghost in the Shell (2017) Rupert Sanders
  42. Gifted (2017) Marc Webb
  43. Going in Style (2017) Zach Braff
  44. Growing Up Smith (Good Ol’ Boy) (2015) Frank Lotito
  45. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) James Gunn
  46. Happy Death Day (2017) Christopher Landon
  47. Hogan (2017) Jah
  48. Home Again (2017) Hallie Meyers-Shye
  49. How to Be a Latin Lover (2017) Ken Marino
  50. I Am Not Your Negro (2016) Raoul Peck
  51. Intent (2017) Tim Crockett
  52. Journey to the West: The Demons Strike Back (2017) Hark Tsui
  53. Jumanji: Welcome To The Jungle (2017) Jake Kasdan
  54. Just Getting Started (2017) Ron Shelton
  55. Justice League (2017) Zack Snyder & Joss Whedon
  56. Killing Angels (2017) Daniel Rentas
  57. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword (2017) Guy Ritchie
  58. Kong: Skull Island (2017) Jordan Vogt-Roberts
  59. Let There Be Light (2017) Kevin Sorbo
  60. Logan Lucky (2017) Steven Soderbergh
  61. Loving Vincent (2017) Dorota Kobiela &Hugh Welchman
  62. Mamaboy (2017) Aaron Leong
  63. Mark Felt: The Man Who Brought Down the White House (2017) Peter Landesman
  64. Marshall (2017) Reginald Hudlin
  65. Maudie (2016) Aisling Walsh
  66. Megan Leavey (2017) Gabriela Cowperthwaite
  67. Mubarakan (2017) Anees Bazmee
  68. Murder on the Orient Express (2017) Kenneth Branagh
  69. My Cousin Rachel (2017) Roger Michell
  70. My Entire High School Sinking Into the Sea (2016) Dash Shaw
  71. My Life As A Zucchini (2016) Claude Barras
  72. November Criminals (2017) Sacha Gervasi
  73. Only the Brave (2017) Joseph Kosinski
  74. Overdrive (2017) Antonio Negret
  75. Permanent (2017) Colette Burson
  76. Phoenix Forgotten (2017) Justin Barber
  77. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (2017) Joachim Rønning & Espen Sandberg
  78. Pitch Perfect III (2017) Trish Sie
  79. Please Stand By (2017) Ben Lewin
  80. Poster Boys (2017) Shreyas Talpade
  81. Pottersville (2017) Seth Henrikson
  82. Power Rangers (2017) Dean Israelite
  83. Pray for Rain (2017) Alex Ranarivelo
  84. Rebel in the Rye (2017) Danny Strong
  85. Rememory (2017) Mark Palansky
  86. Renegades (2017) Steven Quale
  87. Rings (2017) F. Javier Gutiérrez
  88. Roman J. Israel, Esq. (2017) Dan Gilroy
  89. Same Kind of Different as Me (2017) Michael Carney
  90. School Life (In Loco Parentis) (2016) Neasa Ní Chianáin & David Rane
  91. Singularity (2017) Robert Kouba
  92. Speech & Debate (2017) Dan Harris
  93. Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) Jon Watts
  94. SPF-18 (2017) Alex Israel
  95. Star Wars - Episode VIII: The Last Jedi (2017) Rian Johnson
  96. Sinner City (2017) Domini Quinn Supastar
  97. Table 19 (2017) Jeffrey Blitz
  98. The Black Prince (2017) Kavi Raz
  99. The Book of Henry (2017) Colin Trevorrow
  100. The Book of Love (The Devil and the Deep Blue Sea) (2016) Bill Purple
  101. The Boy Downstairs (2017) Sophie Brooks
  102. The Breadwinner (2017) Nora Twomey
  103. The Bye Bye Man (2017) Stacy Title
  104. The Circle (2017) James Ponsoldt
  105. The Dark Tower (2017) Nikolaj Arcel
  106. The Fate of the Furious (2017) F. Gary Gray
  107. The Founder (2016) John Lee Hancock
  108. The Glass Castle (2017) Destin Daniel Cretton
  109. The Good Catholic (2017) Paul Shoulberg
  110. The Gracefield Incident (2017) Mathieu Ratthe
  111. The Great Wall (2017) Zhang Yimou
  112. The Journey (2016) Nick Hamm
  113. The Keeping Hours (2017) Karen Moncrieff
  114. The Lost City Of Z (2016) James Gray
  115. The Mountain Between Us (2017) Hany Abu-Assad
  116. The Mummy (2017) Alex Kurtzman
  117. The Neighborhood (2017) Frank D'Angelo
  118. The Outcasts (2017) Peter Hutchings
  119. The Post (2017) Steven Spielberg
  120. The Salesman (Forushande) (2016) Asghar Farhadi
  121. The Sense of an Ending (2017) Ritesh Batra
  122. The Shack (2017) Stuart Hazeldine
  123. The Space Between Us (2017) Peter Chelsom
  124. The Zookeeper's Wife (2017) Niki Caro
  125. Thor: Ragnarok (2017) Taika Waititi
  126. Til Death Do Us Part (II) (2017) Chris Stokes
  127. Tim Timmerman, Hope of America (2017) Cameron Sawyer
  128. Transformers: The Last Knight (2017) Michael Bay
  129. Tyler Perry's Boo 2! A Madea Halloween (2017) Tyler Perry
  130. Unbelievable!!!!! (2017) Steven L. Fawcette
  131. Undercover Grandpa (2017) Erik Canuel
  132. Un Padre No Tan Padre (2016) Don Servando
  133. Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets (2017) Luc Besson
  134. Victoria and Abdul (2017) Stephen Frears
  135. Walking Out (2017) Alex Smith & Andrew J. Smith
  136. War for the Planet of the Apes (2017) Matt Reeves
  137. Wish Upon (2017) John R. Leonetti
  138. Wonder Wheel (2017) Woody Allen
  139. Wonder Woman (2017) Patty Jenkins
  140. Wraith (2017) Michael O. Sajbel
  141. xXx: Return of Xander Cage (2017) D.J. Caruso
R
  1. 1040 Not So EZ (2017) David Nguyen
  2. 12 Deaths of Christmas (Mother Krampus) (2017) James Klass
  3. 13 Minutes (Elser) (2015) Oliver Hirschbiegel
  4. 24 Hours to Live (2017) Brian Smrz
  5. 6 Days (2017) Toa Fraser
  6. 68 Kill (2017) Trent Haaga
  7. 9/11 (2017) Martin Guigui
  8. A Bad Moms Christmas (2017) Jon Lucas & Scott Moore
  9. Abe's Last Poker Game (2017) Howard Weiner
  10. Abracadabra (2017) Pablo Berge
  11. Accident Man (2017) Jesse V. Johnson
  12. Acts Of Vengeance (2017) Isaac Florentine
  13. A Cure For Wellness (2016) Gore Verbinski
  14. A Fantastic Woman (2017) Sebastián Lelio
  15. Aftermath (2017) Elliott Lester
  16. A Ghost Story (2017) David Lowery
  17. Alien: Covenant (2017) Ridley Scott
  18. Alive and Kicking (2016) Susan Glatzer
  19. All Eyez on Me (2017) Benny Boom
  20. All Nighter (2017) Gavin Wiesen
  21. Alone in Berlin (2016) Vincent Pérez
  22. Altitude (2017) Alex Merkin
  23. American Assassin (2017) Michael Cuesta
  24. American Made (2017) Doug Liman
  25. American Satan (2017) Ash Avildsen
  26. Americons (2017) Theo Avgerinos
  27. Annabelle: Creation (2017) David F. Sandberg
  28. Anything (2017) Timothy McNeil
  29. A Prayer Before Dawn (2017) Jean-Stéphane Sauvaire
  30. Armed (2017) Mario Van Peebles
  31. Armed Response (2017) John Stockwell
  32. Arsenal (2017) Steven C. Miller
  33. Asomatous (2017) Harvey Lowry
  34. Atomic Blonde (2017) David Leitch
  35. Awakening the Zodiac (2017) Jonathan Wright
  36. Baby Driver (2017) Edgar Wright
  37. Bad Kids of Crestview Academy (2017) Ben Browder
  38. Band Aid (2017) Zoe Lister-Jones
  39. Battlecreek (2017) Alison Eastwood
  40. Baywatch (2017) Seth Gordon
  41. Beach Rats (2017) Eliza Hittman
  42. Beatriz at Dinner (2017) Miguel Arteta
  43. Berlin Syndrome (2017) Cate Shortland
  44. Better Watch Out (2016) Chris Peckover
  45. Beyond Skyline (2017) Liam O'Donnell
  46. Bitter Harvest (2017) George Mendeluk
  47. Black Butterfly (2017) Brian Goodman
  48. Blade of the Immortal (2017) Takashi Miike
  49. Blade Runner 2049 (2017) Denis Villeneuve
  50. Blind (2017) Michael Mailer
  51. Blood Money (2017) Lucky McKee
  52. Blue Line (2017) Jacob Cooney
  53. Brad's Status (2017) Mike White
  54. Breakable You (2017) Andrew Wagner
  55. Bullet Head (2017) Paul Solet
  56. Busted (2017) Paul D. Hannah
  57. Call Me by Your Name (2017) Luca Guadagnino
  58. Chapter & Verse (2017) Jamal Joseph
  59. Cezanne et moi (2016) Danièle Thompson
  60. CHiPs (2017) Dax Shepard
  61. City Of Ghosts (2017) Matthew Heineman
  62. Colossal (2016) Nacho Vigalondo
  63. Cops And Robbers (2017) Scott Windhauser
  64. Cover Versions (2017) Todd Berger
  65. Crash Pad (2017) Kevin Tent
  66. Cross Wars (2017) Patrick Durham
  67. Crown Heights (2017) Matt Ruskin
  68. Cult of Chucky (2017) Don Mancini
  69. Dark Games (2017) Charles Hage
  70. Detour (2016) Christopher Smith
  71. Detroit (2017) Kathryn Bigelow
  72. Dirty Dealing 3D (2017) Christopher Robin Hood
  73. Do It Like An Hombre (2017) Nicolás López
  74. Eloise (2017) Robert Legato
  75. Escape Room (2017) Will Wernick
  76. Escape Room (2017) Peter Dukes
  77. Extortion (2017) Phil Volken
  78. Father Figures (2017) Lawrence Sher
  79. Fifty Shades Darker (2017) James Foley
  80. Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool (2017) Paul McGuigan
  81. Final Portrait (2017) Stanley Tucci
  82. Fireangels: A Drifter's Fury (2017) Aeneas Middleton
  83. First Kill (2017) Steven C. Miller
  84. First Reformed (2017) Paul Schrader
  85. Fist Fight (2017) Richie Keen
  86. Free Fire (2016) Ben Wheatley
  87. Fun Mom Dinner (2017) Alethea Jones
  88. Gemini (2017) Aaron Katz
  89. Get Out (2017) Jordan Peele
  90. Get the Girl (2017) Eric England
  91. Girls Trip (2017) Malcolm D. Lee
  92. Gold (2016) Stephen Gaghan
  93. Golden Exits (2017) Alex Ross Perry
  94. Good Time (2017) Benny Safdie & Josh Safdie
  95. Goon: Last of the Enforcers (2017) Jay Baruchel
  96. Gotti (2017) Kevin Connolly
  97. Graduation (Bacalaureat) (2016) Christian Mungiu
  98. Grey Lady (2017) John Shea
  99. Grow House (2017) DJ Pooh
  100. Guerrilla Blood (2017) James D. Froio
  101. Gun Shy (2017) Simon West
  102. Hangman (2017) Johnny Martin
  103. Happy End (2017) Michael Haneke
  104. Hostiles (2017) Scott Cooper
  105. How to Talk to Girls at Parties (2017) John Cameron Mitchell
  106. Hush Money (2017) Terrell Lamont
  107. I, Daniel Blake (2016) Ken Loach
  108. I Do... Until I Don't (2017) Lake Bell
  109. Inconceivable (2017) Jonathan Baker
  110. Ingrid Goes West (2017) Matt Spicer
  111. In Search of Fellini (2017) Taron Lexton
  112. IT (2017) Andy Muschietti
  113. I, Tonya (2017) Craig Gillespie
  114. It Comes at Night (2017) Trey Edward Shults
  115. Jawbone (2017) Thomas Napper
  116. Jeremiah Tower: The Last Magnificent (2016) Lydia Tenaglia
  117. Jigsaw (2017) Michael Spierig & Peter Spierig
  118. John Wick: Chapter 2 (2017) Chad Stahelski
  119. Jungle (2017) Greg McLean
  120. Justice (2017) Richard Gabai
  121. Keep Watching (2017) Sean Carter
  122. Khali the Killer (2017) Jon Matthews
  123. Kickboxer: Retaliation (2017) Dimitri Logothetis
  124. Kidnap (2017) Luis Prieto
  125. Kill 'em All (2017) Peter Malota
  126. Killing Gunther (2017) Taran Killam
  127. Killing Hasselhoff (2017) Darren Grant
  128. Kill Switch (2017) Tim Smit
  129. Kingsman: The Golden Circle (2017) Matthew Vaughn
  130. Krystal (2017) William H. Macy
  131. Lady Bird (2017) Greta Gerwig
  132. Lady Macbeth (2016) William Oldroyd
  133. Lady-Like (2016) Brent Craft
  134. Landline (2017) Gillian Robespierre
  135. Last Flag Flying (2017) Richard Linklater
  136. Last Rampage: The Escape of Gary Tison (2017) Dwight H. Little
  137. Lean on Pete (2017) Andrew Haigh
  138. Leatherface (2017) Alexandre Bustillo & Julien Maury
  139. Life (2017) Daniel Espinosa
  140. Logan (2017) James Mangold
  141. London Heist (Gunned Down) (2017) Mark McQueen
  142. Long Strange Trip (2017) Amir Bar-Lev
  143. Loveless (2017) Andrey Zvyagintsev
  144. Loving Pablo (2017) Fernando León de Aranoa
  145. Mississippi TurntUp (2017) Dewey Allen
  146. Molly's Game (2017) Aaron Sorkin
  147. Mom and Dad (2017) Brian Taylor
  148. mother! (2017) Darren Aronofsky
  149. Mudbound (2017) Dee Rees
  150. My Friend Dahmer (2017) Marc Meyers
  151. Never Here (2017) Camille Thoman
  152. Norman: The Moderate Rise and Tragic Fall of a New York Fixer (2016) Joseph Cedar
  153. Novitiate (2017) Margaret Betts
  154. Once Upon A Time At Christmas (2017) Paul Tanter
  155. One Percent More Humid (2017) Liz W. Garcia
  156. Open Water 3: Cage Dive (2017) Gerald Rascionato
  157. Patti Cake$ (2017) Geremy Jasper
  158. Personal Shopper (2016) Olivier Assayas
  159. Phantom Thread (2017) Paul Thomas Anderson
  160. Professor Marston and the Wonder Women (2017) Angela Robinson
  161. Psychos (2017) Sandy Chukhadarian
  162. Raw (Grave) (2016) Julia Ducournau
  163. Resident Evil: The Final Chapter (2016) Paul W.S. Anderson
  164. Resident Evil: Vendetta (2017) Takanori Tsujimoto & Alexander Von David
  165. Revolt (2017) Joe Miale
  166. Rough Night (2017) Lucia Aniello
  167. Scorched Earth (2017) Peter Howitt
  168. Security (2017) Alain Desrochers
  169. Shock and Awe (2017) Rob Reiner
  170. Shot Caller (2017) Ric Roman Waugh
  171. Sidney Hall (2017) Shawn Christensen
  172. Sleight (2016) J.D. Dillard
  173. Sleepless (2017) Baran bo Odar
  174. Slumber (2017) Jonathan Hopkins
  175. Small Town Crime (2017) Eshom Nelms & Ian Nelms
  176. Snatched (2017) Jonathan Levine
  177. Sniper: Ultimate Kill (2017) Claudio Fäh
  178. Song to Song (2017) Terrence Malick
  179. Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars (2017) Shinji Aramaki & Masaru Matsumoto
  180. Stronger (2017) David Gordon Green
  181. Suburbicon (2017) George Clooney
  182. S.W.A.T.: Under Siege (2017) Tony Giglio
  183. Sweet Virginia (2017) Jamie M. Dagg
  184. Swing State (2017) Jonathan Sheldon
  185. Tau (2017) Federico D’Alessandro
  186. T2 Trainspotting (2017) Danny Boyle
  187. Thank You for Your Service (2017) Jason Hall
  188. The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017) Jared Moshe
  189. The Bad Batch (2016) Ana Lily Amirpour
  190. The Beguiled (2017) Sofia Coppola
  191. The Belko Experiment (2016) Greg McLean
  192. The Best Thanksgiving Ever (2017) J.D. Shapiro
  193. The Big Sick (2017) Michael Showalter
  194. The Clapper (2017) Dito Montiel
  195. The Comedian (2016) Taylor Hackford
  196. The Crash (2017) Aram Rappaport
  197. The Crucifixion (2017) Xavier Gens
  198. The Death Of Stain (2017) Armando Iannucci
  199. The Dinner (2017) Oren Moverman
  200. The Disaster Artist (2017) James Franco
  201. The Exception (2016) David Laveaux
  202. The Florida Project (2017) Sean Baker
  203. The Foreigner (2017) Martin Campbell
  204. The Girl With No Name (2017) James D. Froio
  205. The Girl With All The Gifts (2016) Colm McCarthy
  206. The Guest House (2017) Maria Gargiulo
  207. The Hatching (2017) Michael Anderson
  208. The Hatred (2017) Michael G. Kehoe
  209. The Hatton Garden Job (2017) Ronnie Thompson
  210. The Hero (2017) Brett Haley
  211. The Hitman's Bodyguard (2017) Patrick Hughes
  212. The House (2017) Andrew Jay Cohen
  213. The Hunter's Prayer (2017) Jonathan Mostow
  214. The Insult (2017) Ziad Doueiri
  215. The Killing of a Sacred Deer (2017) Yorgos Lanthimos
  216. The Institute (2017) James Franco & Pamela Romanowsky
  217. Their Finest (2016) Lone Scherfig
  218. The Last Word (2017) Mark Pellington
  219. The Layover (2017) William H. Macy
  220. The Leisure Seeker (2017) Paolo Virzì
  221. The Levelling (2016) Hope Dickson Leach
  222. The Liberator (2017) Ben Lettieri
  223. The Little Hours (2017) Jeff Baena
  224. The Lost Legion (2017) David Kocar & Peters Qubic
  225. The Lovers (2017) Azazel Jacobs
  226. The Man with the Iron Heart (2017) Cédric Jimenez
  227. The Mason Brothers (2017) Keith Sutliff
  228. The Only Living Boy in New York (2017) Marc Webb
  229. The Ottoman Lieutenant (2017) Joseph Ruben
  230. The Recall (2017) Mauro Borrelli
  231. The Rider (2017) Chloé Zhao
  232. The Sandman (2017) Peter Sullivan
  233. The Shape of Water (2017) Guillermo del Toro
  234. The Show (This Is Your Death) (2017) Giancarlo Esposito
  235. The Slider (2017) Carlo Fusco
  236. The Snowman (2017) Tomas Alfredson
  237. The Square (2017) Ruben Östlund
  238. The Strange Ones (2017) Christopher Radcliff & Lauren Wolkstein
  239. The Tribes of Palos Verdes (2017) Brendan Malloy & Emmett Malloy
  240. The Trouble with Terkel (2010) Thorbjørn Christoffersen, Stefan Fjeldmark & Randolph Kret
  241. The Wall (2017) Doug Liman
  242. The Wilde Wedding (2017) Damian Harris
  243. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (2017) Martin McDonagh
  244. Tommy’s Honour (2016) Jason Connery
  245. Trafficked (2017) Will Wallace
  246. Tragedy Girls (2017) Tyler MacIntyre
  247. Trespass Against Us (2016) Adam Smith
  248. True to the Game (2017) Preston A. Whitmore II
  249. Tulip Fever (2017) Justin Chadwick
  250. Una (2016) Benedict Andrews
  251. Underworld: Blood Wars (2016) Anna Foerster
  252. Unforgettable (2017) Denise Di Novi
  253. Unlocked (2017) Michael Apted
  254. Valley of Bones (2017) Dan Glaser
  255. Vincent N Roxxy (2016) Gary Michael Schultz
  256. Voice from the Stone (2017) Eric D. Howell
  257. We Don't Belong Here (2017) Peer Pedersen
  258. Where's the Money (2017) Scott Zabielski
  259. Whose Streets? (2017) Sabaah Folayan & Damon Davis
  260. Wilson (2017) Craig Johnson
  261. Wind River (2017) Taylor Sheridan
  262. Wolves (2016) Bart Freundlich
  263. Woodshock (2017) Kate Mulleavy & Laura Mulleavy
  264. XX (2017) Roxanne Benjamin, Karyn Kusama, St. Vincent & Jovanka Vuckovic
  265. You Can't Have It (2017) André Gordon
Uncertain of release year for this at this time:
  1. All The Money In The World (2017?) Ridley Scott
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2017.08.02 02:15 FinnagainsAwake Revolutionary Integrationism: The Road to Black Freedom (Workers Vanguard) Part 2 of 2 (x-post /r/BlackLiberation)

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Workers Vanguard No. 865 3 March 2006
The Legacy of Richard S. Fraser
Revolutionary Integrationism: The Road to Black Freedom
Black History and the Class Struggle
Part Two
Part One of this article, which we conclude below, appeared in WV No. 864 (17 February).
It is profoundly wrong to assume that what actually happened in the course of history had to happen, that no other divergent paths, including radically divergent paths, were possible. The Southern civil rights movement in the early-mid 1960s offered a rare and fleeting opportunity for even a relatively small revolutionary organization to win to its program and ranks the best of a generation of young black (and white) radicals experienced in mass, militant struggle against what was then called the “white power structure.” Had such a development taken place, the subsequent course of U.S. and therefore world history would have been radically different. It was not beyond the range of historical possibility that today we would be living in a socialist world.
In the U.S. at the time, the Socialist Workers Party (SWP) was the only organization with a credible revolutionary past and traditions and with, at least formally, an authentically revolutionary program based on Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky. However, by the early 1960s, ground down by the isolation and McCarthyite witchhunting of the 1950s, the SWP had lost its revolutionary bearings. The party’s qualitative departure from its erstwhile revolutionary working-class politics began around 1960, when it slid into the role of uncritical cheerleaders for the petty-bourgeois radical-nationalist leadership of the Cuban Revolution. The SWP thus abandoned the centrality of the working class and the necessity of building Trotskyist parties in every country.
The abandonment of the struggle for Marxist leadership of the black struggle in the U.S. was the domestic reflection of the SWP’s denial of the centrality of the proletariat in the destruction of capitalism. The “Freedom Now” resolution adopted at the SWP’s 1963 Convention codified a wholesale embrace of black nationalism and was accompanied by a policy of abstention from the Southern civil rights struggle. In the name of black “self-determination,” the SWP’s Militant became an unpaid public relations organ for all manner of black “leaders,” from the pacifistic liberal Martin Luther King to the reactionary nationalist Elijah Muhammad, head of the Nation of Islam.
The Spartacist tendency originated in the early 1960s as a left opposition, the Revolutionary Tendency (RT), in the SWP. A central axis of our political fight was for an active intervention into the Southern civil rights movement based on the perspective of revolutionary integrationism, i.e., linking the struggle for black democratic rights to working-class struggle against capitalist exploitation. At the 1963 SWP Convention, the RT presented a one-page amendment to the perspectives document arguing that the party should “expend significant material resources in overcoming our isolation from Southern struggles. In helping to build a revolutionary movement in the South, our forces should work directly with and through the developing left-wing formations in the movement there. A successful outcome to our action would lead to an historic breakthrough for the Trotskyist movement.”
After the leaders and many members of the RT were expelled in late 1963-early 1964, we sought, despite our small forces, to make the civil rights struggles, North as well as South, a main focus of our intervention into society. We raised the transitional demand for a Freedom Labor Party as a means of breaking young black militants from the capitalist Democratic Party in the direction of working-class politics. As we wrote in 1967:
“Only by the development of a working-class program and by explicitly opening the door to support by white workers can real political independence be maintained, real gains won and the basis laid for eventual working-class political unity. This unity will come about when the exploited section of the white South is driven into opposition and is compelled to forego color prejudice in order to struggle along class lines against its real enemies—the owners of land and industry.
“The creation of a South-wide Freedom Labor Party would serve as a tremendous impetus for similar action by Northern workers. The struggle for such a party would necessitate a rank-and-file revolt within the organized labor movement to overthrow the present labor bureaucracy.”
—“Black and Red—Class Struggle Road to Negro Freedom,” Spartacist Special Supplement, May-June 1967; reprinted in Marxist Bulletin No. 9, “Basic Documents of the Spartacist League”
We combined the call for a Freedom Labor Party with agitation for a labor-based campaign to unionize the “open shop” South.
Fraser on the Civil Rights Movement
As the SWP began to move rightward in the mid-late 1950s, Richard Fraser often opposed the policies of the party leadership from the left, especially on the black question. Thus he strongly opposed the SWP’s periodic demand for the federal government to send troops to the South in order to defend black rights against state and local white-supremacist regimes and Klan terrorists. Fraser wrote in 1956 in “Contribution to the Discussion of the Slogan ‘Send Federal Troops to Mississippi’” (reprinted in Prometheus Research Series No. 3, “In Memoriam—Richard S. Fraser”):
“Under either Eisenhower or [Democratic presidential candidate] Stevenson, the most probable condition under which the Federal Government will send troops to the South will be that the Negroes hold the initiative in the struggle. As long as the white supremacists have the initiative and the lid of repression is clamped on tightly, the social equilibrium is not upset by a lynching or other terrorist actions. When the Negroes take the initiative it is a ‘race riot’ and the public security is threatened and an excellent reason is given for the government to intervene.
“When the Negroes hold the initiative it will be the function of the Federal army to restore law and order on the basis of the existing social system, and will involve severe repressions against the Negroes.”
A 1963 document by Fraser titled “Dialectics of Black Liberation” has recently been republished by the Freedom Socialist Party (FSP) in the 2004 book Revolutionary Integration: A Marxist Analysis of African American Liberation, which also includes a 1982 document by the FSP’s Tom Boot, “Revolutionary Integration: Yesterday and Today.” Fraser’s document is scathing in its denunciation of the SWP leadership’s kowtowing before the black misleaders of the day: “The concept of ‘self-determination,’ a revolutionary demand when used by the Bolsheviks, is denuded of all meaning and becomes a rationale for the SWP position that anyone who is leading at the moment is a good leader and a destined leader, regardless of program.” He aptly described the SWP leadership as having “raised tail-endism to a political principle.”
However, as the mass Southern civil rights movement acquired an increasingly militant character in the early 1960s, certain weaknesses in Fraser’s analysis came to the fore. Because he believed that a bourgeois-democratic reform of the Southern legal-political structure was not possible within the framework of American capitalism, he ascribed to the civil rights movement an intrinsically revolutionary dynamic. Thus his 1963 document begins with the statement: “The Black revolt in the southern U.S.A. stands objectively on the threshold of a new stage in its development: a stage of political organization for revolution, involving a showdown struggle against the southern police state and for a new democratic political system” (emphasis in original). Here a revolution in the South is given an essentially democratic content. The struggle of labor against capitalist exploitation receded into the background.
Along similar lines, Fraser no longer emphasized the necessary struggle for black leadership in the racially integrated organizations of the U.S. working class: the Leninist-Trotskyist vanguard party at the most advanced political level, the trade unions at the mass level. He now advocated, or at least endorsed, the idea of a separate “black vanguard party” as a transitional step in breaking black radicals from the Democratic Party:
“A Black vanguard party would furnish (a) a principled program, a rostrum, and an apparatus for independent Black candidates; (b) a graduate school for militants, specializing in political theory, the strategy of the struggle, and electioneering; and (c) an object lesson for the labor, peace and ‘progressive’ movements.”
Yet at the very same time, Fraser also advocated a Southern labor party, substantially the same programmatic demand that we expressed in our call for a Freedom Labor Party. He wrote in this regard: “A southern labor party is the only kind of organism which embodies the needs of class unity this side of socialism. Whatever it may be named, the construction of a political party serving the interests of Blacks and white workers is the next stage of development of the southern struggle.”
The FSP: Liberals with Attitude
The contradictions evident in Fraser’s 1963 document were carried into the formation of the Freedom Socialist Party. (As we noted in Part One, Fraser, who helped found the FSP in 1966, was cut off from the organization by a split the following year.) Under the leadership of the late Clara Fraser, these contradictions were resolved by openly repudiating the centrality of the struggle of labor against capital and embracing and glorifying various currents of petty-bourgeois radicalism—“people of color” ethnic politics, gay liberation lifestyle politics, and, above all, feminism.
As we have emphasized, a key aspect of revolutionary integrationism is that black workers, with their generally higher level of political consciousness, can and must lead the mass of white workers, mainly through the organizations of the labor movement. But Clara Fraser and her followers contemptuously wrote off white male workers as incorrigibly reactionary bigots. She declaimed in Freedom Socialist (December 1980): “Given the class-collaboration politics of the U.S. worker, the culture of bigotry and misogyny lock the privileged white males into a prison of conservative or slow reformism that has no exit” (emphasis added). She then went on that these “lackeys of the bosses” are “being swiftly replaced and ignored by the army of new worker militants from the ranks of women, youth, minorities and lesbian/gays.” Underlying this hostile contempt toward white male workers, which is shared by black nationalists (who extend their hostility to white women workers as well), is profound despair toward the prospects for a socialist revolution in the United States.
The FSP’s despairing attitude toward proletarian struggle and revolution is often masked by a fatuous triumphalism with regard to struggle by other oppressed social groups. In “Revolutionary Integration: Yesterday and Today,” written in the early years of Reagan reaction, the FSP’s Tom Boot exults: “And hearken to the dialectics of the sexual revolution: the vitality of the Black lesbian/gay sector is the catalyst for restoring the entire Black movement to the revolutionary path!” Such bombast might pass as bad vaudeville were it not pronounced just as the AIDS epidemic was ravaging the gay population, puncturing the last balloon of life-style radicalism.
The FSP abandoned and repudiated Richard Fraser’s understanding of the central importance of black oppression in maintaining the bourgeois order in the U.S. Thus Boot’s document denounced the Spartacist League for “an over-emphasis and unbalanced view of the importance of the Black worker. This simplistic approach to the race question in the U.S. writes off the revolutionary potential of the masses of non-white workers who are not Black.” In opposition to the FSP, we have always affirmed the revolutionary potential of all racial and ethnic components of the U.S. working class, including its white majority, while stressing the central importance of the struggle against black oppression in the fight for the American socialist revolution.
The FSP dissolves the black question into the fashionable notion of “people of color.” This notion obscures the ability of Latinos, especially lighter-skinned Latinos, and Asian Americans to move up toward the white end of the American racial-social spectrum through intermarriage and other mechanisms of social advancement. It also obscures the very significant class as well as racial and ethnic divisions among the various “peoples of color.” What does a third-generation Japanese American doctor really have in common with an undocumented Mexican immigrant farm worker? What does an Indian immigrant computer technician have in common with a black janitor who cleans the office building where the former is employed?
Just as the FSP abuses Richard Fraser’s concept of revolutionary integrationism, so it abuses Leon Trotsky’s concept of permanent revolution. Trotsky’s understanding was that in countries of belated capitalist development, the tasks historically associated with earlier bourgeois-democratic revolutions can only be achieved through proletarian seizure of power, which must be extended internationally, principally to the advanced capitalist countries. Boot’s document begins by pontificating that revolutionary integration “represents a continuous contemporary thread in the ideological fabric of international Permanent Revolution, the uninterruptible march of all the world’s oppressed, led by the working class, toward social, political and economic equality.” Permanent revolution is here presented as an all-powerful, transcendent (one might almost say God-like) force that will eventually bring about the triumph of all good things—democratic rights and freedoms, the eradication of all forms of social oppression, economic equality—the world over.
What Fraser said in 1963 of the SWP’s misuse of “self-determination” can be said of the FSP’s misuse of permanent revolution. It is denuded of all meaning and serves as a rationale for liberal reformist politics and fatuous enthusing over various petty-bourgeois radical currents. According to Boot, “The theory of Permanent Revolution, first formulated by Marx and later extended and enriched by Lenin and Trotsky, states in essence that the unfinished tasks of bourgeois democracy can only be completed by proletarian socialist revolution” (emphasis in original). In other words, the goal of proletarian revolution is to realize the principles of bourgeois democracy, which presumably represent the highest, most noble-minded aspirations of humanity.
Like most groups in the U.S. that call themselves socialist, the FSP appeals mainly to young liberal idealists. Socialism is thus presented not in terms of progressive working-class struggle against capitalist exploitation but rather as the expansion and consistent application of democratic principles. Abusing and trivializing the theory of permanent revolution, the FSP invests any and every liberal reform or demand—defense of legalized abortion, the legalization of same-sex marriage, amnesty for undocumented immigrants—with an anti-capitalist revolutionary content, dynamic or dialectic.
There’s nothing very new about this. In The State and Revolution (1917), Bolshevik leader V.I. Lenin explained how social democrats like Karl Kautsky distorted and vulgarized the ideas and doctrines of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in order to make them palatable to bourgeois liberals and petty-bourgeois democrats. The reformist left obscures the Marxist understanding of bourgeois “democracy” as simply a facade that covers the reality of the capitalist state as an instrument of organized force and violence—consisting at its core of the police, army, courts and prisons—for maintaining capitalist property and profits. It is the task of proletarian revolution to smash the bourgeois state and establish a workers state, laying the basis for the abolition of classes in an international communist world.
The Politics of Petty-Bourgeois Sectoralism
We describe the politics of the FSP as sectoralist. What does that mean? They begin from the premise that the basic actors on the U.S. left are separate movements of different oppressed social groups, based on gender (feminism), sexual orientation (gay liberation) or race and ethnicity (“people of color”). The FSP views itself as representing these diverse sectors, integrating and balancing their particular interests and demands. On a minute scale, the FSP offers a leftist version of traditional Democratic Party constituency politics.
The FSP’s sectoralism is clearly indicated by its fervent championing of affirmative action and “community control,” two programs promoted by the liberal wing of the U.S. bourgeoisie to divert and undermine unified working-class struggle against the capitalist class as a whole. In a section of his document attacking the Spartacist League, Boot contends that “the SL’s through-the-looking-glass approach to affirmative action condemns women and people of color to no improvement in their status until after the revolution” (emphasis in original).
Boot falsifies our position while underscoring the liberal reformist confines of the FSP’s own outlook and practice. FSP members know full well, as do all regular readers of Workers Vanguard, that we have actively and consistently defended affirmative action programs in higher education against the right-wing campaign (now largely successful) to dismantle them. In an advanced capitalist country like the U.S., access to higher education should be feasible for everyone who wants it. We call for nationalizing the private universities and for open admissions and free tuition with a state-paid living stipend for students. Such a program can be achieved only through massive and sustained struggle by a greatly strengthened labor movement in this country.
However, in opposition to the FSP, we do not identify affirmative action as the only or even main way to improve the conditions of blacks and other ethnic minorities and women short of a socialist revolution. Affirmative action is at best a limited gain enacted in response to the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. Its basic premise is that there is a fixed number of jobs or college placements and that these should be redivided in favor of different oppressed groups. Thus, particularly in the workplace, affirmative action has tended to pit black and other ethnic minorities and women against one another and against white males, fighting for a bigger slice of a shrinking pie instead of fighting together against the capitalist class for a bigger pie.
Our answer to mass unemployment in the black ghettos and Latino barrios, especially among youth, is a labor-based struggle for a shorter workweek with no loss in pay to increase the number of jobs available. We have also called for unions to direct special recruitment efforts toward black, Latino and women workers.
But the FSP, in the name of affirmative action, supports the efforts of the U.S. ruling class to further weaken the labor movement. Boot writes that the SL “tells anyone within earshot that affirmative action is a ruling-class plot, devised by the bosses as a union-busting tactic.” It is an incontestable fact that the capitalist government has used affirmative action when directed at unionized work forces in precisely that way. Most of the significant early affirmative action court suits and programs were set up under the Nixon administration in the late 1960s and early ’70s. A case in point was the Philadelphia Plan, an attempt to break the union hiring hall in the construction trades through setting quotas for jobs for minority workers. Such plans were especially effective in turning middle-class blacks and white liberals (and many radical leftists) against organized labor in the name of securing “racial justice.”
Two basic features of trade unions in the U.S. are the closed shop (all workers being required to join the union) and the seniority list (layoffs determined by date of hire). These two features are the first line of defense against arbitrary management decisions and the victimization of individual workers. Seniority agreements are often to the disadvantage of blacks and women, who are typically the last hired. In this sense, they are imperfect but they are, along with the closed shop, essential to defense of the union. When the government rips up seniority lists in the name of affirmative action, this is union-busting. The result is no union or a terribly weakened union, to the detriment of all workers.
Another aspect of the FSP’s reformist politics is its championing of “community control.” This slogan was originally popularized by 1960s radical black nationalists, notably the Black Panther Party. Soon, other more moderate forces embraced the slogan en route to Democratic Party machine politics to which the Panthers, too, soon found their way. In the aftermath of the ghetto rebellions of the 1960s, management of the inner-city black enclaves became a profitable career for ambitious black activists. The ghetto is treated as a permanently depressed fiefdom overseen by black operatives in the government bureaucracy.
In particular, the FSP raises the slogan of “community control” of the police in response to the murderous cop rampages in the ghettos and barrios. In “Escalating Police Violence Renews Demand for Elected Civilian Review Boards” (Freedom Socialist, October-December 2000), the FSP calls for civilian review boards “elected from the community, not ‘yes men’ or women appointed by city officials” (emphasis in original). Such boards should have “full authority to investigate police misconduct, subpoena witnesses, and order training, discipline, and firings.” While conceding that these agencies would not “eliminate cop depredations,” the FSP assures us that they “could certainly reduce police rampages” (emphasis in original). The FSP writes that “honest cops should welcome an independent review mechanism, because it’s the medicine necessary to start getting rid of the racist, sexist, and macho viruses that infect the force” (“Curb Police Brutality with Civilian Review Boards,” Freedom Socialist, July-September 1999). Thus the FSP informs us that “community”-based review boards would effect a benevolent moral transformation among the cops themselves—i.e., the very hired thugs of the capitalists whose job is to brutally repress labor and terrorize minorities—resulting in a kinder, gentler police force sensitive to the needs and interests of the oppressed.
Reading this nonsense one is reminded of the New Testament account of the conversion of St. Paul. Formerly a vicious and violent persecutor of Christians, one day on the road to Damascus he saw the light and was redeemed. Alas, the redemption of the members and cadre of the FSP for the cause of proletarian revolution will not be so easy.
Richard Fraser: In Memoriam
The distance separating ourselves from the FSP of Clara Fraser and her followers has long been unbridgeable. In contrast, in the last five or six years before his death in 1988, Dick Fraser moved ever closer to the Spartacist League. We still had differences and disagreements, which were honestly acknowledged and seriously discussed. But we were always happy to bend the stick in favor of the areas of profound political agreement between us.
During this period, Fraser provided invaluable advice, informed by decades of practical experience as well as Marxist understanding, concerning the organization and work of the LaboBlack Leagues, transitional organizations of the Spartacist League involved in day-to-day struggles against racial oppression and capitalist exploitation. Addressing the SL/U.S. Seventh National Conference in 1983 on the question of organizing the LaboBlack Leagues, he spoke movingly:
“I’ve had some discussions with many comrades, which have been very gratifying, and I am humbled by the knowledge that the things I wrote 30 years ago, which were so scorned by the old party, have had some important impact, finally.”
In particular, Fraser greatly appreciated our policy of initiating laboblack mobilizations to smash the Klan and Nazis whenever these fascist scum raised their heads in public, especially in cities with a large working-class and black population. Richard Fraser’s last political act before his death was his endorsement of the 5 November 1988 mobilization that stopped a Klan/Nazi provocation in Philadelphia.
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2017.07.23 19:17 FinnagainsAwake Revolutionary Integrationism: The Road to Black Freedom (Workers Vanguard) Part 2 of 2 (x-post /r/BlackLiberation)

https://archive.is/DClM4
Workers Vanguard No. 865 3 March 2006
The Legacy of Richard S. Fraser
Revolutionary Integrationism: The Road to Black Freedom
Black History and the Class Struggle
Part Two
Part One of this article, which we conclude below, appeared in WV No. 864 (17 February).
It is profoundly wrong to assume that what actually happened in the course of history had to happen, that no other divergent paths, including radically divergent paths, were possible. The Southern civil rights movement in the early-mid 1960s offered a rare and fleeting opportunity for even a relatively small revolutionary organization to win to its program and ranks the best of a generation of young black (and white) radicals experienced in mass, militant struggle against what was then called the “white power structure.” Had such a development taken place, the subsequent course of U.S. and therefore world history would have been radically different. It was not beyond the range of historical possibility that today we would be living in a socialist world.
In the U.S. at the time, the Socialist Workers Party (SWP) was the only organization with a credible revolutionary past and traditions and with, at least formally, an authentically revolutionary program based on Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky. However, by the early 1960s, ground down by the isolation and McCarthyite witchhunting of the 1950s, the SWP had lost its revolutionary bearings. The party’s qualitative departure from its erstwhile revolutionary working-class politics began around 1960, when it slid into the role of uncritical cheerleaders for the petty-bourgeois radical-nationalist leadership of the Cuban Revolution. The SWP thus abandoned the centrality of the working class and the necessity of building Trotskyist parties in every country.
The abandonment of the struggle for Marxist leadership of the black struggle in the U.S. was the domestic reflection of the SWP’s denial of the centrality of the proletariat in the destruction of capitalism. The “Freedom Now” resolution adopted at the SWP’s 1963 Convention codified a wholesale embrace of black nationalism and was accompanied by a policy of abstention from the Southern civil rights struggle. In the name of black “self-determination,” the SWP’s Militant became an unpaid public relations organ for all manner of black “leaders,” from the pacifistic liberal Martin Luther King to the reactionary nationalist Elijah Muhammad, head of the Nation of Islam.
The Spartacist tendency originated in the early 1960s as a left opposition, the Revolutionary Tendency (RT), in the SWP. A central axis of our political fight was for an active intervention into the Southern civil rights movement based on the perspective of revolutionary integrationism, i.e., linking the struggle for black democratic rights to working-class struggle against capitalist exploitation. At the 1963 SWP Convention, the RT presented a one-page amendment to the perspectives document arguing that the party should “expend significant material resources in overcoming our isolation from Southern struggles. In helping to build a revolutionary movement in the South, our forces should work directly with and through the developing left-wing formations in the movement there. A successful outcome to our action would lead to an historic breakthrough for the Trotskyist movement.”
After the leaders and many members of the RT were expelled in late 1963-early 1964, we sought, despite our small forces, to make the civil rights struggles, North as well as South, a main focus of our intervention into society. We raised the transitional demand for a Freedom Labor Party as a means of breaking young black militants from the capitalist Democratic Party in the direction of working-class politics. As we wrote in 1967:
“Only by the development of a working-class program and by explicitly opening the door to support by white workers can real political independence be maintained, real gains won and the basis laid for eventual working-class political unity. This unity will come about when the exploited section of the white South is driven into opposition and is compelled to forego color prejudice in order to struggle along class lines against its real enemies—the owners of land and industry.
“The creation of a South-wide Freedom Labor Party would serve as a tremendous impetus for similar action by Northern workers. The struggle for such a party would necessitate a rank-and-file revolt within the organized labor movement to overthrow the present labor bureaucracy.”
—“Black and Red—Class Struggle Road to Negro Freedom,” Spartacist Special Supplement, May-June 1967; reprinted in Marxist Bulletin No. 9, “Basic Documents of the Spartacist League”
We combined the call for a Freedom Labor Party with agitation for a labor-based campaign to unionize the “open shop” South.
Fraser on the Civil Rights Movement
As the SWP began to move rightward in the mid-late 1950s, Richard Fraser often opposed the policies of the party leadership from the left, especially on the black question. Thus he strongly opposed the SWP’s periodic demand for the federal government to send troops to the South in order to defend black rights against state and local white-supremacist regimes and Klan terrorists. Fraser wrote in 1956 in “Contribution to the Discussion of the Slogan ‘Send Federal Troops to Mississippi’” (reprinted in Prometheus Research Series No. 3, “In Memoriam—Richard S. Fraser”):
“Under either Eisenhower or [Democratic presidential candidate] Stevenson, the most probable condition under which the Federal Government will send troops to the South will be that the Negroes hold the initiative in the struggle. As long as the white supremacists have the initiative and the lid of repression is clamped on tightly, the social equilibrium is not upset by a lynching or other terrorist actions. When the Negroes take the initiative it is a ‘race riot’ and the public security is threatened and an excellent reason is given for the government to intervene.
“When the Negroes hold the initiative it will be the function of the Federal army to restore law and order on the basis of the existing social system, and will involve severe repressions against the Negroes.”
A 1963 document by Fraser titled “Dialectics of Black Liberation” has recently been republished by the Freedom Socialist Party (FSP) in the 2004 book Revolutionary Integration: A Marxist Analysis of African American Liberation, which also includes a 1982 document by the FSP’s Tom Boot, “Revolutionary Integration: Yesterday and Today.” Fraser’s document is scathing in its denunciation of the SWP leadership’s kowtowing before the black misleaders of the day: “The concept of ‘self-determination,’ a revolutionary demand when used by the Bolsheviks, is denuded of all meaning and becomes a rationale for the SWP position that anyone who is leading at the moment is a good leader and a destined leader, regardless of program.” He aptly described the SWP leadership as having “raised tail-endism to a political principle.”
However, as the mass Southern civil rights movement acquired an increasingly militant character in the early 1960s, certain weaknesses in Fraser’s analysis came to the fore. Because he believed that a bourgeois-democratic reform of the Southern legal-political structure was not possible within the framework of American capitalism, he ascribed to the civil rights movement an intrinsically revolutionary dynamic. Thus his 1963 document begins with the statement: “The Black revolt in the southern U.S.A. stands objectively on the threshold of a new stage in its development: a stage of political organization for revolution, involving a showdown struggle against the southern police state and for a new democratic political system” (emphasis in original). Here a revolution in the South is given an essentially democratic content. The struggle of labor against capitalist exploitation receded into the background.
Along similar lines, Fraser no longer emphasized the necessary struggle for black leadership in the racially integrated organizations of the U.S. working class: the Leninist-Trotskyist vanguard party at the most advanced political level, the trade unions at the mass level. He now advocated, or at least endorsed, the idea of a separate “black vanguard party” as a transitional step in breaking black radicals from the Democratic Party:
“A Black vanguard party would furnish (a) a principled program, a rostrum, and an apparatus for independent Black candidates; (b) a graduate school for militants, specializing in political theory, the strategy of the struggle, and electioneering; and (c) an object lesson for the labor, peace and ‘progressive’ movements.”
Yet at the very same time, Fraser also advocated a Southern labor party, substantially the same programmatic demand that we expressed in our call for a Freedom Labor Party. He wrote in this regard: “A southern labor party is the only kind of organism which embodies the needs of class unity this side of socialism. Whatever it may be named, the construction of a political party serving the interests of Blacks and white workers is the next stage of development of the southern struggle.”
The FSP: Liberals with Attitude
The contradictions evident in Fraser’s 1963 document were carried into the formation of the Freedom Socialist Party. (As we noted in Part One, Fraser, who helped found the FSP in 1966, was cut off from the organization by a split the following year.) Under the leadership of the late Clara Fraser, these contradictions were resolved by openly repudiating the centrality of the struggle of labor against capital and embracing and glorifying various currents of petty-bourgeois radicalism—“people of color” ethnic politics, gay liberation lifestyle politics, and, above all, feminism.
As we have emphasized, a key aspect of revolutionary integrationism is that black workers, with their generally higher level of political consciousness, can and must lead the mass of white workers, mainly through the organizations of the labor movement. But Clara Fraser and her followers contemptuously wrote off white male workers as incorrigibly reactionary bigots. She declaimed in Freedom Socialist (December 1980): “Given the class-collaboration politics of the U.S. worker, the culture of bigotry and misogyny lock the privileged white males into a prison of conservative or slow reformism that has no exit” (emphasis added). She then went on that these “lackeys of the bosses” are “being swiftly replaced and ignored by the army of new worker militants from the ranks of women, youth, minorities and lesbian/gays.” Underlying this hostile contempt toward white male workers, which is shared by black nationalists (who extend their hostility to white women workers as well), is profound despair toward the prospects for a socialist revolution in the United States.
The FSP’s despairing attitude toward proletarian struggle and revolution is often masked by a fatuous triumphalism with regard to struggle by other oppressed social groups. In “Revolutionary Integration: Yesterday and Today,” written in the early years of Reagan reaction, the FSP’s Tom Boot exults: “And hearken to the dialectics of the sexual revolution: the vitality of the Black lesbian/gay sector is the catalyst for restoring the entire Black movement to the revolutionary path!” Such bombast might pass as bad vaudeville were it not pronounced just as the AIDS epidemic was ravaging the gay population, puncturing the last balloon of life-style radicalism.
The FSP abandoned and repudiated Richard Fraser’s understanding of the central importance of black oppression in maintaining the bourgeois order in the U.S. Thus Boot’s document denounced the Spartacist League for “an over-emphasis and unbalanced view of the importance of the Black worker. This simplistic approach to the race question in the U.S. writes off the revolutionary potential of the masses of non-white workers who are not Black.” In opposition to the FSP, we have always affirmed the revolutionary potential of all racial and ethnic components of the U.S. working class, including its white majority, while stressing the central importance of the struggle against black oppression in the fight for the American socialist revolution.
The FSP dissolves the black question into the fashionable notion of “people of color.” This notion obscures the ability of Latinos, especially lighter-skinned Latinos, and Asian Americans to move up toward the white end of the American racial-social spectrum through intermarriage and other mechanisms of social advancement. It also obscures the very significant class as well as racial and ethnic divisions among the various “peoples of color.” What does a third-generation Japanese American doctor really have in common with an undocumented Mexican immigrant farm worker? What does an Indian immigrant computer technician have in common with a black janitor who cleans the office building where the former is employed?
Just as the FSP abuses Richard Fraser’s concept of revolutionary integrationism, so it abuses Leon Trotsky’s concept of permanent revolution. Trotsky’s understanding was that in countries of belated capitalist development, the tasks historically associated with earlier bourgeois-democratic revolutions can only be achieved through proletarian seizure of power, which must be extended internationally, principally to the advanced capitalist countries. Boot’s document begins by pontificating that revolutionary integration “represents a continuous contemporary thread in the ideological fabric of international Permanent Revolution, the uninterruptible march of all the world’s oppressed, led by the working class, toward social, political and economic equality.” Permanent revolution is here presented as an all-powerful, transcendent (one might almost say God-like) force that will eventually bring about the triumph of all good things—democratic rights and freedoms, the eradication of all forms of social oppression, economic equality—the world over.
What Fraser said in 1963 of the SWP’s misuse of “self-determination” can be said of the FSP’s misuse of permanent revolution. It is denuded of all meaning and serves as a rationale for liberal reformist politics and fatuous enthusing over various petty-bourgeois radical currents. According to Boot, “The theory of Permanent Revolution, first formulated by Marx and later extended and enriched by Lenin and Trotsky, states in essence that the unfinished tasks of bourgeois democracy can only be completed by proletarian socialist revolution” (emphasis in original). In other words, the goal of proletarian revolution is to realize the principles of bourgeois democracy, which presumably represent the highest, most noble-minded aspirations of humanity.
Like most groups in the U.S. that call themselves socialist, the FSP appeals mainly to young liberal idealists. Socialism is thus presented not in terms of progressive working-class struggle against capitalist exploitation but rather as the expansion and consistent application of democratic principles. Abusing and trivializing the theory of permanent revolution, the FSP invests any and every liberal reform or demand—defense of legalized abortion, the legalization of same-sex marriage, amnesty for undocumented immigrants—with an anti-capitalist revolutionary content, dynamic or dialectic.
There’s nothing very new about this. In The State and Revolution (1917), Bolshevik leader V.I. Lenin explained how social democrats like Karl Kautsky distorted and vulgarized the ideas and doctrines of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in order to make them palatable to bourgeois liberals and petty-bourgeois democrats. The reformist left obscures the Marxist understanding of bourgeois “democracy” as simply a facade that covers the reality of the capitalist state as an instrument of organized force and violence—consisting at its core of the police, army, courts and prisons—for maintaining capitalist property and profits. It is the task of proletarian revolution to smash the bourgeois state and establish a workers state, laying the basis for the abolition of classes in an international communist world.
The Politics of Petty-Bourgeois Sectoralism
We describe the politics of the FSP as sectoralist. What does that mean? They begin from the premise that the basic actors on the U.S. left are separate movements of different oppressed social groups, based on gender (feminism), sexual orientation (gay liberation) or race and ethnicity (“people of color”). The FSP views itself as representing these diverse sectors, integrating and balancing their particular interests and demands. On a minute scale, the FSP offers a leftist version of traditional Democratic Party constituency politics.
The FSP’s sectoralism is clearly indicated by its fervent championing of affirmative action and “community control,” two programs promoted by the liberal wing of the U.S. bourgeoisie to divert and undermine unified working-class struggle against the capitalist class as a whole. In a section of his document attacking the Spartacist League, Boot contends that “the SL’s through-the-looking-glass approach to affirmative action condemns women and people of color to no improvement in their status until after the revolution” (emphasis in original).
Boot falsifies our position while underscoring the liberal reformist confines of the FSP’s own outlook and practice. FSP members know full well, as do all regular readers of Workers Vanguard, that we have actively and consistently defended affirmative action programs in higher education against the right-wing campaign (now largely successful) to dismantle them. In an advanced capitalist country like the U.S., access to higher education should be feasible for everyone who wants it. We call for nationalizing the private universities and for open admissions and free tuition with a state-paid living stipend for students. Such a program can be achieved only through massive and sustained struggle by a greatly strengthened labor movement in this country.
However, in opposition to the FSP, we do not identify affirmative action as the only or even main way to improve the conditions of blacks and other ethnic minorities and women short of a socialist revolution. Affirmative action is at best a limited gain enacted in response to the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. Its basic premise is that there is a fixed number of jobs or college placements and that these should be redivided in favor of different oppressed groups. Thus, particularly in the workplace, affirmative action has tended to pit black and other ethnic minorities and women against one another and against white males, fighting for a bigger slice of a shrinking pie instead of fighting together against the capitalist class for a bigger pie.
Our answer to mass unemployment in the black ghettos and Latino barrios, especially among youth, is a labor-based struggle for a shorter workweek with no loss in pay to increase the number of jobs available. We have also called for unions to direct special recruitment efforts toward black, Latino and women workers.
But the FSP, in the name of affirmative action, supports the efforts of the U.S. ruling class to further weaken the labor movement. Boot writes that the SL “tells anyone within earshot that affirmative action is a ruling-class plot, devised by the bosses as a union-busting tactic.” It is an incontestable fact that the capitalist government has used affirmative action when directed at unionized work forces in precisely that way. Most of the significant early affirmative action court suits and programs were set up under the Nixon administration in the late 1960s and early ’70s. A case in point was the Philadelphia Plan, an attempt to break the union hiring hall in the construction trades through setting quotas for jobs for minority workers. Such plans were especially effective in turning middle-class blacks and white liberals (and many radical leftists) against organized labor in the name of securing “racial justice.”
Two basic features of trade unions in the U.S. are the closed shop (all workers being required to join the union) and the seniority list (layoffs determined by date of hire). These two features are the first line of defense against arbitrary management decisions and the victimization of individual workers. Seniority agreements are often to the disadvantage of blacks and women, who are typically the last hired. In this sense, they are imperfect but they are, along with the closed shop, essential to defense of the union. When the government rips up seniority lists in the name of affirmative action, this is union-busting. The result is no union or a terribly weakened union, to the detriment of all workers.
Another aspect of the FSP’s reformist politics is its championing of “community control.” This slogan was originally popularized by 1960s radical black nationalists, notably the Black Panther Party. Soon, other more moderate forces embraced the slogan en route to Democratic Party machine politics to which the Panthers, too, soon found their way. In the aftermath of the ghetto rebellions of the 1960s, management of the inner-city black enclaves became a profitable career for ambitious black activists. The ghetto is treated as a permanently depressed fiefdom overseen by black operatives in the government bureaucracy.
In particular, the FSP raises the slogan of “community control” of the police in response to the murderous cop rampages in the ghettos and barrios. In “Escalating Police Violence Renews Demand for Elected Civilian Review Boards” (Freedom Socialist, October-December 2000), the FSP calls for civilian review boards “elected from the community, not ‘yes men’ or women appointed by city officials” (emphasis in original). Such boards should have “full authority to investigate police misconduct, subpoena witnesses, and order training, discipline, and firings.” While conceding that these agencies would not “eliminate cop depredations,” the FSP assures us that they “could certainly reduce police rampages” (emphasis in original). The FSP writes that “honest cops should welcome an independent review mechanism, because it’s the medicine necessary to start getting rid of the racist, sexist, and macho viruses that infect the force” (“Curb Police Brutality with Civilian Review Boards,” Freedom Socialist, July-September 1999). Thus the FSP informs us that “community”-based review boards would effect a benevolent moral transformation among the cops themselves—i.e., the very hired thugs of the capitalists whose job is to brutally repress labor and terrorize minorities—resulting in a kinder, gentler police force sensitive to the needs and interests of the oppressed.
Reading this nonsense one is reminded of the New Testament account of the conversion of St. Paul. Formerly a vicious and violent persecutor of Christians, one day on the road to Damascus he saw the light and was redeemed. Alas, the redemption of the members and cadre of the FSP for the cause of proletarian revolution will not be so easy.
Richard Fraser: In Memoriam
The distance separating ourselves from the FSP of Clara Fraser and her followers has long been unbridgeable. In contrast, in the last five or six years before his death in 1988, Dick Fraser moved ever closer to the Spartacist League. We still had differences and disagreements, which were honestly acknowledged and seriously discussed. But we were always happy to bend the stick in favor of the areas of profound political agreement between us.
During this period, Fraser provided invaluable advice, informed by decades of practical experience as well as Marxist understanding, concerning the organization and work of the LaboBlack Leagues, transitional organizations of the Spartacist League involved in day-to-day struggles against racial oppression and capitalist exploitation. Addressing the SL/U.S. Seventh National Conference in 1983 on the question of organizing the LaboBlack Leagues, he spoke movingly:
“I’ve had some discussions with many comrades, which have been very gratifying, and I am humbled by the knowledge that the things I wrote 30 years ago, which were so scorned by the old party, have had some important impact, finally.”
In particular, Fraser greatly appreciated our policy of initiating laboblack mobilizations to smash the Klan and Nazis whenever these fascist scum raised their heads in public, especially in cities with a large working-class and black population. Richard Fraser’s last political act before his death was his endorsement of the 5 November 1988 mobilization that stopped a Klan/Nazi provocation in Philadelphia.
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2017.07.23 18:59 FinnagainsAwake Revolutionary Integrationism: The Road to Black Freedom (Workers Vanguard) Part 2 of 2

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Workers Vanguard No. 865 3 March 2006
The Legacy of Richard S. Fraser
Revolutionary Integrationism: The Road to Black Freedom
Black History and the Class Struggle
Part Two
Part One of this article, which we conclude below, appeared in WV No. 864 (17 February).
It is profoundly wrong to assume that what actually happened in the course of history had to happen, that no other divergent paths, including radically divergent paths, were possible. The Southern civil rights movement in the early-mid 1960s offered a rare and fleeting opportunity for even a relatively small revolutionary organization to win to its program and ranks the best of a generation of young black (and white) radicals experienced in mass, militant struggle against what was then called the “white power structure.” Had such a development taken place, the subsequent course of U.S. and therefore world history would have been radically different. It was not beyond the range of historical possibility that today we would be living in a socialist world.
In the U.S. at the time, the Socialist Workers Party (SWP) was the only organization with a credible revolutionary past and traditions and with, at least formally, an authentically revolutionary program based on Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky. However, by the early 1960s, ground down by the isolation and McCarthyite witchhunting of the 1950s, the SWP had lost its revolutionary bearings. The party’s qualitative departure from its erstwhile revolutionary working-class politics began around 1960, when it slid into the role of uncritical cheerleaders for the petty-bourgeois radical-nationalist leadership of the Cuban Revolution. The SWP thus abandoned the centrality of the working class and the necessity of building Trotskyist parties in every country.
The abandonment of the struggle for Marxist leadership of the black struggle in the U.S. was the domestic reflection of the SWP’s denial of the centrality of the proletariat in the destruction of capitalism. The “Freedom Now” resolution adopted at the SWP’s 1963 Convention codified a wholesale embrace of black nationalism and was accompanied by a policy of abstention from the Southern civil rights struggle. In the name of black “self-determination,” the SWP’s Militant became an unpaid public relations organ for all manner of black “leaders,” from the pacifistic liberal Martin Luther King to the reactionary nationalist Elijah Muhammad, head of the Nation of Islam.
The Spartacist tendency originated in the early 1960s as a left opposition, the Revolutionary Tendency (RT), in the SWP. A central axis of our political fight was for an active intervention into the Southern civil rights movement based on the perspective of revolutionary integrationism, i.e., linking the struggle for black democratic rights to working-class struggle against capitalist exploitation. At the 1963 SWP Convention, the RT presented a one-page amendment to the perspectives document arguing that the party should “expend significant material resources in overcoming our isolation from Southern struggles. In helping to build a revolutionary movement in the South, our forces should work directly with and through the developing left-wing formations in the movement there. A successful outcome to our action would lead to an historic breakthrough for the Trotskyist movement.”
After the leaders and many members of the RT were expelled in late 1963-early 1964, we sought, despite our small forces, to make the civil rights struggles, North as well as South, a main focus of our intervention into society. We raised the transitional demand for a Freedom Labor Party as a means of breaking young black militants from the capitalist Democratic Party in the direction of working-class politics. As we wrote in 1967:
“Only by the development of a working-class program and by explicitly opening the door to support by white workers can real political independence be maintained, real gains won and the basis laid for eventual working-class political unity. This unity will come about when the exploited section of the white South is driven into opposition and is compelled to forego color prejudice in order to struggle along class lines against its real enemies—the owners of land and industry.
“The creation of a South-wide Freedom Labor Party would serve as a tremendous impetus for similar action by Northern workers. The struggle for such a party would necessitate a rank-and-file revolt within the organized labor movement to overthrow the present labor bureaucracy.”
—“Black and Red—Class Struggle Road to Negro Freedom,” Spartacist Special Supplement, May-June 1967; reprinted in Marxist Bulletin No. 9, “Basic Documents of the Spartacist League”
We combined the call for a Freedom Labor Party with agitation for a labor-based campaign to unionize the “open shop” South.
Fraser on the Civil Rights Movement
As the SWP began to move rightward in the mid-late 1950s, Richard Fraser often opposed the policies of the party leadership from the left, especially on the black question. Thus he strongly opposed the SWP’s periodic demand for the federal government to send troops to the South in order to defend black rights against state and local white-supremacist regimes and Klan terrorists. Fraser wrote in 1956 in “Contribution to the Discussion of the Slogan ‘Send Federal Troops to Mississippi’” (reprinted in Prometheus Research Series No. 3, “In Memoriam—Richard S. Fraser”):
“Under either Eisenhower or [Democratic presidential candidate] Stevenson, the most probable condition under which the Federal Government will send troops to the South will be that the Negroes hold the initiative in the struggle. As long as the white supremacists have the initiative and the lid of repression is clamped on tightly, the social equilibrium is not upset by a lynching or other terrorist actions. When the Negroes take the initiative it is a ‘race riot’ and the public security is threatened and an excellent reason is given for the government to intervene.
“When the Negroes hold the initiative it will be the function of the Federal army to restore law and order on the basis of the existing social system, and will involve severe repressions against the Negroes.”
A 1963 document by Fraser titled “Dialectics of Black Liberation” has recently been republished by the Freedom Socialist Party (FSP) in the 2004 book Revolutionary Integration: A Marxist Analysis of African American Liberation, which also includes a 1982 document by the FSP’s Tom Boot, “Revolutionary Integration: Yesterday and Today.” Fraser’s document is scathing in its denunciation of the SWP leadership’s kowtowing before the black misleaders of the day: “The concept of ‘self-determination,’ a revolutionary demand when used by the Bolsheviks, is denuded of all meaning and becomes a rationale for the SWP position that anyone who is leading at the moment is a good leader and a destined leader, regardless of program.” He aptly described the SWP leadership as having “raised tail-endism to a political principle.”
However, as the mass Southern civil rights movement acquired an increasingly militant character in the early 1960s, certain weaknesses in Fraser’s analysis came to the fore. Because he believed that a bourgeois-democratic reform of the Southern legal-political structure was not possible within the framework of American capitalism, he ascribed to the civil rights movement an intrinsically revolutionary dynamic. Thus his 1963 document begins with the statement: “The Black revolt in the southern U.S.A. stands objectively on the threshold of a new stage in its development: a stage of political organization for revolution, involving a showdown struggle against the southern police state and for a new democratic political system” (emphasis in original). Here a revolution in the South is given an essentially democratic content. The struggle of labor against capitalist exploitation receded into the background.
Along similar lines, Fraser no longer emphasized the necessary struggle for black leadership in the racially integrated organizations of the U.S. working class: the Leninist-Trotskyist vanguard party at the most advanced political level, the trade unions at the mass level. He now advocated, or at least endorsed, the idea of a separate “black vanguard party” as a transitional step in breaking black radicals from the Democratic Party:
“A Black vanguard party would furnish (a) a principled program, a rostrum, and an apparatus for independent Black candidates; (b) a graduate school for militants, specializing in political theory, the strategy of the struggle, and electioneering; and (c) an object lesson for the labor, peace and ‘progressive’ movements.”
Yet at the very same time, Fraser also advocated a Southern labor party, substantially the same programmatic demand that we expressed in our call for a Freedom Labor Party. He wrote in this regard: “A southern labor party is the only kind of organism which embodies the needs of class unity this side of socialism. Whatever it may be named, the construction of a political party serving the interests of Blacks and white workers is the next stage of development of the southern struggle.”
The FSP: Liberals with Attitude
The contradictions evident in Fraser’s 1963 document were carried into the formation of the Freedom Socialist Party. (As we noted in Part One, Fraser, who helped found the FSP in 1966, was cut off from the organization by a split the following year.) Under the leadership of the late Clara Fraser, these contradictions were resolved by openly repudiating the centrality of the struggle of labor against capital and embracing and glorifying various currents of petty-bourgeois radicalism—“people of color” ethnic politics, gay liberation lifestyle politics, and, above all, feminism.
As we have emphasized, a key aspect of revolutionary integrationism is that black workers, with their generally higher level of political consciousness, can and must lead the mass of white workers, mainly through the organizations of the labor movement. But Clara Fraser and her followers contemptuously wrote off white male workers as incorrigibly reactionary bigots. She declaimed in Freedom Socialist (December 1980): “Given the class-collaboration politics of the U.S. worker, the culture of bigotry and misogyny lock the privileged white males into a prison of conservative or slow reformism that has no exit” (emphasis added). She then went on that these “lackeys of the bosses” are “being swiftly replaced and ignored by the army of new worker militants from the ranks of women, youth, minorities and lesbian/gays.” Underlying this hostile contempt toward white male workers, which is shared by black nationalists (who extend their hostility to white women workers as well), is profound despair toward the prospects for a socialist revolution in the United States.
The FSP’s despairing attitude toward proletarian struggle and revolution is often masked by a fatuous triumphalism with regard to struggle by other oppressed social groups. In “Revolutionary Integration: Yesterday and Today,” written in the early years of Reagan reaction, the FSP’s Tom Boot exults: “And hearken to the dialectics of the sexual revolution: the vitality of the Black lesbian/gay sector is the catalyst for restoring the entire Black movement to the revolutionary path!” Such bombast might pass as bad vaudeville were it not pronounced just as the AIDS epidemic was ravaging the gay population, puncturing the last balloon of life-style radicalism.
The FSP abandoned and repudiated Richard Fraser’s understanding of the central importance of black oppression in maintaining the bourgeois order in the U.S. Thus Boot’s document denounced the Spartacist League for “an over-emphasis and unbalanced view of the importance of the Black worker. This simplistic approach to the race question in the U.S. writes off the revolutionary potential of the masses of non-white workers who are not Black.” In opposition to the FSP, we have always affirmed the revolutionary potential of all racial and ethnic components of the U.S. working class, including its white majority, while stressing the central importance of the struggle against black oppression in the fight for the American socialist revolution.
The FSP dissolves the black question into the fashionable notion of “people of color.” This notion obscures the ability of Latinos, especially lighter-skinned Latinos, and Asian Americans to move up toward the white end of the American racial-social spectrum through intermarriage and other mechanisms of social advancement. It also obscures the very significant class as well as racial and ethnic divisions among the various “peoples of color.” What does a third-generation Japanese American doctor really have in common with an undocumented Mexican immigrant farm worker? What does an Indian immigrant computer technician have in common with a black janitor who cleans the office building where the former is employed?
Just as the FSP abuses Richard Fraser’s concept of revolutionary integrationism, so it abuses Leon Trotsky’s concept of permanent revolution. Trotsky’s understanding was that in countries of belated capitalist development, the tasks historically associated with earlier bourgeois-democratic revolutions can only be achieved through proletarian seizure of power, which must be extended internationally, principally to the advanced capitalist countries. Boot’s document begins by pontificating that revolutionary integration “represents a continuous contemporary thread in the ideological fabric of international Permanent Revolution, the uninterruptible march of all the world’s oppressed, led by the working class, toward social, political and economic equality.” Permanent revolution is here presented as an all-powerful, transcendent (one might almost say God-like) force that will eventually bring about the triumph of all good things—democratic rights and freedoms, the eradication of all forms of social oppression, economic equality—the world over.
What Fraser said in 1963 of the SWP’s misuse of “self-determination” can be said of the FSP’s misuse of permanent revolution. It is denuded of all meaning and serves as a rationale for liberal reformist politics and fatuous enthusing over various petty-bourgeois radical currents. According to Boot, “The theory of Permanent Revolution, first formulated by Marx and later extended and enriched by Lenin and Trotsky, states in essence that the unfinished tasks of bourgeois democracy can only be completed by proletarian socialist revolution” (emphasis in original). In other words, the goal of proletarian revolution is to realize the principles of bourgeois democracy, which presumably represent the highest, most noble-minded aspirations of humanity.
Like most groups in the U.S. that call themselves socialist, the FSP appeals mainly to young liberal idealists. Socialism is thus presented not in terms of progressive working-class struggle against capitalist exploitation but rather as the expansion and consistent application of democratic principles. Abusing and trivializing the theory of permanent revolution, the FSP invests any and every liberal reform or demand—defense of legalized abortion, the legalization of same-sex marriage, amnesty for undocumented immigrants—with an anti-capitalist revolutionary content, dynamic or dialectic.
There’s nothing very new about this. In The State and Revolution (1917), Bolshevik leader V.I. Lenin explained how social democrats like Karl Kautsky distorted and vulgarized the ideas and doctrines of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in order to make them palatable to bourgeois liberals and petty-bourgeois democrats. The reformist left obscures the Marxist understanding of bourgeois “democracy” as simply a facade that covers the reality of the capitalist state as an instrument of organized force and violence—consisting at its core of the police, army, courts and prisons—for maintaining capitalist property and profits. It is the task of proletarian revolution to smash the bourgeois state and establish a workers state, laying the basis for the abolition of classes in an international communist world.
The Politics of Petty-Bourgeois Sectoralism
We describe the politics of the FSP as sectoralist. What does that mean? They begin from the premise that the basic actors on the U.S. left are separate movements of different oppressed social groups, based on gender (feminism), sexual orientation (gay liberation) or race and ethnicity (“people of color”). The FSP views itself as representing these diverse sectors, integrating and balancing their particular interests and demands. On a minute scale, the FSP offers a leftist version of traditional Democratic Party constituency politics.
The FSP’s sectoralism is clearly indicated by its fervent championing of affirmative action and “community control,” two programs promoted by the liberal wing of the U.S. bourgeoisie to divert and undermine unified working-class struggle against the capitalist class as a whole. In a section of his document attacking the Spartacist League, Boot contends that “the SL’s through-the-looking-glass approach to affirmative action condemns women and people of color to no improvement in their status until after the revolution” (emphasis in original).
Boot falsifies our position while underscoring the liberal reformist confines of the FSP’s own outlook and practice. FSP members know full well, as do all regular readers of Workers Vanguard, that we have actively and consistently defended affirmative action programs in higher education against the right-wing campaign (now largely successful) to dismantle them. In an advanced capitalist country like the U.S., access to higher education should be feasible for everyone who wants it. We call for nationalizing the private universities and for open admissions and free tuition with a state-paid living stipend for students. Such a program can be achieved only through massive and sustained struggle by a greatly strengthened labor movement in this country.
However, in opposition to the FSP, we do not identify affirmative action as the only or even main way to improve the conditions of blacks and other ethnic minorities and women short of a socialist revolution. Affirmative action is at best a limited gain enacted in response to the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. Its basic premise is that there is a fixed number of jobs or college placements and that these should be redivided in favor of different oppressed groups. Thus, particularly in the workplace, affirmative action has tended to pit black and other ethnic minorities and women against one another and against white males, fighting for a bigger slice of a shrinking pie instead of fighting together against the capitalist class for a bigger pie.
Our answer to mass unemployment in the black ghettos and Latino barrios, especially among youth, is a labor-based struggle for a shorter workweek with no loss in pay to increase the number of jobs available. We have also called for unions to direct special recruitment efforts toward black, Latino and women workers.
But the FSP, in the name of affirmative action, supports the efforts of the U.S. ruling class to further weaken the labor movement. Boot writes that the SL “tells anyone within earshot that affirmative action is a ruling-class plot, devised by the bosses as a union-busting tactic.” It is an incontestable fact that the capitalist government has used affirmative action when directed at unionized work forces in precisely that way. Most of the significant early affirmative action court suits and programs were set up under the Nixon administration in the late 1960s and early ’70s. A case in point was the Philadelphia Plan, an attempt to break the union hiring hall in the construction trades through setting quotas for jobs for minority workers. Such plans were especially effective in turning middle-class blacks and white liberals (and many radical leftists) against organized labor in the name of securing “racial justice.”
Two basic features of trade unions in the U.S. are the closed shop (all workers being required to join the union) and the seniority list (layoffs determined by date of hire). These two features are the first line of defense against arbitrary management decisions and the victimization of individual workers. Seniority agreements are often to the disadvantage of blacks and women, who are typically the last hired. In this sense, they are imperfect but they are, along with the closed shop, essential to defense of the union. When the government rips up seniority lists in the name of affirmative action, this is union-busting. The result is no union or a terribly weakened union, to the detriment of all workers.
Another aspect of the FSP’s reformist politics is its championing of “community control.” This slogan was originally popularized by 1960s radical black nationalists, notably the Black Panther Party. Soon, other more moderate forces embraced the slogan en route to Democratic Party machine politics to which the Panthers, too, soon found their way. In the aftermath of the ghetto rebellions of the 1960s, management of the inner-city black enclaves became a profitable career for ambitious black activists. The ghetto is treated as a permanently depressed fiefdom overseen by black operatives in the government bureaucracy.
In particular, the FSP raises the slogan of “community control” of the police in response to the murderous cop rampages in the ghettos and barrios. In “Escalating Police Violence Renews Demand for Elected Civilian Review Boards” (Freedom Socialist, October-December 2000), the FSP calls for civilian review boards “elected from the community, not ‘yes men’ or women appointed by city officials” (emphasis in original). Such boards should have “full authority to investigate police misconduct, subpoena witnesses, and order training, discipline, and firings.” While conceding that these agencies would not “eliminate cop depredations,” the FSP assures us that they “could certainly reduce police rampages” (emphasis in original). The FSP writes that “honest cops should welcome an independent review mechanism, because it’s the medicine necessary to start getting rid of the racist, sexist, and macho viruses that infect the force” (“Curb Police Brutality with Civilian Review Boards,” Freedom Socialist, July-September 1999). Thus the FSP informs us that “community”-based review boards would effect a benevolent moral transformation among the cops themselves—i.e., the very hired thugs of the capitalists whose job is to brutally repress labor and terrorize minorities—resulting in a kinder, gentler police force sensitive to the needs and interests of the oppressed.
Reading this nonsense one is reminded of the New Testament account of the conversion of St. Paul. Formerly a vicious and violent persecutor of Christians, one day on the road to Damascus he saw the light and was redeemed. Alas, the redemption of the members and cadre of the FSP for the cause of proletarian revolution will not be so easy.
Richard Fraser: In Memoriam
The distance separating ourselves from the FSP of Clara Fraser and her followers has long been unbridgeable. In contrast, in the last five or six years before his death in 1988, Dick Fraser moved ever closer to the Spartacist League. We still had differences and disagreements, which were honestly acknowledged and seriously discussed. But we were always happy to bend the stick in favor of the areas of profound political agreement between us.
During this period, Fraser provided invaluable advice, informed by decades of practical experience as well as Marxist understanding, concerning the organization and work of the LaboBlack Leagues, transitional organizations of the Spartacist League involved in day-to-day struggles against racial oppression and capitalist exploitation. Addressing the SL/U.S. Seventh National Conference in 1983 on the question of organizing the LaboBlack Leagues, he spoke movingly:
“I’ve had some discussions with many comrades, which have been very gratifying, and I am humbled by the knowledge that the things I wrote 30 years ago, which were so scorned by the old party, have had some important impact, finally.”
In particular, Fraser greatly appreciated our policy of initiating laboblack mobilizations to smash the Klan and Nazis whenever these fascist scum raised their heads in public, especially in cities with a large working-class and black population. Richard Fraser’s last political act before his death was his endorsement of the 5 November 1988 mobilization that stopped a Klan/Nazi provocation in Philadelphia.
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